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Benny Ong
BornCirca. 1950
Canton Region,
Triad
Member
Criminal statusDeceased

Benny Ong known as ucle benny ucle seven was a criminal

Conflict with the Hip Sing Tong

United under the leadership of Thai, the BTK brazenly committed crimes and robberies whenever and wherever they wanted, because according to David, since Chinatown's traditional power structure did not include the Vietnamese, the Vietnamese were therefore not bounded by the rules and laws of the community. The gang had also, as a result of this belief, not sworn allegiance to any particular Tongs or the Triad, unlike many of their contemporary gangs, and as such, frenziedly robbed from establishments that were under control of other Chinatown crime syndicates; on one occasion, a group of six gang members robbed from a gambling den at 1 Catherine Street, in which they stripped several of the customers (including some Tong leaders) in the basement of the gambling den of their cash, jewelry, and credit cards.[1]

Sometime in the summer of 1990, David Thai was personally requested to attend a meeting by Kai Sui "Benny" Ong, the adviser-for-life of the Hip Sing Tong, otherwise known to the Chinatown community as the Godfather of Chinatown or Chut Suk, which translates to "Uncle Seven". Hearing of the instability of the Chinatown criminal infrastructure caused directly as a result of the BTK's recent activities, Benny Ong demanded a kong su, an underworld slang for negotiation with David Thai, in order to discuss the matter. Presumably, had the meeting taken place, Benny Ong would have offered David the ability to hold onto his rackets and control of Canal Street in exchange of giving up the reigns over his gang brothers. Though many in the Chinese community felt that David should've felt honored to attend a meeting with Uncle Seven, David did not respond to Ong's request for a meeting or negotiation.[2] In retaliation, Thai's right-hand man at that point, Vinh Vu, was gunned down at a street corner at 1:00 AM when Vinh and his companion were waiting for a taxi to pick them up from a massage parlor.[3]

Arthur Ha
DiedMarch 3rd, 1973
NationalityChina
OccupationGangster,
Known forMember of the White Eagle's gang
Criminal statusDeceased

Arthur Ha was a Chinese born American gangster who was a

triad
criminal and a member of the notorious White Eagles gang during the early 1970s until his death on March 3rd, 1973.

Death

On March 3rd 1973 Nikki Louie and his crew from the Ghost Shadows gang spotted Arthur Ha, standing alone on Mott Street, shoving a gun into his ribs, they kidnapped him by a car, bound his hands with wire and tied his feet together with twine, driving him to a pier in the East River, dragged him to the edge of the water threw him into the swiftly moving current drowning him with his body being recovered several weeks later.

His death marked a change in the Chinese underworld because it showed that the White Eagles were venerable in their, supposedly safe, geographical territory. Arthur Ha's death was the beginning of the end of the their dominance of Mott Street. The On Leong Tong later changed their enforcement arm, muscle, from the White Eagles to the Ghost Shadows. Later the White Eagle's disbanded in 1980 and all this started with the death of Arthur Ha.[4][5] [6]

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Michael Chen
BornCirca. 1950
Canton Region,
Hip Sing Tong Credit Union
NationalityChina, United States
Other namesThe Scientist
Occupation(s)Crime boss, Gangster, Extorsionist, Gambler
Known forLeader of Flying Dragons, Triad Member
Criminal statusDeceased

Michael Chen was a Chinese born American gangster who was a

Flying Dragons (gang)
during the late 1970's until his death on March 13, 1983.

Early Life

Chen was born in the Canton Region of China in 1950. When he was 13 years old, he immigrated to New York City from Hong Kong with his mother and sister. There they were joined his father, who had left China when his mother was pregnant with Chen. After his arrival, Chen worked as a delivery boy for a Chinese restaurant in Upper Manhattan while attending Seward Park High School, near Chinatown. After his graduation from high school, Chen attended college briefly. Chen's father learned a living as a taxi driver. [6]

