User talk:UtherSRG/Archive 7

@Prodraxis: You should be all set now. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:45, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Um, it ended up at the title with the disambiguator because of History of the United Kingdom (1945–present) the fact that "postwar" did not end in 1979 and following a split. I can't work out where the talk page with the discussion has ended up now, but you can see it in the history here. You need to revert your undiscussed move, then you can check all the incoming links to all the redirects, and then you can find the right talk pages for the right pages. DuncanHill (talk) 12:04, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

I will revert this, though I think in the end, an RM will move this again. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:10, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

I added almost a dozen secondary sources. I am not sure what else you are looking for here. Thanks. 1010Art (talk) 12:41, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

@

WP:42 and all of the other links we have provided you. - UtherSRG (talk)

12:47, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello, UtherSRG. Now I saw you reverted my deletion request for Statue of Miyamoto Musashi. I request deletion by criteria G5, but you reverted this because page creator is not blocked yet.

However, as you can see at Special:CentralAuth/Faitsetdocuments, page creator 'Faitsetdocuments' is blocked at frwiki since this account is sock of fr:Wikipédia:Faux-nez/Praelongum. Praelongum is global locked account (Special:CentralAuth/Praelongum), so apparently, Faitsetdocuments will be global locked, too. Isn't is enough to apply G5 for criteria of speedy deletion? Thank you. LR0725 [ Talk | Contribs ] 13:33, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

The tag you placed didn't have any information that linked Faitsetdocuments to Praelongum. I'll G5 now. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:36, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Maybe I missed it while global patrolling. Thank you! LR0725 [ Talk | Contribs ] 13:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

You think this isn't promotional? The truth about Colonel Mahmoud Eskandari is now available on YouTube thanking the technology that can be used to show the reality. His very high knowledge of flight accompanied by his very high flying skills when he was a smart and humble person made him a remarkable shining star in the galaxy of Iranian fighter pilots. Fame and popularity are the most simple words to show how the other pilots knew him. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:46, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

The paragraph you mentioned or the praise should be removed, not the entire article. with all due respect I still insist that this article be revived and send Nomination of Mahmoud Eskandari for deletion.

WP:AFD. thanks --Patricia (Talk)

13:29, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Removed that and more promo material and sent to AFD per your request. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:45, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

thanks Sir. you are so much Reasonable person.--Patricia (Talk) 13:50, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

May I suggest that you use

WP:AFC for creating new articles so that they can be reviewed before included in the encyclopedia. - UtherSRG (talk)

13:54, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Sure, I do.

WP:AFC its good for me too.--Patricia (Talk)

14:02, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

I hope you know that I admire you as an editor and admin. But as the editor who brought the SPI against Manalbare, I don't think you should be reviewing their unblock request. I think filing the SPI case that got the account blocked makes you involved. You might disagree but I think in these cases, it's better to let someone else handle an unblock request. Thanks for all of your many contributions to the project. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:15, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Fair enough. I've reverted my decline, throwing them back in the pool for someone else to decline or accept. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:45, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

And thanks for the nice compliment. :) I'm a fan of your work as well. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:08, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your flexibility. I rarely question other admins' work but thought a case like this one might come back to bite you, so to speak. I hope you have my back, too! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:30, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

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Dear UtherSRG yesterday I saw you reverted page "Princess Bee" from soft delete state to draft. Hoping it can be useful I have provided the talk page with a reviewed version of the page itself without those parts that, according to me, have not encyclopedic value. Please can you review the page and let me know next steps? Is there any procedure to re-valuate a page to be moved from soft delete to published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Videa79 (talk • contribs) 09:23, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

For a start, don't do that; don't re-draft an article or draft on its talk page. Make the edits in the right place so that differences can be seen. I've moved your rewrite into the draft itself. Second, I have no interest in the subject or reviewing it. I merely provided you a method of getting the work done in a manner that shields you from it being immediately send back to AFD. I will tag it as a draft and submit it to review for you. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:50, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

@Videa79: I suggest you read the deletion discussion (scant as it may be) and then seek assistance from The Teahouse, where there are folks who regularly handle helping out in this way. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:42, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi, please could you let me know why you have submitted my draft,

I strongly prefer to have new articles go through review, especially when there is even just a redirect in place. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:09, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

If you are following your own preference, rather than policy or consensus at RM/TR, please can you reconsider and either publish the article or return it to the RM/TR queue for another page mover to deal with. Otherwise presumably I can presumably start a RM.. I am willing to answer questions about the article, but think it is a low risk to Wikipedia as the college has been defunct for forty years and I am an experienced editor and can confirm I have no conflict of interest. TSventon (talk) 10:18, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Fair enough. I probably should have allowed someone else to handle it. I've taken a look and used AFCH to accept it. This allowed me to see some additional projects to put it in I wouldn't have thought of. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:38, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for dealing with this, it looks fine now. And I see it is autopatrolled at

WP:NPP. TSventon (talk

) 14:14, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, AFC has some additional value. I think more people should use it, and even more important, more people should become reviewers. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:21, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

I have put some articles through DYK, which means that they get an extra review following NPP. I can see you are doing a lot of the RM/T work, which I have just added to. TSventon (talk) 12:32, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

I am requesting you to please block pallavi.p.g28 because she is repeatedly and continuously making disruptive edits in the cast section of Udaariyaan. She is reverting correct information 103.101.212.245 (talk) 15:36, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

This looks like a content dispute. Please handle it via

WP:BRD. - UtherSRG (talk)

10:43, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

An article that you proposed for deletion, was changed by User:2crzppul to an Articles for Deletion notice, however no such discussion was created. Please review this if you still want to delete this article. Heart ^(talk) 14:40, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. They had every right to remove the PROD tag, but they seemed ignorant that there are multiple deletion processes. I've opened the AFD, though I was hoping to avoid it for this article. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, UtherSRG. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{

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) 15:15, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

@Notrealname1234: I can not read what those users wrote. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:54, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

I suggest using a translator. @UtherSRG Notrealname1234 (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, UtherSRG. Thank you for your work on

Hey there! Hope you're having a great day. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia with your article. I'm happy to inform you that your article has adhered to Wikipedia's policies, so I've marked it as reviewed. Have a fantastic day for you and your family!

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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 01:51, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

@SunDawn: Thanks... but I only moved it to a new title. Cheers! :) - UtherSRG (talk) 02:09, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

As Station1 wrote [3], I see no reason to have a different removal timeline for non-IP users. And am not aware of any rule mandating a difference. Irrespective of whether you can or do ping the IP users. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:F079:9CA5:9188:4506 (talk) 03:41, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your opinion. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:40, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

I believe you deleted my draft, I am new to this and need help with my page, as mentioned happy to have a proof reader to check over the post. Yossal2 (talk) 08:49, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

As I said before, please read

WP:BACKWARD and understand what it is saying. Follow the advise in that essay to improve how you craft an article. - UtherSRG (talk)

10:28, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

It wasn't deleted because I am getting paid by the person I'm creating the page for? Yossal2 (talk) 10:46, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

No. As the notices on your talk page indicated, it was speedy deleted via

WP:CSD#G11 as being highly promotional. Please read the notices and click through the links in the to understand fully. Please don't ask questions of me or others when we have already provided you the links that have the information you need; you are wasting our time when you do so. - UtherSRG (talk)

10:49, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I was wondering why you reverted my edit on Grey crowned crane? Thank you. Alanli1996 (talk)

@

independent. Please use ~~~~ when signing your talk page edits. - UtherSRG (talk)

10:28, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Alanli1996 (talk) 00:32, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello UtherSRG, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of

I'm well aware of the criteria. I'll elevate this to PROD. Thanks for the heads up. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:15, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I see you cut out 99% of the article. That's why it was a G11... when that much is promotional... - UtherSRG (talk) 14:16, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello @UtherSRG. I am here to reporting the Disruption of user 122.176.200.137 on multiple pages with Pro Muslim edits without clarification. Here are some of the examples : 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1169665513 2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1169664035 3. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1169665513

One thing here to be noted that I have highly doubt that this account is a Sockpuppet of one of the Wikipedia user. & As per history edits of "battle of sangamner" I suppose it's of @ThePakistanihistorian. By the I just suppose to it. Aryan330 (talk) 18:51, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I don't know enough about these topics to see these as pro-Muslim. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@

Sockpuppet investigation

& please don't comment in talk page of this user because everyone has a right to ask if he had a doubt.

Don't disturb this user's talk page,you can comment on my talk page.

