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Stargate characters

Hi again. You may be interested in the discussion at

Artificial human characters in Stargate. If you agree with this procedure, maybe we can coordinate our efforts, because you're doing a pretty darn good job trimming. – sgeureka tc
07:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

I like that idea. Almost all the race articles need trimming anyway and it'll work even better after then. Currently I see you copying the existing character lists into the List of Stargate ??? Character articles; I assume those will be trimmed further when the merging into the race lists happens? -- Yzx (talk) 16:57, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the copy-pasted character descriptions will be trimmed down to one-paragraph sections (or bullet-point summaries) in the List of Stargate xxx characters articles eventually. It is often easier to see what needs to be done than to speculate on the result, and work needed to start somewhere (I have sloppy-merged roughly 300 crufty SG episode articles and over 100 other SG articles since last October, and now the resulting dozens of crufty lists are slowly being cleaned up). The rest is mostly explained in the discussion I linked above, although nothing is ever set in stone. It's the progress that counts. – sgeureka tc 18:41, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello. Since you're working on the Goa'uld characters now, you may have some idea if/how

Goa'uld). The overlapping is significant. (This merger was always a long-term plan of me.) – sgeureka tc
05:13, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd recommend that the definition be merged into
Goa'uld, and the list done away with altogether since it's basically a duplicate of this one. Something should be done with the Goa'uld symbol images; I rather like the way they look on the page but since they're non-free perhaps a link to another website with them (I think one of the game websites has such a page) would suffice. -- Yzx (talk
) 05:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
For the purpose of wikipedia, GNU- and several Creative Commons-licensed images are considered free. The emblem images can therefore be used in any way we want. – sgeureka tc 05:25, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Are you going to move/merge the emblem images to
Goa'uld characters in Stargate? I'll be off to bed in a minute and can't do much now, but I really think the images would serve a good purpose there (especially since the Goa'uld char screenshots may not be around forever in the current image-deletionist atmosphere). – sgeureka tc
22:38, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Added, although I wonder if it might not look better to have them all together somewhere, like in a table or something? In terms of images these are rather useful for identifying Jaffa. -- Yzx (talk) 03:02, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
I'll give this some thought. Maybe something like
Goa'uld characters in Stargate, and they aren't annoying, so I'll leave that as the solution for now. Almost all Jaffa char sections say what Goa'uld they served, so the emblem images will just be one click away. – sgeureka tc
13:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I have also begun with merging some of the char lists into the Race articles, but I'll leave those lists for you to merge that you have worked on (i.e. the Genii and the Wraith). The Jaffa and the Ancients should/could only be merged when their Race articles are trimmed first, but I am currently not in the mood to do that. The Goa'uld char list can likely stand on its own, and I am making some progress with the Tau'ri char lists and will see where that leads us. – sgeureka tc 15:37, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

When you merge articles, you should also fix so-called double redirects (Wikipedia:Double redirects; you can find them easily via "What links here" in the lefthand toolbar, then click on "Hide links"). A bot used to do that, but I haven't seen it around for ages. In the meantime, fair-use rationales on non-free images do not recognize double-redirect backlinks, and the images are placed in deletion categories sometimes within hours. – sgeureka tc 22:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I need help

I'm interested in the stargate wikiproject but don't know how to help. I'm an avid fan and all but can't find anything that really pops out and says "Do something!" Could you help me?Kosh3 (talk) 21:13, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Currently most of the work is focused on removing excess plot detail and consolidating non-notable articles into larger, less non-notable articles (there are merge proposals and other details on the Wikiproject main and talk pages). A lot has been accomplished on that front with regards to the character pages, while a lot of articles in other areas remain bloated with trivial facts and speculation (especially in technology articles, which tend to be more prone to that sort of thing than most). There also needs to be copyediting to present tense (used in fiction) and to remove in-universe POV. Of course, what would be incredibly useful at any time is contributions of sourced real-world information. Hope that helps. -- Yzx (talk) 21:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposals

If you propose a merger instead of performing a

WP:BOLD merger immediately, you should add merge tags to the articles and open a discussion thread at the merge target's talkpage to get input. I have opened one for the ZPMs at Talk:Ancient_technology_in_Stargate#Merger_of_Zero_Point_Module and stated my opinion. You may also be interested in this and this thread from March when I doubted the notability of ZPMs for the first time. – sgeureka tc
06:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Use of 'minor' designation for edits

Yzx, I don't think that some of your recent edits, such as changes of redirect targets for Asgard technology topics, should have been classed as 'minor edits'. There is not any hard rule about this, though. You might have your preferences set to designated edits as minor by default, a setting I would suggest your reconsidering if this is your pref setting. Regards, --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 12:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Editor's Barnstar
Thank you for de-cruftifying so many Stargate technology- and Atlantis-releated articles. These are pages I would not have been able to edit due to lack of (in-universe) knowledge and interest. – sgeureka tc 07:58, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! Glad to be of help. -- Yzx (talk) 17:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

If you still get a kick out of trimming SG articles...

...the character articles need a lot of plot trimming. (I'll be doing an initial trim on McKay and Sheppard in a minute.) Every character will require different sections, but I've found a general sectioning like in Homer Simpson or Vala Mal Doran to work well. Encyclopedic expansion can follow later and will not be the/my focus any time soon for most of them. Just a suggestion if you don't know what to do with your time. :-) – sgeureka tc 20:39, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Most of those articles are a mess. There's almost no real-world info in them, and trimming the plot down to acceptable levels won't leave much. Still, I'll work some on it when I have time. -- Yzx (talk) 04:45, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
I imagine if everything is said and done (if I can keep up the enthusiasm to get them all to Good Article level), no character article should have more than maybe 7 (preferably 3-5) paragraphs sourced entirely from primary sources. If it turns out that some characters like Jonas, Lt. Ford and George Hammond neither have enough in-universe information nor real-world information to grow beyond non-crufty stubs, it may be time to think about a different representation again (as always, that's too early to tell). – sgeureka tc 07:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

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DYK for white suckerfish

Updated DYK query On
18 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article white suckerfish, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

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User:Ameliorate! (with the !) (talk
) 23:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Shagreen ray

Updated DYK query On
30 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Shagreen ray, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

BorgQueen (talk) 13:02, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Magosternarchus

Updated DYK query On
7 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Magosternarchus, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

DYKBot (talk) 16:02, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Cornish jack

Updated DYK query On
9 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cornish jack, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

BorgQueen (talk) 14:28, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Abyssobrotula galatheae

Updated DYK query On
10 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Abyssobrotula galatheae, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 06:36, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Thaumatichthys

Updated DYK query On
13 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Thaumatichthys, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

DYKBot (talk) 14:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Lasiognathus

Updated DYK query On
16 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lasiognathus, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

BorgQueen (talk) 10:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Sternarchogiton nattereri

Updated DYK query On
16 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sternarchogiton nattereri, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

BorgQueen (talk) 16:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Symphurus thermophilus

Updated DYK query On
26 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Symphurus thermophilus, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

BorgQueen (talk) 06:07, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Redeye gaper

Updated DYK query On
29 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Redeye gaper, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

--Dravecky (talk) 22:16, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Giant electric ray

Updated DYK query On
Giant electric ray, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

Shubinator (talk) 19:08, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

The happy blue ball of gratitude

Could you please add the The Fishes of the Indo-Australian Archipelago reference to the Brachygobius nunus? Thanks much for chiming in on that discussion! --Boston (talk) 01:55, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Thanks for adding the ref. I hope it will help end what is from my perspective a very unnecessary debate. Here's a happy blue ball of gratitude. Don't chase it into traffic. Best wishes. --Boston (talk) 02:17, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Common stingray

Updated DYK query On March 9, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Common stingray, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:59, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Cowtail stingray