Criminal History

Chen started his criminal career around the mid seventies. He was arrested in Queens for homicide in 1976 but the charges were dismissed. The following year, he was indicted in the slayings of two members of the rival Ghost Shadows during a brazen shoot-out in the crowded Pagoda Theater on East Broadway in Manhattan's Chinatown. However, he was later acquitted. In the late 1970's he became the head of the Flying Dragons. [6]

Personality

Chen was nicknamed "The Scientist" because of his cool calm demeanor and patient ways. He had a reputation for being polite and never seemed outrageous or rude, He did not drink, smoke or gamble and was generous toward others. He did however, have weakness for women. He was considered to be extremely good to his parents and affectionate toward his grandmother. He owned three expensive sports cars and dressed only in designer clothes. Chen thought himself as a businessman and had invested in a nightclub in Flushing, Queens, a meat market and a paper supply house in Manhattan. Before his demise, he allegedly told his friends he was contemplating completely disassociating himself from the from the gangland of Chinatown and transforming himself into a respectable businessman. [6]

Death

On March 13, 1983, Chen was woken up in the middle of the night by a phone call and left his apartment which was above the Hip Sing Tong Credit Union and showed up at a coffee shop adjacent to the credit union. There he was shot with a handgun fourteen times four of then went thru his eyes. The Police Spokesman Sgt. Edwin LeSchack identified Chen's body which was found at 12:30 pm by an officer of the Hip Sing Association. Although Michael Chen's Murder was never been solved initial speculation by Police Captain Robert Larkin was that is was a revenge killing by the Free Masons Gang who accused the Flying Dragons of killing three of their own members in a restaurant in Chinatown last December. However further investigation police theorized that the killing was carried out by people whom Chen knew because he would not have gotten out of bed at such a late time to meet strangers. In the early 1980's the was a fight for the control of the soul of the Flying Dragons with Chen being on the position that the gang should stick to traditional racketeering with the crimes of extortion and gambling and on the other side was of Chen's underling Johnny "Machine Gun" Eng who wanted to expand into more lucrative crimes such as heroin trafficking. This lead to a division in the gang as what would be the future of the organization. A deeper investigation uncovered that it was a power grab by Johnny Eng to take full control of the Flying Dragons. It was also thought that since the Flying Dragons were associated with the Hip Sing Tong and that the shooting happened across the street for the Tong it is believed that the assassination could not have occurred without the blessing of the leader of the Hip Sing Tong Benny Ong who was considered the Godfather of Chinatown therefor sanctioned the murder of Michael Chen. [6] [7][4]

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1"The Canadian Tank Battle in Italy"TBATBA
May 1944: Canadian tanks begin their final push to drive the Germans from Italy. At each step, over rugged mountains and through steep valleys, the Canadians confront Hitler's elite Panzers - at the Melfa river, on the Trasimene Line, in the formidable Gothic Line, finally battering their way into the Po Valley.
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Michael Wittmann, the most decorated tank ace in history, fought at Kursk and in Normandy and in many of the greatest tank battles of all time. An officer in the notorious Waffen SS, hailed as a hero by the Nazis, Wittmann remains a focus of cult and controversy.
3"Vietnam Insurgency"TBATBA
1965: American ground forces and Marine Corps tanks land in South Vietnam, confident that they will defeat the Communist insurgency, until they encounter the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army.
4"The Tank Battles of the Pacific"TBATBA
By 1942, the Japanese Empire stretched halfway across the Pacific Ocean. This is the rarely told story of the key role played by US Marine tanks in the Pacific Campaign. They fight bloody battles against fanatical Japanese forces that defend the now infamous Islands of Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Saipan, Iwo Jima and Okinawa.
5"Vietnam Armoured Attack"TBATBA
1968: The Americans mobilise hundreds of tanks to help defeat Communist forces in South Vietnam. Now the Communists combine guerrilla tactics with conventional military might and send their own tanks into battle. The final struggle for Vietnam begins.
6"The Battle For Germany"TBATBA
In 1944 the US 3rd Armoured Division spearheads the Allied push from the western border of Germany towards Berlin. The American tankers battle fanatical Germans defending their homeland to the last, armed with the most powerful Panzers ever to take the battlefield.

