User talk:Wifione/Archive 2010 (Mar)

Hello, Wifione. You have new messages at TitanOne's talk page.
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Hi, just to let you know that after your edits yesterday, the article has dipped below 1500 characters of prose and so will need a little bit more expansion. --BelovedFreak 13:40, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Wifione. You have new messages at Phantomsteve's talk page.
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Hi there. The template is actually supposed to be used on wikipediaspace pages. Currently, no pages use this template. There is a problem with the template, and the version that you revert was actually the best version. I just wanted to let you know. I am going to revert back:-) Cheers174.3.110.108 (talk) 21:50, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's all right. Tc :) ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:47, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On 8 March, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Viola Gentry, which you recently nominated. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Wow! ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 06:05, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It says:

Login unification not complete!

The account named "Doson" on each of the following sites have been automatically attached to the unified account:

commons.wikimedia.org en.wikipedia.org en.wikibooks.org en.wikinews.org en.wikiquote.org en.wiktionary.org www.mediawiki.org meta.wikimedia.org ru.wikipedia.org

The account "Doson" could not be automatically confirmed as belonging to you on the following sites; most likely they have a different password from your primary account:

zh.wikipedia.org

And so I can't proceed further.. and when i checked my preference page it shows this

Global account status:In migration Your account is active on 9 project sites. Unconfirmed accounts with your name remain on 1 project.

so my unified login is not completed :( and I don't know why zh.wikipedia.org is not automatically added when ru.wikipedia.org was added automatically

Doson 10:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Dear Doson, let me look into it and get an administrator to help you directly. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣}18:45, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doson: Have you tried logging onto the zh Wikipedia? The error you are receiving normally shows up if the password on another Wikipedia for the account is different to the ones on your other ones (specifically your home wiki, which is this one).

Is it your account there? If it's someone else's account, you can't take it over (although it may be possible to Usurp it, as it's never been used since it was created in October 2007). If it is your account, you need to log into the account (using whichever password you used when you created it, as it's different from the enwiki password). If you can't remember the password, go to the zh wiki, go to the log in screen, enter your user name, and click on "send me a password". Then you will get a random password, can log in and change your password to be the same as the one here.

Let us know how you get on! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message I've sent Phantomsteve a message :) Doson (talk) 11:16, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 14:14, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a complaint, because I am sure you know what you are doing a lot better than I know what I'm doing <smile>. It is just a friendly request for clarification, because I am interested in better understanding how Wikipedia works.

You posted a "Resolved" logo on a section of a[1] where I inquired about the above topic. However, I did not receive an answer to my question, after clarifying it. Therefore, I am confused as to why you declared it "resolved." For me, it has not been resolved. But perhaps you declared it resolved because there is no way I can actually get an answer. If you tell me there is no answer to my question, that would indeed resolve it for me <smile>.

Furthermore, I am wondering if the section I created in this "New contributors' help page" will remain on Wikipedia permanently or be deleted because at a certain point, the contributors who are now new will no longer be new. I am guessing Wikipedia is likely to keep the information but archive it. Just my guess. Am I right?

Thank you, Wifione, for your kind attention. // And Nothing But (talk) 06:07, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi :) I'm sorry that I placed the resolved notice. I noticed that you had thanked the contributors for their answers. Therefore, I placed the resolved notice as that helps helpdesk members skip through some help requests. Which part of the query was still unanswered? Ask here, or at the help desk (as a new query; you're right, your old query would vanish in a few days). If you wish to have the professional background of contributors (even I am many a time amazed at the extent of free work voluntary workers can do, without pay, without perks), you could email them privately to enquire. Given that you are IT savvy, you'll find the link to email on any user's home page (provided the user has enabled the email function in his/her profile). You could also leave a very nicely worded diplomatic message asking their background, giving well explained reasons so as not to offend them. Some might, some might not (they might find it weird). It's all right. Remember, generally, talk pages are not supposed to be used for general chit chat (like what is going on between us right now; lol) but only for specific project oriented discussions. Therefore, your queries might create a hassle on that front. Feel free to write back here, or at the help desk for any additional help. Do please enjoy your stay in Wikipedia. It's supposed to be so :) Tc and best. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 16:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm swamped; therefore, quick message. Thank you very much. Your response was excellent, and you deserve an award for it, but I don't know how to give you one. You say, talk pages not for chit-chat, but "write back here," yet this is a talk page, so I'm confused. Not sure whether I am allowed or not allowed to do what I am doing right now. Experimental neurosis is setting in <smile>. I was not tech-savvy enough to find your own email link, if you have one. If I want to save my[2], do I have to copy it to my own hard drive, or will it be put somewhere on Wikipedia where I can retrieve it later? I do not like to write things, then have them disappear. It's a disincentive to contribute. (I save everything!) More, later. Maybe I need a mentor: not sure. Thanks, again. //And Nothing But (talk) 10:59, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Valid questions I guess. I'll take them point by point.