Thank you Aryan330 (talk) 05:59, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@UtherSRG okay,no problem leave that but he is disrupting many pages by not giving clarification & also I suppose he is a Sockpuppet

See he was also notified by one user for not giving clarification. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:122.176.200.137 I am saying here that he is Disrupting pages by giving exact opposite statements which follows same pattern(like releted to Muslim Dynasty) That's what should be noted. Aryan330 (talk) 19:56, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

This looks like normal Wikipedia learning curve stuff. This doesn't require admin intervention at this point. Fix the errors they've created. I'll give them a welcome notice to help set them straight - but this is also something you can do. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:58, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@UtherSRG Ok.Thank you Aryan330 (talk) 12:16, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Aryan330: I see that you took it upon yourself to remove discussions here. Please do not do that. I'm an adult and can decide on my own whether to remove discussions. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:13, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@UtherSRG I can understand you but I had did it only because there is already a discussion going on Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement for this stuff & I didn't want another again.

That's why I deleted it.

Hope you could understood Aryan330 (talk) 13:22, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Not acceptable. Don't do it again, and I advise you not to do it on other user's talk pages either. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:23, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@

SamX

did that's why deleted.

Although,yes will not do that from now. Aryan330 (talk) 13:29, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, UtherSRG,

I guess RFUD-helper doesn't take care of everything because after it was restored, this article needed the AFD tag removed. Just thought I'd give you a head's up and also thank you again for being so helpful on my User talk page. For some reason, the talk page gets an awful lot of traffic and because I have a lot of tasks on my schedule to get to, I often delay responding until the end of the day unless it is an emergency like a revision deletion request. So I appreciate when you choose to reply to an editor in need. I'm trying to improve my habits here as it can lead to frustration on the part of other editors. Thanks again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:24, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I've put in a few pings to SD about the helper, but they haven't fixed it yet. And you're quite welcome! I have a number of talk pages on watch, and, when I have the time and see a need, I try to jump in. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:16, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Qwerfjkl (bot). I have automatically detected that this edit performed by you, on the page Sykes' monkey, may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows:

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Hello. If you move the article, remember to update lead infobox and Wikidata as well. Eurohunter (talk) 15:29, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

I actually came here to option a section on this after seeing that you had removed the technical request unimplemented; while a new discussion has been opened, the request was based on

WP:NOGOODOPTIONS close, to better align the title with guidelines in case the newly proposed move does not find consensus? BilledMammal (talk

) 13:03, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure that's doable with the open RM. I'm not sure what all the bot needs to see, so making the move will need to go along with the additional changes. If you are willing to make the fixes (other than the actual RM itself), I'll make the move. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:06, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm happy to fix up the current open request move, and make whatever changes to the infobox etc need to be made - thank you. BilledMammal (talk) 13:11, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Sir, Thank you so much for restoring my Wiki page. Requesting you to please help me for Publishing my Article. I did research on my Topic Nirahua Entertainment from last 7-8 months after that i send it for publishing. I don't no why my page got deleted. Requesting you to please resolve if any issue in my article. Help me to publish it. Thank You Sir. Awdhesh123 (talk) 11:52, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

I provided you with links to read and understand. I can not help you if you do not help yourself. Read those links. Read the AFD. Understand our policies. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:53, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi, sir. Can you delete my account if I give the details? I just couldn't do it myself. Please help me. My.pulatov (talk) 12:22, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

There is no account deletion. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:09, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

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Please remember that a French-language song is likely to have an article in the French-language Wikipedia, possibly with more extensive references than the English one. Please see fr:En pièces détachées Eastmain (talk • contribs) 19:00, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, though I won't be checking there. My purpose is to get all of the articles that have been tagged for notability since 2010 cleared off the list. I don't care if any are deleted or kept. I'll leave that for the folks who !vote in the discussions. That seems to have been working, so I'll keep going as I have been. I *do* rm the tag myself on some articles, and I'm happy when the discussion for an article saves it. You are welcome to jump ahead and check the list I'm working through to see if there are any you want to work on before I get to them. I usually do something like 6-12 a day (one or two letters) so as to not unduly burden the AFD system. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:27, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi, please consider switching to the new

Fantastic! Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 10:22, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

@MPGuy2824: Um... now I have two "Move to Draft" actions. Might be good to rename this one, or have the installer prompt to go to the older script's page for the uninstall? - UtherSRG (talk) 11:26, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

