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December 14, 2012

DYK for Jarman Gap

DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply

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DYK for Greenwood Tunnel

DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 16:03, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply

• The reference source quoted does not list Mustoe as a government-recognized settlement, so therefore this article unfortunately looks like it falls short of Wikipedia:Notability_(geographic_features)#Geographic_regions.2C_areas_and_places. I don't want to annoy the creator by flagging it for deletion, but really it needs more proof that it's notable enough to have its own article, so if that can be added (and referenced) then great. If not I suggest that it is turned into a redirect page to a section within another article on the nearby area, which would save it from deletion altogether.

Perhaps you could clarify if you have plans to develop these articles further? As I say, I don't want to nominate them for deletion but I think I'm likely in a minority and other patrollers will be

• Hello Baldy Bill! Thanks for your interest in my work. I was under the impression that a feature listed by GNIS was considered notable, as this would indicate the location as a government recognized place. Though I understand that these unincorporated communities are not, as the GNIS states, "a census designated or incorporated place having an official federally recognized name," I thought that a place marked by the U.S. Board on Geographic Names and located on maps is considered government recognized. Also, many other counties in Virginia, such as Albemarle, have listed the many unincorporated communities within the county, each with a separate article. By all means, if I am mistaken or have read this wrong, please correct me. I do plan to develop some of the unincorporated community pages if I can into more detailed articles at some time in the future. Thanks! MountainRail (talk) 13:00, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think it depends how we interpret the notability criteria together with the wording on the GNIS classification. It's certainly a grey area, which is why I was contacting you to find out if you planned to create a lot more similar location articles. I hate having my work deleted and would not like to think that you spend hours on it and then someone else will come along and flag all your stubs for deletion. It's clear that you created these in good faith, and with more information than the some of the ones on the Albemarle template! I'd suggest though that if you did want to cover the county better it might be worth just creating redirect pages for each name, eg Mustoe→redirect to "Smaller Communities of Highland County" each with its own section, which would be more informative as many such location stubs do not give any information other than their postion on the map. This would fit well with the spirit of "Merged groups of small articles" under part 1 of Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_directory. I have voted for it to be kept, along with Mint Springs, so happy editing!

Baldy Bill (talk) 14:26, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It seems a separate article such as "smaller communities of X County" or "unincorporated communities of X County" is not regularly used for U.S. Counties. A search of a few different terms brought up list articles for each state (for example List of unincorporated communities in Virginia), but not for individual counties. I like the idea of having a central article that lists places within the county, and one of the best examples I could find representing this is Communities in Norfolk County, Ontario. However, I fear that this would be somewhat repetitive for most U.S. counties, as probably the majority of counties have some list of unincorporated communities (such as in the county templates) that link to separate, mainly stub-class articles for each community, and changing the current practice would take a great deal of work. Perhaps a list of unincorporated communities as a section of the main county article (some counties already have this) could be put in (or expanded) to include coordinates and other information. I don't plan on making a lot more of these articles, but I am planning on expanding some of them, especially in Albemarle and Augusta Counties along the old Virginia Central Railroad. Thank you for your input! MountainRail (talk) 21:36, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

MountainRail, thank you again for your review of this article. I've corrected the link within the citation in question. When you have a moment, could you please take a look at it and confirm on

 Done MountainRail (talk) 01:02, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nyttend (talk 16:03, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply