User talk:Mkativerata/Archive16
Francis Harrington Glidden
Hi. I see from [1] that the page Francis Harrington Glidden was speedily deleted; presumably as part of the User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) copyright drama. I'm guessing it was first changed to a redirect to Glidden (paints); and then, when that article was deleted for copyright reasons, the redirect was deleted, too.
Yesterday, I wrote Francis Harrington Glidden from scratch. I would like to see if the prior article has usable material that I could reuse for the rewritten article, while being mindful of copyright issues. Can you userfy that article (without destroying the new article, of course) to my userspace so I can examine it and reuse/rewrite material as appropriate? Thanks. TJRC (talk) 21:28, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
- Sure. I've just restored the history. I was thinking of userfying it but upon review the the article was so short the chance of it being a copyvio is pretty low so I think the history can remain. As you can see, the stub was converted into a redirect in 2009 and then (quite unthinkingly) deleted by me as a redirect to nowhere when the target article got deleted. --Mkativerata (talk) 06:37, 1 December 2011 (UTC)]
Australian Chief Justices & Puisine Justices
Why have you left some with GG as appointer & others with Monarch as appointer? GoodDay (talk) 08:43, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- I've only done a few - a bit short of time today. --Mkativerata (talk) 08:51, 1 December 2011 (UTC)]
There, I removed the 'monarchs' from the Chief Justice infoboxes & the 'monarchs' & 'governors-general' from infoboxes. When you've figured out all the GGs for them, then put'em in - not just a tiny few. GoodDay (talk) 07:45, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
It seems you get the last laugh on me - see Chief Justice of Canada. -- GoodDay (talk) 08:19, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks - I think removing them is a good idea for now. I'm not at all confident we could get all of them right. And thanks for picking up on the much bigger issue in the first place: that we had the PM appointing them all! --Mkativerata (talk) 08:29, 3 December 2011 (UTC)]
Hi Mkativerata. It appears that you were not notified of Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 November 24#Jessie Stricchiola, which is due for closure in about 11 hours. I think any comments you might have about the post-close comment by Dannysullivan (talk · contribs) and the source analysis by S Marshall (talk · contribs) and Hobit (talk · contribs) will be helpful to the DRV closer. Best, Cunard (talk) 09:37, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Cunard. I had seen this one but just didn't feel I had anything worthwhile to say. --Mkativerata (talk) 09:38, 1 December 2011 (UTC)]
- Okay. Thank you for providing a detailed rationale for your close. I dislike when some admins do not. I participated in neither Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aubrey Wentworth nor Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 November 16#Aubrey Wentworth. As a neutral editor, I asked One (talk · contribs) to provide a rationale. He has since edited and has ignored requests from myself, Flatscan (talk · contribs), and DRV closer King of Hearts (talk · contribs). There are too few admins such as yourself who are willing to explain their closes. Cunard (talk) 09:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks -- you'll see I stuck the boot in in the Wentworth DRV myself. Of course, the irony is that when you give an explanation, it gives editors something to pick at :) Still, better than nothing. --Mkativerata (talk) 09:52, 1 December 2011 (UTC)]
- I noticed your comment and agree that it is a lazy close. One (talk · contribs) made two comments at the DRV, neither of which explained his close. His continued refusal to provide a closing rationale is disrespectful to the community.
A rationale is better than none because editors can at least know that the closing admin didn't just count the votes. I agree though that miswording a closing rationale can be a recipe for calls of a supervote. Having reviewed your close, I believe it is well-worded to avoid controversy and is a valid assessment of the AfD. However, I will avoid participating in the DRV owing to the voluminous outside attention it has received. Cunard (talk) 10:00, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't manage to put a proper close in as requested because my life has been remarkably busy, and I didn't exactly have a lot of time as of late to place myself down in front of the computer and write one. I wholeheartedly - and seriously - apologize for not doing so, but you're welcome to beat up on me as much as you'd like for this error. Since I'm lazy and a jerk and everything, I'll just quit wasting everyone's time here. One two three... 12:21, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for the explanation. My message to you was on 22 November 2011, nine days ago. It is fine if you did not have the time then to provide a closing rationale. I expected you to reply on your talk page that you would do so when you had more time. Your lack of response to my request indicated that you were ignoring it.
