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The Signpost: 30 April 2012

Humber and Hosmer

I'm also disappointed that Humber didn't receive more page views than it did while it was promoted, but whaddyagonnado? Even though I keep track of page views for my DYKs, it's more for personal curiosity than bragging rights or anything like that.

Secret (talk · contribs) has informed me that he's going to be too busy with work to keep up on Eric Hosmer's GA nom. I've agreed to pick it up from him, as I created the article back in the day. Give me some time to read the article and GA nom page, and I'll try to get the review past the finish line. If you have any pointers, I'd gladly hear them. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes my activity is going to be extremely random at least for the next two weeks, maybe more. I've only had enough time to check my watchlist for a few minutes at a time. Let Muboshgu or me know if there's more concerns, I've added the second Rookie of the Month award. Thanks Secret account 05:38, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

James Hanna discussion

Hey, Tony. We were having a discussion at Talk:James Hanna about the best locations for the two James Hanna articles, and I thought you might want to take part. All the best. --Bongwarrior (talk) 18:43, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Benji (2012 film)

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:03, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Time 100 yearly lists

Hi, I started a thread at

WP:ANI#Copyright_and_lists. -RunningOnBrains(talk) 22:59, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Tony. I've blanked them as we discuss resolution. No template from me; I know that you're fully aware now of the issues at hand. :) As you see from that discussion, these are not simple issues! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:19, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Hearts and Souls

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:04, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

College football notability

Tony -- There's a discussion on my user page (User:Cbl62/College football notability) in which several of us are trying to develop some better notability standards for college football players. Given your experience in this area, I'd welcome your feedback. To sharpen the discussion, we've been kicking around several Michigan and Florida football players, including some Michigan guys you worked on. This is just an informal discussion to help get a better handle on general standards, but I figured you might want to comment. Cbl62 (talk) 20:23, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Main page appearance: South Side, Chicago

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upper-middle class, and affluent residents. The South Side boasts a broad array of cultural and social offerings, such as professional sports teams, landmark buildings, nationally renowned museums, elite educational institutions, world class medical institutions, and major parts of the city's elaborate parks system. (more...
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Anthony Davis

I've been considering doing a GA review on

Davis for a while, but when I started to actually do it, it came out more like a peer review. You can see what I came up with here. You can treat this a few ways. One, you can totally ignore it, and I'll probably delete the page after a few weeks. Two, you can address the concerns you feel are necessary as a general means of improving the article and wait for someone else to do an official GA review. Three, you can engage in some back and forth with me on that page to try and resolve the issues I raised (some of which probably set the bar higher than actually required for GA), then I will include that as part of a formal GA review (along with image review, possible source spot checks, etc.) Your call. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 19:34, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, our interests did intersect there. How about you Chicago folks keep sending your best roundball players to UK where the Big Blue Nation can enjoy them? That'll give the two of us some more common interests! Glad you found the review helpful. I'm just now getting into the reviewing side of things, and I worried it might be overkill for GA.
I haven't really decided what's going to dictate which reviews I focus on yet, but I am somewhat familiar with Juwan Howard and did take a look to decide if I wanted to review that article. To be honest, the sheer size of it intimidated me. I didn't want to start on it and not be able to finish, but the dude has unquestionably had a great career and deserves the kind of article you clearly appear to be building for him. Maybe I can gather my courage and at least take a shot at it. Nothing else at
WP:PR
has my interest piqued at the moment.
BTW, I got curious and read over some of your bio this morning. It's freaking awesome! Acdixon (talk · contribs) 17:02, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Parker's is definitely a name I'm familiar with. The 2013 HS class is so loaded it's not even funny. Congrats on the potential four first rounders; the NBA folks who don't follow college ball will appreciate your introduction to whoever their team just drafted. Hoping more than a few Knicks fans checked out Josh Harrellson after I created that article. I'll bet Royce White was a fun one to do. After watching him in the tourney against the Cats, I can see that he is a beast of a player. There is at least one more recent Chicago-UK connection that I am aware of – DeAndre Liggins. His current article is just a stub, but a while back, I made an abortive attempt to flesh out an article on him using articles from Newsbank. If you'd ever like to collaborate and see what we can come up with for him, let me know. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 17:32, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Good point. I forgot about HighBeam in addition to Newsbank. Thanks for the head start. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 18:20, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
I was on vacation last week, so I haven't seen a whole lot of stuff I usually would have. I did know that Parker was on the SI cover, but I have not gotten a chance to read the story yet. Once I beat back the stuff I'm behind on, I'll try to check it out. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:23, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Citations

