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Last Judgement Day moved to draftspace

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February 2023

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Hello, Rogeratlymm,
Please don't move draft articles to project/Wikipedia space or User space unless it is your own User space like your Sandbox. And this page was deleted because it contained no content. Don't move blank pages to the main space of the project.
If you have questions, please bring them to the Teahouse. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 17:43, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for my finger trouble! I understand now that I should have moved the Sandbox to 'Article' rather than 'User' or 'Wikipedia'. Rogeratlymm (talk) 20:33, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

March 2023

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Hello Rogeratlymm. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Jean Thomassen, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Rogeratlymm. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Rogeratlymm|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Your contributions such as Jean Thomassen and associated articles on his paintings and his wife seem to imply a conflict of interest. Please describe your connection to Thomassen. Thank you Netherzone (talk) 22:43, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for contacting me about my Wikipedia pages on Jean Thomassen. I am very happy to confirm that I have received and expect to receive no benefits, financial or otherwise, from these pages. I created the pages for the entirely altruistic reason that, having viewed and admired his work - for which he has been knighted - I believe that it deserves greater recognition outside his native Holland. Please confirm that my contribution is therefore in accordance with the Wikimedia Terms of Use. Rogeratlymm (talk) 08:20, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Rogeratlymm, thank you for the quick reply. I'm just wondering, if you do not have a direct connection to Thomassen, how is it that you were able to upload so many images of his work as your "own work"? Netherzone (talk) 18:32, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again Netherzone. I'm not sure how you gained the impression that I did not have a direct connection to Jean Thomassen. In fact, already aware of his work, I had the pleasure of meeting him in person at the special exhibition of many of his paintings at Museum Slager in Holland four years ago. We kept in touch and he has been very helpful in explaining some of the less obvious elements in his paintings. I became aware that although there is a somewhat inadequate Dutch entry (https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Thomassen) there was no equivalent English Wikipedia entry. My latent thought of producing such a page had to be put on hold, firstly because of Covid and then because of my other work pressures. Since your earlier message I have confirmed again that the artist holds the rights to the full resolution images but is entirely happy that the lower resolution images should appear on Wikipedia. It was because I had generated the lower resolution images that I thought that it would be reasonable to claim they were my 'own work'. I will be more than happy to accept your advice on the best way forward. Of course, an easy answer would be to remove all images from Wikipedia but I think this would be a disservice to readers - a bit like going round a gallery with one's eyes shut. One final point - I should like to reiterate that I am receipt of no payment or reward for this work, which is offered in the best traditions of Wikipedia contributions. Rogeratlymm (talk) 14:52, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Rogeratlymm, Thank you for stating that you are not being paid. However you clearly have a
WP:COI
. In a nutshell,
  • you should disclose your COI when involved with affected articles;
  • you are strongly discouraged from editing affected articles directly;
  • you may
    COI noticeboard
    , so that they can be peer reviewed;
  • you should put new articles through the
    Articles for Creation (AfC)
    process instead of creating them directly;
  • you should not act as a reviewer of affected article(s) at AfC,
    new pages patrol
    or elsewhere;
  • you should respect other editors by keeping discussions concise.
Additionally, there is a "Plain and simple guide to COI editing that can be found here:
WP:PLAINSIMPLECOI
if you want to quickly review what is required.
You need to stop editing the articles directly and instead use the Edit Request system.
Regarding the photos that you uploaded as "your own work", that will need to be corrected. Because Thomassen, not you, own the copyrights we would need to have confirmation that they gave you explicit permission to be uploaded and released with a CC 4.0 license., which allows ANYONE to
  • share
  • to copy, distribute and transmit the work
  • to remix – to adapt the work
WP:VRT
that must be followed to prove that the copyrights were transferred to you, and/or that he is releasing his work on that license. That consent (proof) needs to be sent via the VRT ticketing system guidelines. Since you are not the legal owner of his copyright (even if you happen to like or even own the paintings), the photographs unfortunately will have to be deleted because of copyright violation, see: WP:COPYVIO.
I'm sorry to have to share this news with you, I know it's a lot of information to take in. Copyright law is complex and often confusing. Please reach out if you have questions, and if I don't know the answer, I will try to find another editor to help, or you can ask at the WP Teahouse, or WP Help desk, or Commons Help Desk. Netherzone (talk) 18:14, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WARNING: Please read the guidance again for conflict of interest editing at

WP:COI
and abide by our guidelines. You need to refrain from directly editing the article. Instead use the edit request system explained there.