It does the same basic job as the previous script, so i don't think I should rename it. You'll have to comment out/remove Evad's version in your common.js file. I'll make sure to give these details the next time i try to get someone to switch scripts. :-) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:30, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

@

WP:RFU. However, the requestor wasn't one of the editors of the article, so I couldn't use the tool to send the draftification notice to them. It would be nice if we could write in additional users to notify. - UtherSRG (talk)

18:59, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

If I understand it right, you undelete an article in mainspace, and then immediate move it to draftspace. The problem is that the message that the script sends is targeted to previous contributors: "Thank you for your contributions to X". Since you are already going to add a message to the undeletion requester on the

WP:RFU page, I'd suggest that no contributors be notified by the MTD script in such a case. -MPGuy2824 (talk

) 06:01, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

It wasn't that simple. Another user restored the page, but later I draftified it. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:22, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

The article

 Done - UtherSRG (talk) 10:21, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello, UtherSRG,

You nominate so many articles at AFD, with just a minute or two between nominations, I don't see how you can be doing a proper BEFORE. What is your process of looking into these articles before you decide to nominate them for deletion? Just looking through the day's AFD log and considering closures, it can seem overwhelming with the volume of your nominations. I don't see how you have the time to properly investigate each article subject. My rough guesstimate right now is that about 70% of the articles you nominate for deletion end up being deleted so there are a fair number of them that are Kept or Merged. So, my questions are not about whether or not these articles should be deleted, but the process and volume of deletion proposals.

Thanks for your work on the project. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:50, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

@Liz: I admit, I do only the most cursory of BEFORE. I don't do any searches, I don't usually open the existing references. If there are any references, I check what facts the references are supporting, and check the title of the references. That's about it. I'm hitting articles on the NN by month lists (currently on Category:Articles with topics of unclear notability from June 2010). 13 years is long enough for someone to have given a proper BEFORE a shot, so I'm doing a minor IAR and skipping a thorough BEFORE to get them onto other peoples' radars by AFD'ing them. (There are a few I do just simply remove the NN tag.) I'm as happy to have an article reach a consensus regardless of the outcome, as it means the article is being taken off of the NN list; indeed, many have been significantly improved by the work others have done in finding sources. When an article is kept, if it hasn't been updated since my nomination, I post on the talk page a gentle reminder about the discovered sources and a ping of those who found them.

I'm aware of

WP:NOTCLEANUP; in fact it's been stated a small number of times in my AFD nominations. I know we have no deadlines; yet at the same time, we put deadlines on some processes. Some of those deadlines are hard, and some are soft. At the same time, we have roughly 58k+ articles tagged for notability; tagged for the primary reason something shouldn't be an article. I don't think the existence of articles that have been tagged for 13 years stating they probably aren't something that should be included in the encyclopedia is beneficial to the encyclopedia. So most days I scrape through a dozen or so articles from the NN list and give them a nudge into the light where they will get some attention. - UtherSRG (talk)

10:58, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

I don't know why your talk page is on my watchlist, but since it is I'll just throw my two cents in; I agree that

WP:BEFORE

is just a recommendation, not a requirement - the requirement is that an editor has a reasonable rate of accuracy with their nominations, and it appears that you do have that. I would suggest at least checking the existing references, but your process appears to be working despite not doing that so I'm not really concerned with you not doing so.

I also agree that so long as there are no limits on the rates an editor can create pages, it isn't reasonable to apply limit to the rate editors can nominate pages for deletion. BilledMammal (talk) 12:03, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello

Are you asking me to do the CSD, or asking me to explain why you can't do it? - UtherSRG (talk) 11:51, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

@UtherSRG Did you get a chance to check both the article log?. You can see the article is moved by an editor/volunteer who don't hold any advance permission. So, yes I'm asking and trying to understand why I'm not able to make such an action/edit/move on my own. If you would go through my contribution you will find out that I had to always seek admins attention. Thanks C1K98V ^{(💬 ✒️ 📂)} 16:20, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

And you can't move that page back to where it was, right? - UtherSRG (talk) 17:34, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

@

Sheezan Mohammed Khan. It's just an example article which I listed, but whenever I try to do G6: Deleted to make way for move, on my own it declined. So I'm not sure what is restricting me, I'm okay with seeking admins attention for G6 but sometimes I feel disappointed. C1K98V ^{(💬 ✒️ 📂}