I've always regarded citation style as somewhat a matter of preference. All of the GAs and FAs in the Governors of Kentucky good topic use the same style that I've used in the Harrellson article, and all passed their respective reviews without incident. In articles where the citations are heavy on web and newspaper sources, the style you've used for Davis may make more sense, but for articles where citations are mostly from books and include page numbers, restating the full bibliographic information within the footnote makes little sense. Granted, the Harrellson article falls more into the former category, but I've always regarded it as the editor's option. I don't think it should be used to derail a recognized content nomination either way, as long as the citation style is coherent. Kind of like choosing between APA and MLA. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 20:21, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Really? Fails
WP:V? Just because the short citation is used in the footnote and the longer one in the bibliography section? We could obviously disagree about convenience, and maybe even appropriateness in some cases, but to say that it flat out fails WP:V seems a stretch to me. Just because the reader has to take the extra step of matching the short citation to the long one in order to verify the content doesn't mean it isn't verifiable. It just means there is an extra step, just like verifying a fact in an offline source might require going to the library or verifying a fact in a foreign language source would require some translation. WP:V doesn't say it has to be as easy as possible to verify, just that it has to be verifiable. Now, because we are going to look at working together on the Liggins article, I'll probably change those over to your preferred style, but absent a reason like that, I wouldn't just go through changing them for the sake of changing them. Of course, until and unless it becomes an issue in a tangible case, we can just agree to disagree for now. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:27, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
OK, if it's just a matter of the page number and/or link, maybe we're closer to seeing eye-to-eye than I thought. When I first started pulling articles from Newsbank, I was not adding page numbers, but probably should have been. I'm trying to do that now. Problematically, some of the articles there don't provide page numbers, though. I don't think Highbeam gives page numbers at all. Since some articles may be available through multiple databases, I thought linking to the specific one I used could be frowned upon or regarded as advertising or promotion, even. It could also frustrate those who see the link and think it's a freebie. Maybe that isn't the case, though. Acdixon (talk · contribs) 13:50, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

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Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

Yes, I read review one carefully and some of those comments (specially comments related to lead section) was discussed in GA review too! --Tito Dutta Message 20:02, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you can add cn template! --Tito Dutta Message 20:24, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

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Great American Wiknic for Chicago in June

Hi Tony. I would like to invite you to again lead organizing the local Great American Wiknic this June (Wikipedia:Meetup/Chicago 6 was started as a placeholder by muzemike) :) Also, please confirm any preliminary details at Wikipedia:Wiknic#2012 Wiknic.--Pharos (talk) 18:16, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

No surprise, it passed as a GA. So, do you think it needs any work before we nominate it for FA? Is anything missing? Want to ask for a peer review first? – Muboshgu (talk) 21:24, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

PR is here. I forget if there's a one nom at a time limit at FAC as well (I've got a nomination up there), but I expect we can co-nominate this there sooner rather than later. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:49, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Artists Studio- Look Mickey

I had removed the speedy delete notice on your talk page because the new pages area said to wait a little bit before nominating a blank page for speedy deletion and I felt I had nominated it too early under that criterion. In my mind, a notice to something that I removed would be redundant. --Thebirdlover (talk) 22:01, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 14 May 2012

DYK for Calico Joe

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DYK for Drake Dunsmore

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DYK for Pat Dunsmore

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Proposed college football notability standard

I had a little bit of time to try to distill things into a proposed standard: Proposed college football notability. Comments welcome here. I'm going to be on vacation for the next few days but I'll check in when I return. Cbl62 (talk) 01:42, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Girl in Mirror

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:05, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bedroom at Arles

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:04, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Since the "Woody Interruptus" merger proposal has failed, and deletion is out of question at this time, I have started a discussion about developing a proposal about notability of episodes in WP:village pump (idea lab)#Notability of television (or radio) episodes. Join in. --George Ho (talk) 19:06, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

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Search

I'm afraid both "We Belong Together" and "Zou Bisou Bisou" didn't charted. I've made an extensive search and it's impossible to find something. Onlt "Bisou" reached No.155 on the iTunes chart, but that's not up to standard for charts. --

DYK for Oh, Jeff...I Love You, Too...But...

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:05, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for As I Opened Fire

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:02, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Yngvadottir (talk) 16:02, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Tony! Just to say great work on the Roy Lichtenstein articles you've been creating and DYK-ing. Even if I haven't read them all yet, I've enjoyed looking at the paintings! FWIW, this is my favourite. Take care, and keep up the good work. Moswento talky 09:15, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Brushstrokes series and Yellow and Green Brushstrokes

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DYK for Girl with Ball

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

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Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

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Ah, just block quotes are not counted - I always assumed that all quotes weren't counted, so sorry for that. I didn't find the hook that interesting and I've made a suggestion on the nomination page. By the way, it's good to see these articles - those are two particularly interesting art works. Mikenorton (talk) 21:11, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Artist's Studio—Look Mickey, Look Mickey

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DYK for In the Car

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Carabinieri (talk) 16:03, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

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Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:05, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Tony, I noticed you are using Amazon.com for references. It's generally not a good idea because it's a commercial book seller (spam) and there are usually more neutral sources for basic information (such as the publisher's website, magazine articles etc), and amazon.com is a USA only website (Canada and UK have different Amazon websites). Also in the rare cases you must use Amazon, make sure to remove your referral codes from the URL, otherwise you can potentially be seen as personally profiting from these links, which is a serious no-no on Wikipedia. For example this URL you added in

The Swerve: How the World Became Modern
:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Swerve-World-Became-Modern/dp/0393064476/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338215038&sr=8-1

Should be trimmed down to:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Swerve-World-Became-Modern/dp/0393064476

Notice the "ref" code for referral, that's your personal code that Amazon uses to track how people arrived at a page.

DYK for Cat Daddy

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I reopened the peer review - thanks for the heads up. It is usually my morning chore (to check what the bot archived), but I got busy this morning without getting to that. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:11, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 May 2012

Barack Obama on Twitter
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Please undo yourself, removing those merge tags and striking out the discussions. These merge discussions are perfectly valid: I am not asking for content to be deleted but merged. Drmies (talk) 18:47, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Non-free screenshot of Hill Street Station

File:19810115 Daniel Travanti in Hill Street Station episode of Hill Street Blues.png might or might not pass NFCC, so I have put this image under non-free review. --George Ho (talk) 22:44, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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On a related note, massive trim done to the notes section of List of Twitter users. --kelapstick(bainuu) 23:49, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2012 May newsletter

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