When you have the time, please provide a closing rationale for the AfD. Cunard (talk) 17:33, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for the explanation. My message to you was on 22 November 2011, nine days ago. It is fine if you did not have the time then to provide a closing rationale. I expected you to reply on your talk page that you would do so when you had more time. Your lack of response to my request indicated that you were ignoring it.
- I didn't manage to put a proper close in as requested because my life has been remarkably busy, and I didn't exactly have a lot of time as of late to place myself down in front of the computer and write one. I wholeheartedly - and seriously - apologize for not doing so, but you're welcome to beat up on me as much as you'd like for this error. Since I'm lazy and a jerk and everything, I'll just quit wasting everyone's time here. One two three... 12:21, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- I noticed your comment and agree that it is a lazy close. One (talk · contribs) made two comments at the DRV, neither of which explained his close. His continued refusal to provide a closing rationale is disrespectful to the community.
- Thanks -- you'll see I stuck the boot in in the Wentworth DRV myself. Of course, the irony is that when you give an explanation, it gives editors something to pick at :) Still, better than nothing. --
- Okay. Thank you for providing a detailed rationale for your close. I dislike when some admins do not. I participated in neither Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aubrey Wentworth nor Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 November 16#Aubrey Wentworth. As a neutral editor, I asked One (talk · contribs) to provide a rationale. He has since edited and has ignored requests from myself, Flatscan (talk · contribs), and DRV closer King of Hearts (talk · contribs). There are too few admins such as yourself who are willing to explain their closes. Cunard (talk) 09:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Talkback
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about bringing back the draft in the main space Codrin.B (talk) 23:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- The article is ready for main space. Please move/transfer the work history on the draft as well, if possible. Thanks!--Codrin.B (talk) 16:34, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've just had a quick look and I think I need a bit of a deeper look, which I might not have time to do for a day or so. --Mkativerata (talk) 19:35, 11 December 2011 (UTC)]
- No rush.--Codrin.B (talk) 20:10, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Can you move all history of changes automatically, instead of copy paste? There were many people who worked on salvaging the draft --Codrin.B (talk) 23:26, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm... that would involve moving a history with copyvios into the mainspace. It might be ok in this case, but I'll think on it. --Mkativerata (talk) 01:28, 18 December 2011 (UTC)]
- Hmm... that would involve moving a history with copyvios into the mainspace. It might be ok in this case, but I'll think on it. --
- Can you move all history of changes automatically, instead of copy paste? There were many people who worked on salvaging the draft --Codrin.B (talk) 23:26, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
- No rush.--Codrin.B (talk) 20:10, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've just had a quick look and I think I need a bit of a deeper look, which I might not have time to do for a day or so. --
Grant Dunlop
Hey jackass. Why did you delete the 'Grant Dunlop' wikipedia page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raelini (talk • contribs) 00:57, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
- I deleted it because five editors unanimously agreed to the deletion over the course of a seven-day discussion Mkativerata (talk) 07:51, 13 December 2011 (UTC)]
RFA thank you
Thank you for your support at my recent successful RFA and for your support in the past. Being now the new fellow in the fraternity of administrators, I will do my best to live up to the confidence shown in me by others, will move slowly and carefully when using the mop, will seek input from others before any action of which I might be unsure, and will try not to break anything beyond repair. Best, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 21:03, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
As soon as he was unblocked for disruptive editing - he was at it again, making clearly improperly sourced claims about Rick Santorum and Opus Dei - which were absolutely not borne out by the cites furnished (just as before). Might a verbum sapiens from you prevent further disruptive and unsourced claims therein? Cheers. Collect (talk) 13:10, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Coming off a block and diving straight into old battles is, as I'm sure you know, usually a swift way to a much longer block, 3RR or not. Happy for you to link to this as essentially a warning. I'll put Rick on my watchlist. I don't normally take administrative action (especially blocks) in response to requests on my talk page so watchlisting it will allow me to act on my own volition, at least when I'm online. --Mkativerata (talk) 19:09, 5 December 2011 (UTC)]