) 17:46, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Ok yeah, I don't know why you can't. Sorry. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:47, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

In any manner am I blocked, or any abusefilter is getting triggered with my edits. Any idea? Whom to reach out to get a clarity on the issue. C1K98V ^{(💬 ✒️ 📂)} 17:51, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Nope. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:50, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello, UtherSRG,

I saw all of these template moves in the Move log and wondered whether the content of the instructions on the page need to be changed now that the template name has changed. They still list using the previous names and I'm not sure this will work now that those pages are redirects. I'm not really knowledgeable about how templates work so many some of the editors or admins who frequent TFD would know about this. Thanks. I hope you are having a good weekend. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:42, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Seems to be working. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:51, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Hey, I noticed you made some

I went a bit bold. One of the accounts was created in 2019. They knew they were doing wrong, so I nuked all of EBBB's creations. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:43, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

I disagree. Age of creation of account is irrelevant, especially given that The Micronesian-Corsican Revolution was not active during these four years. I also don't see evidence that they knew they were doing anything wrong. Either way, that has nothing to do with G5, which states: To qualify, the edit or page must have been made while the user was actually banned or blocked. A page created before the ban or block was imposed or after it was lifted will not qualify under this criterion. Please revert your deletions. -- Tavix ^(talk) 12:48, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Welp, turns out you were right. I strike my request. -- Tavix ^(talk) 13:44, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

It happens from time to time. ;) - UtherSRG (talk) 10:58, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

hi, let me know if this is ok [4]--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 18:18, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

@

RNA sequencing. RNA-Seq ... is a sequencing technique that uses... This (barely) answers the "What is it?" question. Check out other related articles to get a feel for what's needed. - UtherSRG (talk)

18:28, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Hey thanks for the protection on ANI. Quick question, did you mean to set it to indefinite for auto confirmed users? RickinBaltimore (talk) 12:07, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

@RickinBaltimore: That was an oversight which I quickly corrected. I hope. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:09, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Never mind, saw you switched it! RickinBaltimore (talk) 12:08, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

XD - UtherSRG (talk) 12:09, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Eastern wolves and eastern cougars were the two correct taxonomic entities to place in that list geographically. Chumzwumz68 (talk) 17:32, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Please include sources to cite your changes when making them. If the sources already cited support your changes, indicate this in your edit summaries. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:51, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Or indicate with some specificity why your edits are correct. Your summary of "Fix" is insufficient. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:01, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Added sources. Chumzwumz68 (talk) 22:42, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Again, insufficient. You are creating

WP:SYN. Neither of those references mention predation on the cottontail. - UtherSRG (talk)

10:54, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm not adding these sources to suggest these animals predated on cottontails. I am simply fixing the taxonomy on the scientific names. I did not add the claim that the two species preyed on cottontails, and I neither agree or disagree with that claim. Just here for taxonomic purposes. Chumzwumz68 (talk) 22:33, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

You are changing what species are preying on the rabbit. That's not supported by the sources. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:01, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Why did you offer to delete all the registrations I made? Do you know if all these registers have joint references? You are instructed to immediately remove all deleted tags. Srabanta Deb (talk) 02:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

That is for the community to decide. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:46, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi UtherSRG, thanks to you profusely for undeleting the draft on ‘Kamla Nath Sharma’, a senior engineer and writer from India. This page was first included as far back as about 10 years, and has undergone many many changes since. Now, from its full contents some years back, the present draft has been substantially edited to conform to the accepted guidelines under Wikipedia articles. Hope, it meets your acceptance also. I have also procured a recent picture of Prof. Sharma. It is requested that the article may please be restored. Thanks again. Aaditya BahugunaAaditya.Bahuguna (talk) 14:55, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

@Aaditya.Bahuguna: I have submitted the draft for review on your behalf. You could have done this yourself by putting {{subst:submit}} at the top of the draft. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:16, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

UtherSRG I think you insulted all my editing and writing. You don't want me to make new edits and posts on Wikipedia. So you are trying to delete all my edits and posts by adding delete tag. I know that all these edits and deletes will happen. Only because of you I am forced to leave this beautiful world of Wikipedia. I don't want to play a role where my independent writing and editing is not respected. I think you are not a good person. You can write and edit your own Wikipedia. You don't need to respect and help me. I have written the writings from my pain and sorrow. Srabanta Deb (talk) 15:10, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel this way. Wikipedia is a community effort and has policies that were approved by the community. Your contributions must conform with these policies, or they must go. This is not personal. If you can improve the articles so that they conform to our policies, then I would expect that they will survive the deletion discussions. If they do not survive, it is because they should not have been created in the first place. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:13, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

