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If you reply to a comment on your page and put the reply on your page, not the page of the commentator, then you should go to the bottom of the commentator's talk page and put this Talkback Template there to let them know you said something about them . . . it gives them a hot link and a time stamp.

Thanks for all your work with classic music--treasures are waiting undiscovered for many. Jerry-VA (talk) 14:33, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware of that, however I still prefer to keep everything on one page. It makes conversations easier to follow, not just for those participating, but others reading as well. Also, please put new talk sections on the bottom, no matter which page you are on. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 16:56, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This has got to be the best edit summary I have seen in recent memory! JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 14:58, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Heh. ^_^ ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 16:56, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Before I've added the link to the wiki page, I've asked Max Keenlyside for permission:

Mail to Max Keenlyside, 1 March 2013: "Hello Max, Is it okay for you if I add a link to your sheet music to the Wikipedia page about the Silver Swan Rag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Swan_Rag)? Regards Rolf" Answer, 3 March 2013: "I'd be honoured - thanks! All the best, Max"

Do you need more information?

Vaslovag (talk) 09:09, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As I said, I couldn't find it on the website -- where is it? It's best to link to the webpage that hosts it instead of directly, as that way any issues of copyright are cleared up (in THIS case), AND it keeps in line with

Wikipedia:EL#Rich_media (granted a PDF isn't a huge deal, but in the case of ELs it's still better to be more universal). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 14:40, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply

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Obviously it's not on the website, but you can find the link to it on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy92VSkSTf4. So would you prefer to add an EL to Youtube? Vaslovag (talk) 20:33, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm.....I guess for now just use the direct link. Though perhaps asking on

WP:EL might be good....because a random email like that isn't nessesarily good for an EL. It IS good to have some link to the score, but again, there's no indication just by the EL it's ok. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 20:41, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply

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Thanks. I'm sure sooner or later Max will add a link to the website itself. Then we can update the entry. Vaslovag (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a good idea to revert edits by administrators as "vandalism". I am removing these media files because of complaints about the very poor quality; the media are made by a single singer multitracking all the parts, something which is virtually impossible to do to a high standard. The result is that there is a very strained quality to the upper parts, a lack of quality in the lower parts, and an overall amateurish production quality. Oh, and all of them were uploaded and linked by the performer himself. So he's using Wikipedia as a vanity project. He has never made any substantive improvements to content, all he's done is self-promotion. I sat back for some time but every single comment I have seen on a talk page about the quality of these recordings is unanimous: they are terrible. I agree. I have sung most of them in various choirs, I know how they should sound, and these recordings do not sound like they should.

There are some college choirs who are uploading much higher quality recordings, which is good. I would like to encourage my own choir (Reading Bach Choir) to do this but the effort and cost involved in making a proper studio recording is non-trivial. Guy (Help!) 13:04, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Precious and missed

A year ago, you were the 447th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Three years ago, you were recipient no. 447 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:58, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Six years now, and nice to have you back! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:40, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

... seven ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Are you kidding? Did you even read my edit summary? I didn't "modify the discussion", I reverted the closure because despite what you said it was pretty clear that there wasn't consensus to allow it...and why should it be closed anyway? Does it hurt anyone to let it die naturally? Just because you decided to close it doesn't give you power to stop anyone from disagreeing with you. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 21:33, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, In the past couple of days I have spent a considerable amount of my time trying ton contribute to a few pages relating to cello music (Elgar cello concerto, Saint Saens cello concerto n1, Vivaldi etc..) as I noticed important information was missing, particularly about a Brit Award   winning recording of Elgar's cello concerto by Julian Lloyd Webber with Yehudi Menuhin. I took the tutorial and referenced my contribution. However, the text I added was taken down. After contacting Wikipedia, they replied by saying you had reverted my text and video links. I would appreciate it if you could explain to me why, as the text was not opinionated and referenced and the videos were not copyrighted. Regards, Michela — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cocolinmichela (talk • contribs) 03:20, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Random YouTube links are not 'important information'. There's hundreds of performances of these works on video, there's nothing special about what you added, even though JLW may be more well known than most. I apologize about removing the info from the Elgar Concerto article as I assumed it like the other three. But your contributions make it seem as if you're pushing JLW for whatever reason, so please read up on

WP:Conflict of Interest if you're somehow related to him. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 06:11, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply

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Hello, I am an amateur cellist and therefore interested in cello works, performances etc. If you think a Brit Award is not important information I don't honestly know what is! The 1985 recording of the Elgar, conducted by Sir Yehudi Menuhin (who had previously recorded the violin concerto with Elgar himself) was awarded a Brit Award for best classical recording and is still considered by Geamophone as "the finest ever" and IMO cannot be omitted from a Wiki page. The text I added was unopinionated. I also don't think Lloyd Webber needs any "pushing", his reputation is well established. I noticed that Steven Isserlis is mentioned in several cello concerto pages but not because of this I would dare to take the mentions down nor think he's being promoted. All the great cellists' achievements deserve to be mentioned. Wiki is a free encyclopaedia and therefore anyone should be allowed to add relevant information. The You Tube links were not "random" but an extract from the piece of music discussed on the page. Regards, Michela — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cocolinmichela (talk • contribs)

