Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guineans in Italy

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The result was delete. If anyone wants to work on merging some of the content to a relevant article, contact me. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:42, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Guineans in Italy

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more unsourced cruft from the creator that can be included in the target article, Immigration to Italy PRAXIDICAE🌈 19:53, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ethnic groups and Italy. Shellwood (talk) 20:05, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do not feel any need for you guys to delete this article. There are other articles like this on wikipedia AmericanEditor350 (talk) 20:22, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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other crap exists for that argument. Theroadislong (talk) 20:26, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply

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The articles like this on Wikipedia are Nigerian people in Italy, Senegalese people in Italy, etc. That’s what I mean by articles that are like this. AmericanEditor350 (talk) 20:32, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But those articles have problems similar to the problems of this article. None of them have much prose content, and they have very few sources cited. If this article gets deleted, Nigerian people in Italy and Senegalese people in Italy might be brought up for deletion, too. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to let you know that I found information from a book saying that the International Organization for Migration recorded 25,000 people from Guinea living in Italy alone in 2016. AmericanEditor350 (talk) 12:29, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 03:35, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - this is simple
WP:OR from a very few sources. There is no encyclopaedic value in articles like this unless reliable and independent sources have discussed a particular diaspora as having significance. Pursuing this line of thinking might result in articles such as Bostonians in Iowa or Alaskans in Texas. Sorry but no. Just no. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 15:23, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Delete. The only things cited in this article are statistics about the number of Guinean immigrants in particular years and the total number of Guineans in the country, but these statistics are mixed together in the article as though they represented the same thing. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:47, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I am not offended by anything, nor do I mean to argue, be rude, or break Wikipedia’s guidelines, but I don’t think it is necessary to delete this. I believe this is essential information. AmericanEditor350 (talk) 06:04, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I’m sorry, but this article is not worth deleting. AmericanEditor350 (talk) 06:17, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Here is an example of the problems with this article. The infobox claims that the total population of Guineans in Italy in 2017 was 9,604, cited to Mixed Migration. However, that report says that 9,604 Guineans arrived in Italy in 2017 (actually, it has a monthly breakdown which omits December, so 9,604 would be the arrivals from January through November). The same source says on the same page that 12,537 Guineans arrived in Italy in 2016. Hence, 9,604 could not be the total population of Guineans in Italy in 2017 unless all the other Guineans who had arrived in previous years had already left the country. The population/migration figure are mixed together without distinguishing between whether they are measures of total population or migrants in a single year, and those are the only sourced statements in the article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As Metropolitan90 pointed out, the information within the article is self-contradictory, incorrect, and/or not properly sourced. ChristianATurk (talk) 15:40, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Non-notable group; fails
Wikipedia is not a database for every expat group under the sun. Curbon7 (talk) 17:11, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply
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Delete. I agree with Curbon7. Non-notable group; fails

WP:GNG. There are many pages exactly like this about different diaspora and expat groups being considered for deletion as well. The general consensus seems to be that like Velella said, "pursuing this line of thinking might result in articles such as Bostonians in Iowa or Alaskans in Texas." ChristianATurk (talk) 15:36, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply

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Merge-Delete - it fails as a standalone but a summary paragraph of the migration to Italy should be merged into Italy#Demographics as there is no mention of any Guinean migration in the subsection Immigration. Atsme 💬 📧 00:33, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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