@Srabanta Deb: And I echo Liz's sentiment: [D]eleting an article is not an "insult". If the reliable sources aren't there, they aren't there. It might be too soon. If you find some stronger references, maybe there could be an article in the future. I'm sure that the articles have been evaluated according to Wikipedia policies and guidlines and not based on editors' opinion of [the subject]. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:19, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, @UtherSRG. Could you let me know why you reverted my revisions to the red squirrel page, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_squirrel&diff=next&oldid=1175787282? I thought they were entirely constructive and non-controversial; clearly you disagree, but I can't figure out why.

- It is anathema in biology to say that a trait is "for" a particular purpose. This is teleological reasoning (as noted in my edit summary). Thus, "offers camouflage" (which is a neutral, factual description of an advantage conferred by the trait) is superior to "is for camouflage" (which presupposed that the trait evolved with a particular end in 'mind'). See Teleology in biology for a fuller discussion.

- eastern grey squirrel should be wikilinked at the 1st instance, not the 2nd

- similarly, it should be clarified as "American" at the 1st instance, not the 2nd

- a comma is required before "which", as it introduces a non-restrictive modifier phrase

Thank you kindly.

Gould363 (talk) 22:12, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Mostly, it was the American/Eurasian movement. It doesn't make sense to me to split the locality information by moving only one of the localities to be earlier when they were in the same sentence previously. I've restored yours and made my changes on top. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:54, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Lovely, thank you! Gould363 (talk) 18:12, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi @

@Wafflesvarrg: Cool, but are you sure you did it correctly? It should be pulling up the first AFD in an info box but I'm not seeing that. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:00, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Ok, I've fixed it now. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:07, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Please check at

WP:TWINKLE to make many aspects of Wikipedia easier...) - UtherSRG (talk)

15:22, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

@UtherSRG thank you for your help much appreciated! Wafflesvarrg (talk) 19:19, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello @UtherSRG, Do you have any tips how to get editors to comment on that AfD? Wafflesvarrg (talk) 09:33, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Just leave it be. AFD is a process. Don't push the process. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:43, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

ok thank you! Wafflesvarrg (talk) 10:47, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Have just used twinkle for the first time after noticing another problematic article. thanks for the tip! Wafflesvarrg (talk) 12:47, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I see that you're an admin who has been active recently. Would you mind removing these summaries?   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 14:13, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

@Skywatcher68:  Done - UtherSRG (talk) 14:37, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

		The Admin's Barnstar
		For all your work at WP:RFU, especially your review and assessment of the deleted histories (and related sock sensing!) prior to restoring. Cheers, Ponyobons mots 17:44, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Just goes to show you that great minds (yours) and not-so-great minds (mine) sometimes think alike. I had actually brought up the block form to revoke TPA when I noticed the box was already checked. I would have posted this here earlier but RL interfered. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:39, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm sure I've gone to do something only to see you've already done it as well before. Cheers! - UtherSRG (talk) 11:45, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Looks like

 Done - UtherSRG (talk) 17:52, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I hope you're doing well. Is it possible to undo the page move I made today for the article

 Done - UtherSRG (talk) 18:40, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. Have a good day ahead. C1K98V ^{(💬 ✒️ 📂)} 02:48, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, User:UtherSRG - Thanks for the additions to and reformatting of the AFJ Wiki article. Am I correct in thinking you added "Notable recipients of AFJ awards include Jackie Summers, David Leite, Ted Genoways, Russ Parsons and Mikki Kendall?" As I discovered when I tried to use it, the old url for the association, afjonline.com, is dead. Do want to delete/replace them, or should I? Thanks again! Sam Perkins (talk) 15:26, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

I have no interest in the article. Was just doing a little bit of drive-by cleanup. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:30, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi there. Just wanted to let you know that I undid your draftification of this article. It's been an article since 2007, and per

Fair, though not entirely true. Because abandoned drafts are deleted after six months, moving articles to draft space should generally be done only for newly created articles (typically as part of new page review) or as the result of a deletion discussion. Older articles—as a rule of thumb those older than 90 days—should not be draftified without prior consensus at AfD.[disputed – discuss] Emphasis mine. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:23, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