The link of the Sains-Saens concerto page was a

copyright violation being ripped from a CD. There's also no idndication the Haydn one is legal either. Both were also made into refs, which YouTube videos can't be outside of special situations. The one on the Vivaldi page was very misplaced -- can you imagine if everyone put a link to a random Vivaldi piece many ELs there would be? Again, the info on the Elgar concerto page was probably fine, so go ahead and re-add it if you wish. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 13:31, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply

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I see, ok, thanks, will put the text on the Elgar page, as that's what I think is the most important piece of information missing. I won't add any links or reference, just a couple of sentences in the text, mentioning the award winning recording. Please don't take it down thus time! Regards, Michela — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cocolinmichela (talk • contribs) 13:45, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I happened to visit the Elgar Cello page and noticed that, once again, my contribution has disappeared...have you removed it, please? I was confident we had agreed to leave it as it was unopinionated, referenced, etc. I wanted to add the YouTube link to a video of the award ceremony related to the Elgar recording as well but wonder whether that would be taken down too. Regards, Michela — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cocolinmichela (talk • contribs) 12:19, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not going to answer that. You figured out who removed the info before, you can do it again. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 13:35, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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• that Louisa Venable Kyle wrote a children's book on The Witch of Pungo ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm hoping you remember where you got the claim that his original was found, as you did way back in 2009, not only for the sake of Wikipedia but so I can see the score myself.--Jasper Deng (talk) 09:20, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt you'll be able to see the score yourself, but it was recorded on this disc (check the notes on the recording). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 13:31, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I was able to obtain the sound for free via my school, his orchestration sounds better than Kay's reconstruction!--Jasper Deng (talk) 00:24, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, Melodia. We don't have a relationship yet, and I feel we got off on the wrong foot. I reacted poorly to your harsh criticism and was passive aggressive in my retort. So, I apologize, and I have edited the talk page accordingly. I would much rather us work together, as fellow classical music devotees, to form a consensus on our various ideas. Indeed, I have, in my isolation, been mulling over a few for some time now (mainly, a sortable table ala what GerdaArendt did for Nielsen, but with a few alterations to better suit the needs of Sibelius). Let's get a dialogue going rather than recrimination. Hope this message finds you well.

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Ironically (or perhaps not) before I went semi-retired on here (as they call it) I was pondering doing the same for Sibelius. I'm pretty lazy though so never really did anything substantial. That said I do appreciate those who work on List of Compositions articles as it's a huge interest of mine -- I actually have over 60 of them (even excluding composers with multiples and almost every major composer) watchlisted. So I'm honestly really curious what other composers actually DO include first performance info as I can't say I've seen it otherwise, nor does a casual look through a bunch of them find any. The argument that "many do not have their pages" is EXACTLY the sort of argument that breeds cruftiness, which I still posit is inherent in the info. I've said it before occasionally -- if it were a popular subject (say, video games or movies) you can believe that there would be enough eyes that such things would be shot down quite quickly. I'll grant the comment I was responding to was actually about the solists (which even more so doesn't belong on the workslist). Also, the "scholarly sources" that have the performance info tend to be MUCH more comprehensive than a Wikipedia article (usually full books) and really cannot be compared. We also don't list incipits, full instrumentation info (for large ensemble works) or names of movements of singular works despite those being much more important to the music itself. Again, fantastic info for works with separate pages, not so much for a general overview of the compositions. As for the table itself, I'd change stuff around a bit -- the big one is putting Op. and JS in the same column since except in two cases (one of which is technically made up) they are mutually exclusive, and putting said column first -- and again, kill the first performance column. Also the general instrumentation should be added (orchestra, violin and piano, etc) with 'genre' for the more general type of composition (since Dvorak's list for a good example). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 06:31, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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This is still ongoing. My initial DRN request was ignored by the editor who seems adamantly opposed to any change to the article, and died on the vine. An RfC hasn't attracted any additional outside opinions. The opposing editor (who's been blocked 9 times for edit warring and disruptive editing) is trying to straw-man the argument to death and is ignoring the secondary sources he demanded early on. The page is locked, but that ends tomorrow. What next? Open a new DRN? I'm a writer and editor by trade in real life, but inexperienced with dealing with this sort of thing on Wikipedia. Thanks. Dharmabumstead (talk) 19:57, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Melodia! Say, how do we get an Admin to undo the mess those other two did? We need to get the Edit History back for all three pages (List, List by opus, List by genre), so this mess can be undone, and do it right this time. I have some backups in my sandbox and offline, but they're updates, not a full page, but even if we restore it, the edit histories need to be restored and I don't know how to do that. Who can we call?...