Updated DYK query On March 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cowtail stingray, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Royalbroil 02:58, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I've reviewed the DYK and confirmed it, but there is a small thing. The article doesn't clearly state that this is the only method or the only wavelength this animal can perceive. A little rewording in the article would help. - Mgm|(talk) 11:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm assuming you mean chlorophyll/red light? It's not the only method/wavelength the animal can perceive. I didn't think the DYK implied that. -- Yzx (talk) 17:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Spiny butterfly ray

Updated DYK query On March 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Spiny butterfly ray, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Victuallers (talk) 21:30, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Unicorn crestfish

Updated DYK query On
Unicorn crestfish, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

Gatoclass (talk) 11:13, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for King-of-the-salmon

Updated DYK query On March 13, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article King-of-the-salmon, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Victuallers (talk) 16:16, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Sharptail mola

Updated DYK query On March 13, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sharptail mola, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Royalbroil 23:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

March 2009

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, as you forgot on your recent edit to Monocentris japonica. Thank you. --Ericdn (talk) 04:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Big skate

Updated DYK query On March 14, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Big skate, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 18:52, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Snubnosed eel

Updated DYK query On March 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Snubnosed eel, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 07:05, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Snake mackerel

Updated DYK query On March 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Snake mackerel, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 07:08, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Stoplight loosejaw

Updated DYK query On March 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Stoplight loosejaw, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 13:12, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Whitefin dogfish

Updated DYK query On March 16, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Whitefin dogfish, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 15:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Butler's frogfish

Updated DYK query On March 17, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Butler's frogfish, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 04:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Black swallower

Updated DYK query On March 17, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Black swallower, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Weird fish! Thanks for your contribution. Gatoclass (talk) 23:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Atlantic stingray

Updated DYK query On March 18, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Atlantic stingray, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 14:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Brownsnout spookfish

Updated DYK query On March 20, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Brownsnout spookfish, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 09:49, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Pineapplefish

Updated DYK query On March 21, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Pineapplefish, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 17:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Little skate

Updated DYK query On March 22, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Little skate, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Royalbroil 12:36, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Stingrays galore

The Fauna Barnstar
Thanks for all the fish! hamiltonstone (talk) 00:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


What a lot of stingrays. Having just visited Roughtail stingray, and noting you have been busy putting these up for DYK, have you thought of nominating them for Good Article status? They look to me to be in the right ballpark? Or is that a future plan? Cheers.hamiltonstone (talk) 00:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! No, I haven't really thought about Good Articles, as I'm not familiar with the procedure or the requirements. -- Yzx (talk) 01:20, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
OK. Reaching Good Article (GA) status is one of WP's key proceses in developing great content. WP has some
User:Awadewit or User:Coppertwig. Cheers. hamiltonstone (talk
) 02:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Banded stingaree

Updated DYK query On
Banded stingaree, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:52, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Roughtail stingray

Updated DYK query On March 31, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Roughtail stingray, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Royalbroil 12:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Mangrove whipray

Updated DYK query On April 3, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mangrove whipray, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 14:08, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Double DYK for Chupare stingray and Pacific chupare

Updated DYK query On 4 April, 2009, Did you know? was updated with facts from the articles Chupare stingray, and Pacific chupare, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 22:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I just passed this article. Very nice work - please write many more :) Sasata (talk) 16:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks :) -- Yzx (talk) 21:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Honeycomb stingray

Updated DYK query On
Honeycomb stingray, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page
.

Shubinator (talk) 23:45, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I am reviewing your article Caribbean reef shark for GA and have left a few comments at Talk:Caribbean reef shark/GA1. These few issues should be easy to fix and otherwise it meets the GA criteria. Please feel free to contact me with comments or questions. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 21:28, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Bigeye sand tiger

Updated DYK query On April 27, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bigeye sand tiger, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 01:25, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I am reviewing your article Great hammerhead for GA and have left some comments at Talk:Great hammerhead/GA1. I think the article is well done, and you should have no problem addressing my comments. Please don't hesitate to contact me with questions or comments. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 22:37, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Cloudy catshark

Updated DYK query On April 28, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cloudy catshark, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Well Done! ∗ \ / () 12:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)