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Information icon Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Mott Street. Your edits could be interpreted as vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. The content you added is NOT supported by the source Theroadislong (talk) 17:26, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize if I used invalid information and I did not mean to commit vandalism I used information that is cited in a History Channel documentary entitled Organized Crime A World History China. I have the link here that proves the information I used was valid and verified. Please when you have the time please watch the documentary. My apologies for any misgivings.

https://drive.google.com/a/id.uff.br/file/d/1WcxgxZEbmjBCJ38sW_mpJeNe5bkC4pEi/view?usp=drivesdk

This cannot be used as a source. Theroadislong (talk) 18:12, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What can be used as a source the documentary or the fact it is on Google Drive ? I can offer you a Youtube or Dailymotion link so you can be able to watch the documentary.

Google drive and Youtube are definitely not reliable sources, I don't know about Daily Motion. Theroadislong (talk) 18:20, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I just want to know if the documentary can be used as a reliable source?

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Hello Philip Cross made a revision to the personality of
Michael Chen. This revision took out main details about the personality of Michael Chen. Every detail is made to better decribe the man that he was and Philip's Cross's revisions take out key details in explaining this man. Therefore I undid his edit. I thank him for his many edits and he his welcome to revise in the page any time but in the subject I thought it wise to undo his edit. Privatesteverogers (talk) 17:03, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the response. I'm not sure if you saw the reasoning for the edit, but it says that the revision by Cross was made for the article to look 'less like a submission by his defense council'. I have to agree, as saying he had a great relationship with his grandmother isn't really relevant to the article and does sound like something written to put him in a better light. I am open to a counter-argument but I cannot really see this being included, unless you can find a source to cite yourself - ˜”*°•.˜”*°•
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Hello, your welcome for the response.

The reasoning for the edit is not that the explanation is 'less like a submission by his defense council’ or saying that he was good to his grandmother. It has nothing to do with defending Michael Chen it is about explaining that he was generous towards people being key to his personality and therefore key to the article. It has nothing to do with the fact that it makes him seem less like a criminal, it is about the person that he was. It is contradictory but it is still foremost to understanding him.

Philip Cross's edits take away this principal detail in his personality which is the reason they called him "The Scientist". You should not take out he fact that Chen had a reputation for being polite just because it makes him look good but because it is better for the article. The edit took out the foremost aspect about it was his kindness, even though he was a had this lawbreaking aspect about him. It is not in his defense of the man; he was a criminal and not a good person. That is indisputable. However, he had this positive feature to himself. Consequently being positive for the article.

Many organized crime leaders had this aspect towards themselves. Angelo Bruno the former leader of the Philadelphia Mafia was called the “Gentle Don” because he preferred diplomacy than violence. He was still a mobster but still preferred to use less violence to do business and make more money. Chen had this same aspect towards him.

Many organized crime leaders had this characteristic. It is the reason why they lasted as long as they did because of the fact, it caused less attention form law enforcement. As the old saying goes you get more flies with honey than with vinegar.


Therefore as the creator of the article, I did research on Michael Chen very well and that he had this positive side towards him even though it may seem contradictory.

My source is from the book: Beyond the Mafia: Organized Crime in the Americas contained in the link below:

https://books.google.com.br/books?id=Mx-5je_EYAQC&q=Michael+the+scientist+chen&pg=PA63&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=Michael%20the%20scientist%20chen&f=false


Therefore I hope you see this a positive towards my counter argument as why my previous edits should be maintained. Privatesteverogers (talk) 18:59, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey again, thanks for the continued response. I see no problem with adding the information back as long as it is cited properly. When you say you did research on Chen, since there was no source, it does seem like you are just being troublesome; however, you backed yourself up nicely. Thanks ˜”*°•.˜”*°•
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Your welcome for the continued response it’s no problem. It is my pleasure. Thank you for the compliment I try to write and express myself the best way possible, Sorry if I sounded troublesome. It is just I am very dedicated to this page it is passion project. Don’t worry I will cite my source and undo the edit. Take carePrivatesteverogers (talk) 16:21, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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