- Merci. Collect (talk) 20:24, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- He is at it in full force and vigor (4RR in 17 hurs) - and his edit summary of "(untrue; the information is sourced; there are 2 refs there - and either way, it is against protocol to just delete info when a simple citation needed will do" [2] seems to indicate true obstinacy now. And his prior revert at [3] with the summary of " Linkrot, time article doesn't verify, and your edit summary (for first edit) certainly doesn't explain anything", and then [4] "I can't believe Collect has been on wikipedia this many years and still gets away with abusing and misreading the BLP policies ; it's sad really". 3RR in a matter of 43 minutes! 4RR in 17 hours. Seems that your attention is needed for sure. Thanks. Collect (talk) 02:22, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, had I been online 7 hours ago I might have done something. But since then it seems (and I haven't looked at it in detail as I'm very short on time now) that the edit-war has stopped and it's being hashed out on the talk page. If I'm wrong on this (may well be, haven't had much time), please don't hesitate to report to AN3. --Mkativerata (talk) 08:43, 6 December 2011 (UTC)]
- Sorry, had I been online 7 hours ago I might have done something. But since then it seems (and I haven't looked at it in detail as I'm very short on time now) that the edit-war has stopped and it's being hashed out on the talk page. If I'm wrong on this (may well be, haven't had much time), please don't hesitate to report to AN3. --
- He is at it in full force and vigor (4RR in 17 hurs) - and his edit summary of "(untrue; the information is sourced; there are 2 refs there - and either way, it is against protocol to just delete info when a simple citation needed will do" [2] seems to indicate true obstinacy now. And his prior revert at [3] with the summary of " Linkrot, time article doesn't verify, and your edit summary (for first edit) certainly doesn't explain anything", and then [4] "I can't believe Collect has been on wikipedia this many years and still gets away with abusing and misreading the BLP policies ; it's sad really". 3RR in a matter of 43 minutes! 4RR in 17 hours. Seems that your attention is needed for sure. Thanks. Collect (talk) 02:22, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
- Merci. Collect (talk) 20:24, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
I think you might profitably gaze at Talk:Rick Santorum including
- [5] where he calls editors who follow WP:BLP "losers",
- [6] where he asks "Why is Tarc being allowed to call well-researched information bullshit?",
- [7] (to Tarc) "You are over-complicating and warring because you believe adding facts = political smearing. That my friend, is not right, and it is a blatant abuse of wikipedia. I ask that you discontinue your editwarring on this because you are too emotionally invested to allow a fair exchange of information right now."
- And the last straw indicating he has no clue as to what WP:BLP means yet: [8]" I would ask Collect and Tarc to stop being bitter losers and apologize for having me blocked - because they could not accept a productive discussion. I don't expect either of them to have the balls to do the right thing, which is a simple "I'm sorry". "
- Oh -- for lagniappe: [9] (to Tarc) "You are a terrible liar. You and I both know that your only goal was to eliminate any discussion on this. ... You said WP:NOTCENSORED does not apply here, which is blatantly false - and your buddy Collect brainlessly backed you up on that - just because he hates me whenever I'm right. And you called the entire discussion "bullshit: and deleted it again and again, first saying it was NPOV and then UNDUE, and you attacked the references, and now, you still don't have the balls to own up to the fact that your shifty, unmoving arguments were wrong and this was indeed a newsworthy and well-researched bit of information on Santorum. " (please note the juicy bits are all from SB23).
In short he is not only unrepentant about his
- I think this would need to go to a noticeboard if action is to be taken. I don't think I'm in a position to take action myself. That's because I had seen the exchange from my watchlist before you posted here and I chose not to do anything, largely because (a) I know Tarc can give as good as he gets and he did so here, shutting him up in a much more effective way than a block or a "I'm a big man listen to me" admin warning; and (b) more importantly, despite all the venting, the article dispute is actually over. So if I were to block or warn Screwball, having looked at it after your prompting, it would justifiably be claimed that I was procured by you to do so. Sorry I know that's probably irritatingly unhelpful. --Mkativerata (talk) 19:13, 8 December 2011 (UTC)]
Thank you..