You were right to revert, but all of these denominations (and more) did exist, but are long discontinued and some are no longer legal tender. Just some interesting trivia :) - ZLEA _T\^C 23:02, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@ZLEA: The key phrase in the edited sentence is Circulating coins exist in denominations of .... Indeed, those used to be in circulation, but they are not currently. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:57, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by "make the better argument" here, given my words had been quoted from the page itself in the very next sentence. Can you elaborate? 2603:8001:4542:28FB:6CA0:4C83:6BDA:AF03 (talk) 16:55, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

It's validly not a valid argument to make as one should make the better argument as you point out. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:32, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

I think you and I might actually be agreeing, but are simply misunderstanding each other's words. Effectively, my line of thinking was:

• Significant coverage "address[ing] the subject in detail" is required for articles. (Per GNG, etc.)
• Under almost all ordinary circumstances, a single sentence won't provide enough detail about a subject to count as discussing it "in detail".
  • Therefore, a single sentence about a subject counts as trivial coverage.
  • Therefore, "HennyYoungman"'s argument that "One sentence is trivial coverage" is correct, or at the very least isn't intrinsically fallacious or against policy.
  • Therefore, it shouldn't be listed as an argument to avoid, because it isn't an argument that need be avoided.

If I'm understanding you right, I think you're saying instead of simply repeating that "one sentence is trivial coverage" an AFD user should elaborate why one sentence amounts to trivial coverage (because of SIGCOV, etc., etc.), which I agree would be more helpful--but saying that "one sentence is trivial coverage" alone isn't wrong, and is completely in line with policy, so there's no reason to list it as an argument to be avoided. 2603:8001:4542:28FB:C4B:E800:696D:62C9 (talk) 06:16, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

It's not valid to simply make the argument One sentence is trivial coverage. One must expound upon this at the very least. There may be SIGCOV in the citations but none of the information was put into the article (in which case a delete !vote would not be justified) or there is not SIGCOV of the subject and that's what should be said (in which case a delete !vote would be justified). - UtherSRG (talk) 11:01, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Good Morning, UtherSRG. I was wondering, why did you remove this user's talk page access? It seems they were getting around to making an unblock request and their chance was unfairly taken from them. 2604:2D80:AB02:A100:B4D8:A3CE:978F:C48D (talk) 04:34, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

I do not believe they were. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:35, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Okay then. It also seems to me that they were a young kid, and it isn't recommended to edit on the 'pedia being that young so it 's probably for the best. Thanks for the response and have a good rest of your day. :) 2604:2D80:AB02:A100:B4D8:A3CE:978F:C48D (talk) 15:42, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

[5] This species is indeed called a "red monkey". I've seen one. Touched it. Very cute creatures. Have you? Or do you just sit in your basement reverting good-quality edits? Equinox ◑ 01:21, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Can you provide a valid reference that calls it that? We do not care what you know, we care about what you can prove to be valid. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:42, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello, UtherSRG,

Your decision to immediately renominate for a second AFD articles which were Soft Deleted and then restored is coming in for some criticism, at least from one very active editor. I agree that if participation was low in the first AFD, it is unlikely to be higher in another AFD coming quickly after the first one was closed. Additionally, since the first AFDs closed as Soft Delete, there has to be substantial support for Deletion (rather than just one editor advocating Delete) since articles can't be Soft Deleted twice. Right now, it looks like the three AFDs I've seen like this will be closing as No Consensus which might not be the best use of editors' time and will also be very stressful for the article creator.

Please rethink this strategy. It's not that I think these articles should be Kept, I just don't think that this approach will result in your desired result which seems to be their deletion. Our most precious resource is our editors' time on the project so it is wise to not overwhelm AFD with nominations that have a low success rate of achieving your goal. I think if you renominate these articles in a few months' time, the closure result might be very different. In fact, quickly renominating an article after a recent AFD closure can result in the subsequent AFD being closed as Keep on procedural grounds although I won't take this action. Just a few thoughts to consider. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:41, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

That's fair. What's a good rule of thumb for time between AFDs? - UtherSRG (talk) 11:02, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