• Awards: There are Barn Stars Wikipedians give to each other. You don't need to have any particular background to give one; though it is civil to not take one unless awarded :)

• Talk pages are not for chit-chat but you can write back here for any queries on the project.

• The email link is generally on the left hand side table of the page (the third link from bottom). You can always use the code http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Wifione to email me. Replace my name with any user's you might wish to email. However, in my case, I prefer the talk page discussions rather than email (no offence meant; it's a preference I hold while communicating with anybody).

• Whenever you might wish to save a page, there's a
  diff
  method to do it so you can save the links properly. Using diffs, you get a perma-link to your version of the page. You could also go to the History link of the Help Page (or any page for that matter) and save any of the past versions of the page that contains your changes. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:New_contributors'_help_page&oldid=348997206 is one possible perma-link to a version you might wish to save.

Hope that answers your questions. Like I mentioned before, feel free to ask me or any help desk member for help whenever. Kind regards. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 16:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I had last year requested an access to the account creation tool. Administrator Prodego had left a message that I needed to gain more experience. This year, although I've been trying to leave a new request through my old id on the ACC interface, I seem to have forgotten my password. I clicked on the "forgot my password" link, but unfortunately, the email that the ACC tool server sent me (to enable me to change my password) is invalid. Because when I click on the link, I get the message "ERROR

Invalid request. The HASH supplied in the link did not match the HASH in the database!" Can you kindly help me (1) Retrieve my password (2) Get the ACC tool access enabled? Thanks and best regards. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 08:49, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've enabled your access; can you see if the password reset works again? Stifle (talk) 12:19, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Stifle. Thanks so much for enabling the access. Unfortunately, the password reset does not work still. I again clicked on the 'forgot password' link and then subsequently clicked on the link provided in the email. It still says "Error: Invalid request. The HASH supplied in the link did not match the HASH in the database!". Is there anything else I should be trying? Thanks for the support. Warm regards.▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 15:11, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You'll have to contact User:SQL who maintains the system. Stifle (talk) 15:21, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh thanks. I'll do that. Tc and best ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 15:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I don't want to be a pest, but User:SQL seems to have not edited on Wikipedia for a very long time... ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 15:41, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be quicker if I deleted the old account and you could register for a new one?Stifle (talk) 15:54, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant! If you can do it, I'll re-register immediately. Thanks ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣}15:55, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Logging off for today. Will do it tomorrow. Thanks for the help. And best regards. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣}16:02, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Hi Stifle, I'm not able to re-register as the ACC Interface says that Wifione already has an account (therefore cannot create a new account). I'm stumped. Any suggestions? Thanks and sorry for the trouble.▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:26, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Yippee :) Thanks, it's done now! I'm able to access the tool server interface.▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 12:35, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to your question at my talk page: I don't think there are any admins who check

Thanks. It's perfectly alright with me. Tc ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 18:24, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Confirm this is a cloak request.▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 17:23, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Please contact one of us on IRC as the instructions request. Thanks! - Rjd0060(talk) 20:59, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Surely. Thanks. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 06:01, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note. The freenode admins did it for me themselves. Thanks again. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣}03:59, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I was unable to respond to your message or the AN/I. I declined the UAA because I didn't see a connection between the name and

Thanks for the reply. You'll have to help me out here so I don't make future reports in UAA in such cases. I'm confused. The

UAA guideline on company names seems to say that any user name that explicitly represents a company or a group should be immediately indefinitely blocked. I'm sorry to ask you again on this issue but it'll help me refine my future reports at UAA. Thanks and regards, ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 03:42, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply

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Ah, so this is where the problem comes in. I tend to see corporate names like that as not necessarily indicative of role-account use, since it could easily be a sole proprietorship with exactly one employee (however, something like "Consolidated Amalgamated Marketing Department" is more clearly indicative of a role account and thus blockable). We have more of these types of names of late since younger YouTube users have adopted such usernames for themselves there to sound more impressive and then try to use them here.