... for being the first to support my mad scheme to make sure that AFD doesn't collapse under the pressure of falling participation...
- Not a problem. I've always been meaning to write an essay Mkativerata (talk) 19:31, 7 December 2011 (UTC)]
- I have been thinking about how we can improve AFD for a while and I do think that getting direct feedback on what arguments counted and what didn't weill help users understand how to make their votes count more. A nice side outcome is that we will all tend to react to how other admins act and this will pull closing standards closer together and reduce the amount of inconsistency - hopefully! Spartaz Humbug! 19:44, 7 December 2011 (UTC)]
- I have been thinking about how we can improve AFD for a while and I do think that getting direct feedback on what arguments counted and what didn't weill help users understand how to make their votes count more. A nice side outcome is that we will all tend to react to how other admins act and this will pull closing standards closer together and reduce the amount of inconsistency - hopefully!
close paraphrase
Repetition of technical descriptions of sub-sentence size is normal in scholarly writing and is not plagiarism if cited properly. Actually it is encouraged for precision, to prevent the Chinese whispers phenomenon. Also, WP:Close paraphrasing is not policy but just an essay with problems, but even then you are ignoring the legal background that only substantial close paraphrase is a copyright violation. Zerotalk 08:11, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- It's not just the technical matter of copyright violations we have to worry about, it's plagiarism. Copying a half-sentence, even with attribution by citation, is not ok even if it wouldn't break the law. And in this case, it wasn't an isolated half-sentence, it was multiple half and full sentences cobbled together. --Mkativerata (talk) 08:58, 10 December 2011 (UTC)]
ANI Notice
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --NellieBly (talk) 10:14, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- I am the idiot who listed you there. I am sorry. You must be quite upset at me. Looking at it again, I don’t understand myself why I mistook you for a bad faith editor. I’ll try to pay better attention before dishing out false accusations again. Wikipeditor (talk) 16:48, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- No worries. When I saw it I figured you'd just made an honest mistake somewhere. :) --Mkativerata (talk) 19:12, 12 December 2011 (UTC)]
- Great, thanks. Have a nice week! Wikipeditor (talk) 21:06, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- No worries. When I saw it I figured you'd just made an honest mistake somewhere. :) --
A cup of coffee for you!
Time to relax with a coffee after all your hard work on Adolf Hitler! Your efforts have helped embiggen the wiki. Cheers, Dianna (talk) 06:26, 16 December 2011 (UTC) |
- Thanks Dianna, it was a pleasure to have the opportunity to review this one. Thanks for all your hard work improving such an important article. --Mkativerata (talk) 07:31, 16 December 2011 (UTC)]
Hi Mkativerata. You participated in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive228#Richard Arthur Norton copyright violations, in which a one-month topic ban on creating new articles and making page moves was imposed on Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk · contribs). The closing admin has asked for community input about whether to remove the topic ban or make it indefinite at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Richard Arthur Norton: Revisiting topic ban; Should it be removed or made indefinite?. Cunard (talk) 08:48, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Wikilinking countries in ITN
I think you missed
- Yes I did miss that, thanks. --Mkativerata (talk) 01:27, 18 December 2011 (UTC)]
John Defterios
Hey, remember when I told you about suspicious editing on behalf of John Defterios? Well it seems another user Ga8thds (talk · contribs) has popped up to pad poorly sourced puffery onto the article since November. I've documented the suspicious activity on Ga8thds' talk page, and am waiting for his response. Also, a sockpuppet investivgation in August sniffed out some COI users who edited the Defterios page, though none of them were related to Ga8thds.