See my posting on Talk:List of compositions by Johannes Brahms for details on what happened.
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Please remove the

No. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 12:30, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A few months ago you launched a similar attack on another editor ([2]). Blanket statements where you reproach other editors that they "want" or "are trying" to "ruin" that page are poor contributions to a content discussion; furthermore, while the two editors on whom you commented with a fairly identical "ruin" accusation seem to have opposing views on the content it seems, to say the least, that both of your "ruin" comments cancel each other out, and are therefore little more than a non-contribution to the exchange of ideas. I'd recommend to adhere to the policy quoted above ("Comment on content, not on the contributor") if you want others to take your comments into account. Thanks. --Francis Schonken (talk) 14:39, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Melodia, many thanks for your page move revert of this article. I'm not sure if you had a look at the article itself, but it seems to me really quite problematic. Firstly it's extremely long (164 kbytes). It contains detailed descriptions of over 100 themes in the music, nearly all uncited. Much of the other material is also uncited. There's unusual markup, with extensive use of underscore for headings, not to mention bold italic with quotation marks for the names of themes. Oh, and there are images of five CDs, amazing they haven't been deleted as abuses of fair use; each of them with full track listings.

The main editor is basically an SPA, having done little except edit this article, along with

Anyway, it's be good to know what you think. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly I dunno. As far as LOTR goes, much of the stuff does seem to not be original research, but rather taken from either the annotated notes to the expanded OSTs (PDFs linked at the bottom of the page) or the book about the scores. Actually looking at it more I'd wager it's, if not plagiarized from those sources, at the least pretty much lifted from them. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 05:17, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, probable copyvio. I'll see if I can prove that. Many thanks, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:27, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

Eight years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda, another Darth Tyrannus spam below (important). El_C 13:12, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quite, and thanks for this. I was a little surprised to see someone with exactly two edits to their name ... and their latest was to begin to censor the encyclopaedia. I suppose I should admire their firmness of purpose and self-confidence, etc, but. Hmmm. I am not myself a massive fan of those words but I think I may have stumbled over some policy on this a decade or two ago ... cheers DBaK (talk) 08:21, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeesh. Even more reason the page should be semi'd. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 12:24, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy of El_C, there'll be 3 months of respite at least. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 13:03, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Volteer1: When I first came to you, I was but the learner. Now I am a fucking dinosaur in Star Wars. Darth Tyrannus. El_C 13:08, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Melodia, my dear friend, respectable registered User among us, know a lot about music, of all people it had to be you to raise questions and issues about my contribution. I did not do that for me. I did that for you man, for people like you. Every piece of information about her songs has been gathered in a single place man: Wikipedia. You won't find what you are looking for anywhere else. I did what I did because I wanted you to like it. It's my present for you man. And the best man, the very best, is that people like you are going to help me better that article, discuss the situation with me, enjoy our time together like old friends from distant countrys who work together to make this a much better place with more to offer, in a single place, I and haven't yet started man. That thing is now under Peer Review (we're here long enough to know that half-a-dozen of 3 or 4 (this is an expression in my language that means "only a small group") can't take hold of a field of the human knowledge. Everything you see there now, that you did before, is still there because her songs have the same tecnical issues like always before. Ritournelle bears the same title (there's no flute concertino, only Concertino, and its opus number is not a disambiguator, it just seemed the proper way once concertino leads the readers to another article! The designation of this concertino, if for flute, cello, viola, organ, whatever, is not part of the title, just the way that an opus number isn't part of the title either. You know, one thing is one thing, another thing is another thing (it's not stranger to call myself a "Gnome". I am smiling man, in joy, no anger, just amazed, in awe, because, as I said, of all people, you had to have come to my talk page, talked to me, get to know me better (I left wikipedia years ago. Father I have become! Since then it has just been for fun) and discuss what is bothering you there man. I think you are envious (in lack of a better word). That's why I said: You're much better than that man. Don't raise issues for nothing. You said: "a major work last night". No, I guess it is a "little bit more" than that. Hmmmmmm... I see now ! You're like this because I said in my essay on the talk page: two guys... oh....... go to Cristobal Oudrid talk page and see what happened there. I did that for Rose and Doctor Blofeld, because I like them no matter what. Don't make me say it man: C'mon, cheer up ! I know you can turn what I did into something even better for eveybody ! Don't disappoint me ! Let's work together, we have more to do. Krenakarore ^TK 18:03, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can you rewrite that in comprehensible English? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 22:37, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

Nine years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Howdy - I saw your revert of my edit, and I see also the

The reasoning is still the same (and perhaps, 15 years later, even more potent). It's not even about the fact there are other silent works (though that's certainly another factor) but like I said all those years ago, it's a very well known work. There's really a ton of articles that shouldn't be on the list(s) that are there (2005 United States Grand Prix for instance...about as 'usual' as it gets, it just happens that something weird happened during it). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 04:54, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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