And really, I think there's nothing inherently wrong with a corporate-sounding username that does not correspond to a known actual business entity and does not make any edits concerning one with a similar name. Daniel Case (talk) 14:29, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree with you. For example, my name (Wifione) is actually a company's name too I guess. Now if I were to follow the UAA policy to the word, I'll be chopping myself off :) Thanks for the reply Daniel. Warm regards, ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 16:32, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure your signature is working right on welcoming some new users. It seems to be irregular. All the wikitext is showing. Hamtechperson00:22, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yikes. Will correct it immediately. dunno how it happened. Thanks for the message Ham!▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 17:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I think i may have just figured out the problem. Try moving the tags outside of the links. That may fix it. See how my signature is converted into wikitext for what I mean. Hamtechperson00:17, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alright :) I guess for new users I've simplified the signature now even more. A simple Wifione would greet them :) Thanks again. Appreciate your message. ▒ ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ▒ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:59, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Owing to the fact that the Arbitration Committee did not create, nor can it specifically express an opinion on the above summary, it cannot remain in the Committee's space. Seeing the recent move history, I suggest you move it to your user space until consensus determines a better place for it. Please move it as soon as possible. KnightLago (talk) 14:15, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this matter: I do apologize, Wifione, that I effectively "strong-armed" this decision. But this had to be a matter for ArbCom to decide, not a matter of discussion between you and me. Given KnightLago's response, above (who is an arbitrator), I believe I correctly anticipated the Committee's interest in having it moved out of their space.

I don't have a problem with it remaining in general Wikipedia: space, most likely at

Wikipedia:Motion regarding biographies of living people deletions, where I initially moved it. I would also urge you to retain the I added, or at least something like it, so as to counteract potential confusion over the page's previous seeming status as an official ArbCom statement. As long as the page identifies itself as containing unofficial comments on the motion, I don't have a problem with it.--Father Goose (talk) 22:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply

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Sure FatherGoose. I think what would have been right would have to include a simple discussion on the talk page, which would haven't led to my moving it back :) Thanks for the reply. I have no issues in you moving the page back to where you had kept it. As I'm not an admin, I wouldn't be able to move the page into a space that already exists (as a redirect page as of now). Thanks again. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣}07:56, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

KnightLago, thanks for the note. I have no issues in moving the page. I've kind of requested FatherGoose to assist in that move. Warm regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 07:56, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I moved it back. Sorry again for failing to keep you informed about what was going on.--Father Goose (talk) 15:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi and thanks for the message.

The navbar code was created by User:Gnorthup and to make it work, just add the following code at the top of you user and user talkpages {{User:Gnorthup/Navbar |bgcolor=#6495ED|inline=yes|name=Wifione}}; you can customise the color by changing the hexadecimal colour code. Hope this helps. I am sure User:Gnorthup would appreciate a note letting him know you are using it. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 13:12, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :) ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 17:21, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good! – ukexpat (talk) 13:38, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wifione, thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, Nameless User hashad their autoreviewer rights removed twice before, and their talk page has a lot of warnings on it regarding article creation, so I don't think it would be very good to grant autoreviewer to them under these circumstances. Thanks again for your suggestion, and I am sorry I wasn't able to grant additional rights to your candidate. Best. Acalamari 23:04, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! Imagine, I'd not even known this. Generally, whilst patrolling new articles I had started coming across this user. Good I posted his/her name on your talk page than on the autoreviewer page. Thanks again. And appreciate the reply. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 03:56, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry about it, and don't let this put you off suggesting people who you think will make good autoreviewer candidates. Your welcome for my response. Acalamari 18:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate that. Warm regards. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 18:38, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]