Just keeping you updated. —Yk Yk Yk talk ~ contrib
- Thanks for letting me know, and sorry I haven't been paying close attention to it. I will now! --Mkativerata (talk) 19:32, 20 December 2011 (UTC)]
- I've just locked the article down. Sorry I know this means you can't edit it either. But the block/sock cycle isn't going to work and it shouldn't be the kind of article that needs to be updated/corrected often. I've set it at six months but hopefully it can be lifted well before then. --Mkativerata (talk) 07:50, 22 December 2011 (UTC)]
- I've just locked the article down. Sorry I know this means you can't edit it either. But the block/sock cycle isn't going to work and it shouldn't be the kind of article that needs to be updated/corrected often. I've set it at six months but hopefully it can be lifted well before then. --
- Wait, but there's currently only one editor who is adding unsourced info to the article. The other two User:JohnKD & User:Jkdefterios have not been active because it's glaringly obvious who they are and other sockpuppets have been blocked. —Yk Yk Yk talk ~ contrib 08:04, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- It seems to me this account is one in a long line of accounts associated with (if not socks of) Defterios and it's going to persist. But if you'd like me to unprotect, please just say so: obviously protection should help good editors (you) not hinder them. --Mkativerata (talk) 09:20, 22 December 2011 (UTC)]
- It seems to me this account is one in a long line of accounts associated with (if not socks of) Defterios and it's going to persist. But if you'd like me to unprotect, please just say so: obviously protection should help good editors (you) not hinder them. --
- Wait, but there's currently only one editor who is adding unsourced info to the article. The other two User:JohnKD & User:Jkdefterios have not been active because it's glaringly obvious who they are and other sockpuppets have been blocked. —Yk Yk Yk talk ~ contrib 08:04, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Bulk COPYVIO issue
Hi, you've recently been working on Wikipedia:Copyright problems, so please help with this issue: I reverted a COPYVIO issue, then noticed that the same user added copyrighted text to a couple dozen pages today (23 December). I think all those additions need to be expunged rather than just reverted; thanks. Rostz (talk) 02:43, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- It's not clear to me what purpose this text is serving. It's not obviously a copyright violation, because the text is quoted, attributed, etc. The question is whether it violates Mkativerata (talk) 07:26, 24 December 2011 (UTC)]
- (As a potential resource, I expect.) Hmm, it's been my understanding from past cases that copyvios can be present anywhere in WP; Talk pages are also CC-licensed, and note that WP:C#Copyright violations refers to "pages" rather than "articles". In any case, some of these additions aren't brief (~4K of text), and taken as a whole, ~50K of a book seems significant enough to be concerned about. Rostz (talk) 13:08, 24 December 2011 (UTC)]
- Absolutely, copyvios can occur on any page of the project. One relevant question with Mkativerata (talk) 18:48, 24 December 2011 (UTC)]
- And you don't thus think it's best to err on the side of caution? Rostz (talk) 19:45, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- To be honest, probably not. This is in low risk territory. It is almost certainly not a breach of copyright law; at the most, it is a breach of Mkativerata (talk) 19:48, 24 December 2011 (UTC)]
- To be honest, probably not. This is in low risk territory. It is almost certainly not a breach of copyright law; at the most, it is a breach of
- And you don't thus think it's best to err on the side of caution? Rostz (talk) 19:45, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- Absolutely, copyvios can occur on any page of the project. One relevant question with
- (As a potential resource, I expect.) Hmm, it's been my understanding from past cases that copyvios can be present anywhere in WP; Talk pages are also CC-licensed, and note that
Syamsir Alam
Hello Mkativerata, I would like to know for witch reason you deleated the page af Syamsir Alam. I would like to create a new page and add more information. Is it possible? Thanks in advance for your answer. Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.183.89.192 (talk) 13:09, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hi there. The article has been deleted a few different times. The first time it was deleted it was because Syamsir was not Mkativerata (talk) 19:13, 28 December 2011 (UTC)]
- Thank you for your quick answer. Now, there are reliable sources. You could have a look on the internet site www.cs-vise.be or CS Visé. There are articles, videos, highlights of this player. On the newspapers in Belgium and in Indonesia, there are a lot of articles. And he is followed by more than 50.000 people on Twitter. Even if Twitter is not an official source, it means though that he is well known and that a lot of people are interested in his performances. Could I create a new page or could you make the previous one readable again and then I could fill it with updated news? Thanks again!
