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4 MaskedSinger (talk) 07:31, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

4 what? Doug Weller talk 13:11, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry about it. lol. MaskedSinger (talk) 13:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your input on Talk:Israel at the 2024 Summer Olympics is full of personal attacks and assumptions of bad faith. Just from your latest post:

• "You've come to a page to which you have zero interest apart from the fact that it allows you to add anti-Israel content."
• obtuse
• passive aggressive
• "You have a staggering lack of self-awareness."

That is far from the first time. I don't like the idea of blocking you from the article and its talkpage, since there's a serious ongoing conflict which neither of you have had the sense to try to resolve by using dispute resolution (I have several times recommended Wikipedia:Third opinion as suitable for the conflict). But I will page-block you next time you insult Mhhossein, who has, as far as I can see, spoken civilly to you. Bishonen | tålk 19:04, 6 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

If it wasn't obvious by me confusing

WP:COI

I don't know all the ins and outs of Wikipedia. What do I know about dispute resolution?

I don't seek out disputes, I actually try to avoid them so my knowledge about resolving them via all the various protcols is less than zero.

I'm just someone who likes to edit things I'm passionate about.

For the record, they weren't attacks, but observations. MaskedSinger (talk) 19:57, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bishonen: Thanks for the intervention but it seems MaskedSinger still does not believe they have performed personal attacks; "For the record, they weren't attacks, but observations". --Mhhossein ^talk 16:49, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not necessary for you to point out things I can see for myself, Mhhossein, or, frankly, to post here right after Masked Singer has been warned. I wouldn't much blame them if they took it as a provocation. Bishonen | tålk 16:59, 7 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@MaskedSinger: No provocation was meant. I was offended multiple times and I have the right to show my objection. --Mhhossein ^talk 19:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Bishonen but it's cool :)

While the whole gang is here, I just read up about

WP:NPA

and things make a lot more sense! Sort of. Lol.

If there was a proud Red Sox fan making contentious

WP:NPOV

edits to pages related to the New York Yankees or a proud Real Madrid fan making contentious edits to pages related to Barcelona related pages, you don't think their personal background is relevant? You don't think Barcelona fans would bring up that this person is a proud Real Madrid supporter?

How is one meant to avoid making a personal attack when this is the whole issue at hand?

Whatever happened to

WP:COMMON

??

And let's say I was adding pro-Israel/anti Arab content to various Arab–Israeli conflict and Israeli–Palestinian conflict pages that didn't have to do with Israel and the editors there reverted my edits and told me where to go, that's on me for being a smartaleck.

I certainly wouldn't call them out for not being civil or their personal attacks. I would never dream of going to ANI.

I would have got what I deserved and if I was actually blocked that's fair and reasonable as I'm going out of my way to stir up controversy and conflict and anyone who deliberately tries to manufacture conflict where none exists deserves everything they get and then some.

But this is just me and what do I know? As has been demonstrated during all this - not much. MaskedSinger (talk) 17:16, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't express myself well so let me come up with a real life example.

Let's say all over my user page, I proudly proclaim my love for the San Francisco Giants - I edit the pages of past and present players, the ball park and everything to do with the team. I've never previously edited the page of Shohei Ohtani who plays for fierce rivals, the Los Angeles Dodgers and who now finds himself in a scandal. I add news about the scandal and controversy to the lede and then in further detail below. This gets up the nose of editors of the page who are Dodgers' fans who are protective of their player. Obviously I have a right to edit the page, but the optics aren't good, picking this moment as the first time I edit his page and not doing so to add something nice, but rather to add the scandal and controversy.

Have I done anything wrong?

I upset some of them and they are now guilty of

WP:NPA

. Their language is crude, but is their ire justified?

Am I trolling them? Who's to say. Undeterred, I push for

WP:CONSENSUS

.

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Interestingly enough, you have to look real hard on Ohtani's page to find mention of this controversy. MaskedSinger (talk) 19:53, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]