It is fine for you to edit drafts as long as they are submitted through Articles for Creation, and not directly created or moved to article space, a reviewer would need to vet the drafts. Those that are currently in article space, such as Jean Thomassen should not be directly edited by you or another connected editor. You would need to propose edits by posting the request on the article talk page (using the edit request system = see:

WP:USERPAGE. Thank you. Netherzone (talk) 15:54, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Last Judgement Day moved to draftspace

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Triumph of Death (Thomassen) moved to draftspace

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The actress Ine Veen moved to draftspace

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28 x Rembrandt moved to draftspace

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Voice of Egypt No. 10 moved to draftspace

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Egyptian Triptych moved to draftspace

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I acknowledge your message. 212.229.81.142 (talk) 11:08, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have revised Egyptian Triptych by replacing theCOI conflict images with confirmed approved images from Wikimedia Commons. The Draft has now been submitted for restoration to the main Wikimedia site. The other drafts listed here will be re-submitted shortly. Thank you! Rogeratlymm (talk) 10:36, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Voice of Egypt No. 10 (April 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Asilvering was:
This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:
  • in-depth
     (not just passing mentions about the subject)
  • reliable
  • secondary
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Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
asilvering (talk) 02:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Last Judgement Day (April 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Mattdaviesfsic were:
This submission is not adequately supported by
peacock terms
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Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 19:47, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Egyptian Triptych (August 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Paul Vaurie was:
This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Paul Vaurie (talk) 21:29, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Egyptian Triptych 2

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia.

talk) 00:02, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Your submission at Articles for creation: The actress Ine Veen (August 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Rkieferbaum was:
The proposed article does not have sufficient content to require an article of its own, but it could be merged into the existing article at The actress Ine Veen. Since anyone can edit Wikipedia, you are welcome to add that information yourself. Thank you.
Β The comment the reviewer left was:
None of the sources appear to cover this specific artwork in detail, so there's no indication of
notoriety of the painting itself. Most of the article covers the artist's relationship with the person portrayed in the painting and there's no reason to think it deserves an article of its own. My advice is to merge most of the information present in this draft into the artist's article (Jean Thomassen). Rkieferbaum (talk) 19:53, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Rkieferbaum (talk) 19:53, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: 28 x Rembrandt (August 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Rkieferbaum was:
The proposed article does not have sufficient content to require an article of its own, but it could be merged into the existing article at 28 x Rembrandt. Since anyone can edit Wikipedia, you are welcome to add that information yourself. Thank you.
Β The comment the reviewer left was:
As with Draft:The actress Ine Veen, there's no indication of notoriety of this particular painting. Verifiable and relevant information could be added to the artist's article at Jean Thomassen. Rkieferbaum (talk) 19:58, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Rkieferbaum (talk) 19:58, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Triumph of Death (Thomassen) (August 30)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Rkieferbaum was:
The proposed article does not have sufficient content to require an article of its own, but it could be merged into the existing article at Jean Thomassen. Since anyone can edit Wikipedia, you are welcome to add that information yourself. Thank you.
Β The comment the reviewer left was:
As with Draft:The actress Ine Veen, there's no indication of notoriety of this particular painting. Verifiable and relevant information could be added to the artist's article at Jean Thomassen.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Rkieferbaum (talk) 19:59, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Voice of Egypt No. 10

Hello, Rogeratlymm. It has been over six months since you last edited the

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. βœ—plicit 03:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Last Judgement Day

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. βœ—plicit 14:02, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Egyptian Triptych

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talk) 13:05, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

Your draft article, Draft:Triumph of Death (Thomassen)

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. βœ—plicit 00:36, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:28 x Rembrandt

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".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. βœ—plicit 00:39, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:The actress Ine Veen

Hello, Rogeratlymm. It has been over six months since you last edited the

Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "The actress Ine Veen
".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. βœ—plicit 00:45, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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