- I'm afraid Twitter is not a reliable source. What you'll need is independent sources, such as newspaper articles, not club websites and Twitter feeds. If you could provide examples of such independent sources, I'd consider restoring the page. --Mkativerata (talk) 18:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC)]
- Hello dear, Twitter is of course not a reliable source, but it was just to tell you that he is popular. I am executive secretary in the club he is playing in. So the sources are reliable. Everything that is in the site is information that he gave to us. There are also a lot of articles in newspapers about him, but it is belgian press. But I am happy to see how the rules are strict, as I use myself a lot Wikipedia to search informations about a lot of things. There are some articles of him in the belgian press (in French then). There are also several video broadcasts of him on TV ONE (Indonesia)(Indonesian sport shannel) . I really hope you will restore the page. Thanks a lot.
- If you could give me some links to these sources, that would help. --Mkativerata (talk) 08:59, 30 December 2011 (UTC)]
- [10] here is the interview of him on TV ONE (Indonesia)
- I haven't looked at that one out of fear what it would do to my computer machine :), but this kind of article, in a prominent newspaper, looks good. I'll restore the article when I have some time to work on it in about 12 hours, if that's ok. --Mkativerata (talk) 09:37, 30 December 2011 (UTC)]
- Great! Thank you very mutch! And happy new year! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.183.89.192 (talk) 09:51, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- Not a problem. I've created a new article rather than restored the old article as the old article is now out of date. The new article is Mkativerata (talk) 19:23, 30 December 2011 (UTC)]
- I have added some informations. I hope this is ok. Thank you for restoring the page. Could you please help me and send me a link of how to pur a picture? EWEUS (talk) — 10:26, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- The best place to upload a picture is at Wikimedia Commons. You'll just need to demonstrate that the picture can be used by wikipedia without being subject to copyright restrictions. Speaking of copyright restrictions, I saw that you added text to the article from here. CS Vise's website is subject to copyright so we can't copy text from it. There are a lot of useful facts there so we should try to summarise it. --Mkativerata (talk) 19:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC)]
- The best place to upload a picture is at Wikimedia Commons. You'll just need to demonstrate that the picture can be used by wikipedia without being subject to copyright restrictions. Speaking of copyright restrictions, I saw that you added text to the article from here. CS Vise's website is subject to copyright so we can't copy text from it. There are a lot of useful facts there so we should try to summarise it. --
- I have added some informations. I hope this is ok. Thank you for restoring the page. Could you please help me and send me a link of how to pur a picture? EWEUS (talk) — 10:26, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Not a problem. I've created a new article rather than restored the old article as the old article is now out of date. The new article is
- Great! Thank you very mutch! And happy new year! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.183.89.192 (talk) 09:51, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- I haven't looked at that one out of fear what it would do to my computer machine :), but this kind of article, in a prominent newspaper, looks good. I'll restore the article when I have some time to work on it in about 12 hours, if that's ok. --
- [10] here is the interview of him on
- If you could give me some links to these sources, that would help. --
- Hello dear, Twitter is of course not a reliable source, but it was just to tell you that he is popular. I am executive secretary in the club he is playing in. So the sources are reliable. Everything that is in the site is information that he gave to us. There are also a lot of articles in newspapers about him, but it is belgian press. But I am happy to see how the rules are strict, as I use myself a lot Wikipedia to search informations about a lot of things. There are some articles of him in the belgian press (in French then). There are also several video broadcasts of him on
- I'm afraid Twitter is not a reliable source. What you'll need is independent sources, such as newspaper articles, not club websites and Twitter feeds. If you could provide examples of such independent sources, I'd consider restoring the page. --
- Thank you for your quick answer. Now, there are reliable sources. You could have a look on the internet site www.cs-vise.be or
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Victorian Era Exhibition 1897
Hi, as stated in my user-page, I have been too busy lately to work on any Wiki stuff. So can you now please un-delete Victorian Era Exhibition 1897, so that I can edit out its problems in a "my space" box. Ta Steve Stephen2nd (talk) 13:18, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I can't userfy the article because of the copyright violations it contained. Instead, I have placed Mkativerata (talk) 19:23, 1 January 2012 (UTC)]
- According to PBS and MER C, the only copyright violation in the article was Edward Henry Corbould. The opening description and size & descripton of the venue / Entertainment section / Dickens Memorial section / Commemorative Medal section were mostly researced from the actual exhibition catalogue which was published well over 100 years ago. Can you please reinstate the texts from these sections, which were not in dispute? Stephen2nd (talk) 21:43, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- Before I deleted the article I checked samples of it. The Corbould section that is most certainly not the only part of the article that contains copyright violations. The Martin Couney section contains extensive copying from here. Earlier sections of the article also contain copying. For example, your article said:
Another major attraction at the VEE Earls Court arena, was Captain Paul Boyton's water chute which was completed in 1899. The Captain flooded the arena in 1893 and built the 70 ft high chute backing on to Lillie Road at today's West Brompton entrance. The ride was considered to be the biggest ride of its kind on either side of the Atlantic.