If you are talking about David Shenkar and Benisha Poudel, my intention is not actually to get a firm deletion. These were soft deletions that were immediately restored via RFU. I strongly prefer to see such restorations go to draftspace instead of immediately back to main article space. This gives the editor time to address the AFD's concerns with a reasonable cushion. And added benefit is that hopefully it will then go through AFC and get additional eyes on it. When they do get immediately restored to main article space, I instead re-AFD them to bring those eyes to the article. If that means a keep instead of a delete, that's great! If it means a firm delete, that's great! If it gets just one more pair of eyes on it and it still ends up as no consensus, well, it's not great, but at least it's possibly on someone else's radar. And indeed, one of those article I mentioned has gotten some keep votes, so I expect it will be a firm keep. I consider that a success. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:12, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Regarding this SPI, I blocked and tagged the account myself; I submitted to CU because I suspected that the user was going to challenge my

You submitted an SPI, but that doesn't, by default, request CU. I'll request it. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:00, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Re:Tenley M. Conway moved to draftspace
I don't intend to be rude, but at the same time I think it is appropriate to make a few comments based upon my experience as a journal editor, publication/proposal reviewer and arbitrator, and also being on the other end.

Both in Wikipedia and outside many people hide behind anonymity (you don't). It is way too common in journals to see 1-3 sentence reviews "this is bad". All editors either reject these or get an independent 3rd (or more) opinion.
When challenged, often for good reason, a reviewer has the responsibility to backup their statements, as appropriate with sources. (Yes, it is common for reviews to quote sources, as you may know.) If they did not, as a journal editor or adjudicator I have always ignored them.

N.B. Additional comments are sometimes useful for novices such as the original author of this article. While his 2022 bio of Johnson should probably get deleted (how did it get through?), not this one. Beyond DEI, discipline-adjusted (necessary) she looks like a rising star. If I find time I may tweak it for him. Ldm1954 (talk) 16:16, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello Mr. Greenstein I see that you have deleted the edits of a user in my page without notifying me? Why have you done that?

I think it would have been proper and polite for you to write to me a message? What is going on there? Are you an admin btw? I suspect some user's editing so extremely boldly which feels like they are conveniently in cahoots with each others and edit as if they are going to be covered/saved by admins. After all Wikipedia is not a democracy. Anyone who gets power can abuse it to their advantage/will. Or do we have any measures to prevent that even for admins? Utku Öziz (talk) 23:56, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

I didn't know you had your real name on your userpage. Huh. BTW, my mother-in-law's birthday is Janury 29. And as long as I'm here, please stop reverting block-evading IPs. It's very wrong of you.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:22, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Just goes to show you how many things can happen when you're off-wiki. I find a lot of problems are resolved while I'm not even paying attention. The OP has been indefinitely blocked at ANI as NOTHERE by ScottishFinnishRadish.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:36, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

I think there's decent evidence someone is not here to build an encyclopedia about the time they start throwing the word cahoots around non-ironically. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:50, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Non-ironically and incoherently.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:53, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

We don't seem to have a proper article on Cahoots. Given the number of Wikipedians who apparently live there (or at least visit the place), it must surely be notable, and deserving of an article. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:00, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for attending this y'all. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:35, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

All aboard the cahoots caboose! - UtherSRG (talk) 12:20, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Category:Editors who are in cahoots ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:39, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Is that all I need to be in the cahoots caboose club? - UtherSRG (talk) 12:41, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello, UtherSRG,

I'm not sure what's up with rfud-helper but it didn't make an edit to this page you restored so it showed up on User:SDZeroBot/G13 eligible. Just thought I'd let you know. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:47, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks... - UtherSRG (talk) 11:13, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry - keep confusing it with the Philippine eagle, which is at CR :p --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

No worries. :) - UtherSRG (talk) 19:53, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello UtherSRG:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

There is a backlog of over 2400 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:25, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi UtherSRG, I fixed a bunch of incoming links to

Moot now that Zakir Hossain Raju (professor) has been deleted. Polyamorph (talk) 07:14, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Likely the issue was the navboxes. This is normal and clears up in a few hours as the database settles. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:13, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for working on the Mináǧi kiŋ dowáŋ page. I think the page title should be reverted to the name that's in all of the sources, not the English translation, which is only provided as a footnote in the sources. Per

That's fair. Done. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:56, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks! Pingnova (talk) 20:02, 8 November 2023 (UTC)