- This source (an extract of a book from 2003) says:
--Another major attraction at the Earls Court arena was Captain Paul Boyton's water chute which was constructed in 1899. The Captain flooded the arena in 1893 and built the 70ft high chute backing on to Lillie Road at today's West Brompton entrance. The ride was considered to be the biggest ride of its kind on either side of the Atlantic.
Mkativerata (talk) 21:57, 1 January 2012 (UTC)]
- According to PBS and MER C, the only copyright violation in the article was Edward Henry Corbould. The opening description and size & descripton of the venue / Entertainment section / Dickens Memorial section / Commemorative Medal section were mostly researced from the actual exhibition catalogue which was published well over 100 years ago. Can you please reinstate the texts from these sections, which were not in dispute? Stephen2nd (talk) 21:43, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- OK then, excluding these stated violations, can you please just reinstate the opening description and size & descripton of the venue / Dickens Memorial section / Commemorative Medal section. Stephen2nd (talk) 22:09, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry I'm not going to restore anything as I'm not confident that anything I restore other than the categories, images, etc isn't a copyright violation. If you have public domain sources that aren't copyrighted, just re-use them for a new clean article. --Mkativerata (talk) 22:10, 1 January 2012 (UTC)]
- Sorry I'm not going to restore anything as I'm not confident that anything I restore other than the categories, images, etc isn't a copyright violation. If you have public domain sources that aren't copyrighted, just re-use them for a new clean article. --
- OK then, excluding these stated violations, can you please just reinstate the opening description and size & descripton of the venue / Dickens Memorial section / Commemorative Medal section. Stephen2nd (talk) 22:09, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Dhammika Prasad
nominate ) 16:02, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
In the course of an ongoing case, the Arbitration Committee has decided to collect all relevant information regarding Malleus Fatuorum's block log and, as such, has created a table of all blocks, which can be found here. Since you either blocked or unblocked Malleus Fatuorum, you are welcome to comment, if you wish. Salvio Let's talk about it! 14:01, 9 January 2012 (UTC) ]
Anwar Ibrahim sodomy trialsYou might want to weigh in here. —Yk Yk Yk talk ~ contrib 06:21, 14 January 2012 (UTC) Piano Sonata No. 14 (Beethoven)Thank you for the move from a nickname to a factual name! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:48, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Award
Jan 2012Hi there Mkativerata, I understand why you removed the tag from the Steve Kean article, but it was inappropriate. Tags are left on articles to draw attention to the fact that specific work needs to be done on them. They shouldn't just be removed because they are 'ugly'. I reverted the edit, let's wait until the article has a proper lead section before we remove the tag. Cheers. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 00:56, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Your oppose is in the support section; not 100% sure if that was intended, it being the internet where humour is misconstrued. Stephen 01:40, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
RfAI'm just confued about your Oppose on MikeLynch's RfA. Are you being sarcastic? I'm a very stupid person. Please help. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 18:32, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Copyright problems board: clerk applicationHi. When we have an applicant for clerk at the copyright problems, we're supposed to get together a couple of the folks who work there to review. :) Would you mind weighing in at Wikipedia_talk:Copyright_problems/Clerks#Voceditenore? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:34, 16 January 2012 (UTC) A barnstar for you!
CheckUser?Should I file a sockpuppet investigation rgd. FamilyInstituteIntegrityUpholder (talk · contribs) based on this? The previous user whom we dealt with has now been blocked. Judging by FamilyInstituteIntegrityUpholder's own edit history, he's likely to get blocked soon too. I'm interested in finding if these two are part of a network of POV users hired by political operatives. They might have several "sleeper" accounts which edit other articles as a smokescreen and then launch into action when the pages they're really targeting get semi-protected. I've already seen one similar network hired by Malaysia's ruling party before, and if this is the case here, they're getting smarter about it. —Yk Yk Yk talk ~ contrib 16:32, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Blocked userAs the blocking admin for this block, could you take a look at FascismDoctrineRespecter (talk · contribs), particularly this edit? Fat&Happy (talk) 01:19, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Cowboy adminFor disclosure I'm pretty angry about something the user in question has done at the moment. Barring being specifically asked to comment further on that issue, after this post I'll step away from anything related to ITN or this user for at least a day. About a month ago you made this edit at WP:ITNC, in relation to User:Tariqabjotu. I was wondering whether with the benefit of hindsight you would take the comment back, or whether you feel there are grounds to regard the user as having a "cowboy" or "rogue" attitude to the tools? —WFC— 07:24, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Happy Australia Day! Thank you for contributing to Australian content!
Jacques KallisHi, Mkativerata. I realize that you are a longstanding, and I'm sure respected, contributor to Wikipedia, and the last thing I want to do is to rattle any cages... considering this was the first edit that I have done. However, I see that you have once again changed my edit. Stating that I used weasel words. Firstly; that was not the case. Weasel words are used to make a statement that is not based on actual facts and statistics. Which is not what I did. I'll try to explain the best I can. Saying that something IS true, and saying that something can be CONSIDERED true is not essentially the same thing. When you say a girl is pretty, you claim, without a doubt that she is indeed pretty. When you say she can be considered to be pretty, you merely point out that she could be seen as pretty by some and not by others. And that is all I did in the "Jacques Kallis" article. I pointed out that; him being one of the best batsmen of all time; can be assumed... but is still open for debate. What is strange to me is that in Sachin Tendulkars' article they make actual claims; yet it goes over-looked. These claims (according to the references used)are based on opinions; albeit those of certain cricketers... but it still remains opinions(Don't get me wrong; I am not saying these claims are false. Sachins statistics speaks for itself, in that regard). Whereas, when I make a statement based on statistics(which are the facts) I am said to be self sourcing, ie. basing it on my own opinion. The stats are the facts, the only real truth. Everything else are just opinions. I would really like to believe that Wikipedia is not a forum where using references and citations based on other cricketers opinions(cricketers whose own opinions may be influenced by a particular like or dislike of a certain individual) carry more weight than references based on statistics(which are always cold, unbiased and irrefutable). I don't think it is that far fetched for anyone to consider the possibility that, according to the statistics, Jacques Kallis could be one of the greatest batsmen of all time; especially in light of the fact that his stats are near Identical to Tendulkar's. Would you not agree with me on this? I hope we can reach an agreement on this matter, and would really appreciate any positive response from you. Kenneth Grant (talk) 09:12, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi there. I just want to thank you for your prompt reply. I have gone though the "verifiability, not truth" policy, and I understand the guidelines more clearly now. And I agree with you; stats do lie. But the same variables you mentioned could apply to any other batsman; whether it be Kallis, Tendulkar, or even Bradman. One could argue that; if there is no discernible truth, then at least a standard, whether partially flawed or not, for the truth must be set. Statistics always provides me with that standard. Statistics, like opinions, may not tell you the whole story. But, at least statistics, unlike opinions at times, is never based on sentiment. However, my view on statistics does not change this situation one little bit. The fact is; "rules are rules", and I'll have to abide by them. Again, thanks for your feedback. It is much appreciated. Kenneth Grant (talk) 10:02, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
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warning - personal attack in edit summaryPlease do not personally attack me in edit summaries or anywhere else - diff - Youreallycan 21:19, 30 January 2012 (UTC) 3RR earning - on Vinay Kumar{{3RR|Vinay Kumar}} - Youreallycan 21:52, 30 January 2012 (UTC) |