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Tim Coons
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Totally rubbish references, blogs and what not, Coons is only mentioned fleetingly in about two, plus most are blogs,
- "Totally rubbish references" is not only your opinion, it is indeed factually incorrect, as there are no LinkedIn, MySpace, or blog references in the article. Also, a simple web search does indeed bring up numerous article references and other legitimate sources. Coons clearly passes WP:GNG in his own right, no question about it. I kindly suggest that you request to delete articles that actually are not appropriate for inclusion in Wikipedia, unlike the article about Coons. Zachtron (talk) 03:47, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry Zach, you're new here, editing under your username for 13 days, and I suggest you learn some of the core policies and guidelines before removing an AfD template and leaving the edit summary "Possible vandalism"[1]. I also suggest you try reading (and understanding) significant coverage means, notably "To count as "significant coverage", a cited reference must be about the subject – addressing the subject directly in detail, and more than a trivial mention".
- "Rubbish references", not blogs, let's see, ref1 goes to an empty last.fm profile page in French, refs 2,6,8, and 10 either have blog or blogspot in the URL, ref 3 merely corroborates the fact that NKOTB were one of the biggest boy bands (no Coons), ref 9 doesn't mention him either, ref 5 is a random collection of images from a Google search[2], which leaves refs 4 and 7 which are totally not about Coons, and where he gets a cursory mention (a couple of words to a whole sentence).
- Finally, please read more carefully, I said "Google brings up all the usual suspects LinkedIn, MySpace" etc. See here. I will now post this over at my talk as well (with an added comment or two). CaptainScreebo Parley! 09:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry Zach, you're new here, editing under your username for 13 days, and I suggest you learn some of the core policies and guidelines before removing an AfD template and leaving the edit summary "Possible vandalism"[1]. I also suggest you try reading (and understanding)
- Please note; I have now added 4 new references to the article which even further emphasizes that the article continues to meet all BLP, notability, and encyclopedic standards for its continued inclusion in Wikipedia. As a leader of WikiProject Record Labels, I kindly ask that you not impede our progress, as we have numerous editors tediously making sure that all articles are up to full Wikipedia standards. Thank you. Zachtron (talk) 05:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh sorry, when I click to Last.fm it detects my country and defaults to French, look at the profile, see the button at the bottom that says "Edit this bio", as Richard says below this is not reliable as anyone could change it and say he managed Motörhead as well. 09:27, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
- "Totally rubbish references" is not only your opinion, it is indeed factually incorrect, as there are no LinkedIn, MySpace, or blog references in the article. Also, a simple web search does indeed bring up numerous article references and other legitimate sources. Coons clearly passes
- Delete. I really don't see any of the references supporting the assertion that Coons helped the Backstreet Boys or NSYNC. I can't find any third-party sources to that effect, and without those his notability is seriously in question. The Last.fm wiki, supporting the fact that he was nominated for Grammys, is also not reliable. If better, reliable references asserting notability can be found, then I will retract my vote and my remarks, however, I can't in good faith find any. Thanks, Richard Yetalk 08:30, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep.
I am sending you to these links there so that you can clearly see that it is beyond obvious that not only does Coons meet notability guidelines, he is active with multiple celebrity music acts as well as non-music celebrities. His work on Backstreet Boys member Howie Dorough's album (for which there is also a very recent photo of Coons and Dorough together working in studio together) further helps to emphasize Coons' strong notability. He also won a Diamond Award (over 10 million albums sold) for his work on the Backstreet Boys first album, so that is extremely notable. Again though, here is a very solid reference as of this week regarding Coons: http://thekaylabeckershow.com/?p=860 The Kayla Becker show is having this national interview on the air next week as a matter of fact, in coordination with the 20th anniversary of the Backstreet Boys, for which Coons was directly responsible for helping to create and still produces music for to this day. Zachtron (talk) 14:34, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Some possible sources for this subject, unfortunately all most behind a paywall. 1 Palm Beach Daily News, April 27, 2007, article entitled "BALL IN THE HOUSE SETS ITS OWN PACE". 2 Orlando Senitel, July 18, 2001. article entitled "SONGWRITERS' SHOWCASES WILL OPEN AT TABU". This one may not have substantial coverage, but does show the tie-in to the Backstreet Boys. 3Orlando Senitel, June 4, 1994 4Business Wire, May 26, 2005. 5[3] I'm not sure how reliable it is. It's a Berkshire-Hathaway site, but seems to be a PR release. 6[4] a mention. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 15:07, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Your LA Times) above my previous comments. I am nominating to have the AFD tag atop the article removed and for the article to be kept/added to throughout the future. I think by now Coons' notability and music industry importance have both been clearly established with new references from major broadcast and newspaper publications. Zachtron (talk) 15:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm afraid that isn't how AfD works. You may vote "Speedy Keep" but unless you get several other editors to take this viewpoint, the AfD process will need to play through. There is no permanently safe article, and any article may be nominated for deletion through the AfD process, although blatantly unconstructive nominations might draw the ire and a block from the wikipedia community. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 15:32, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- And just for the record, this nomination isn't even close to an example. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 15:34, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- To clarify, I think 78.26 feels this article was created in good faith - and so do I. Coons appears to be close to meeting the notability guidelines but relies on self published sources too much and isn't there in the mainstream media (yet). The deletion nomination isn't a knock on Mr. Coons - but just a way to keep the encyclopedia from becoming overrun with conflicts of interest. It takes time to build the encyclopedia and if he is notable he will be in it eventually. --Trödel 15:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- To clarify, I think 78.26 feels this article was created in good faith - and so do I. Coons appears to be close to meeting the notability guidelines but relies on self published sources too much and isn't there in the mainstream media (yet). The deletion nomination isn't a knock on Mr. Coons - but just a way to keep the encyclopedia from becoming overrun with
- Your
- Delete - While strongly worded by nom, I agree this is a delete. What I see is a local producer who was mentioned by a few groups as having helped them and other sites that mostly use the bio from the two labels he owns or started. Need some independent coverage. I could find no third party evidence regarding his Grammy nominations = only self published ones. There is a 1985 article that covers professionals making music at home but it doesn't appear Coons is the subject of the article from the Orlando Sentinel. Just don't think it is enough to meet GNG. The coverage of the 20 anniversary of Backstreet Boys could result in some articles that would help meet the notability guidelines but until that coverage exists we shouldn't rely on self published articles (like business wire) and mentions by artists in articles about them and not about Coons. --Trödel 15:50, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- 2 new reliable sources just recently added to the article are from a national publication and a national radio broadcast publication, completely independent coverage of both Coons and his work. There are also other independent sources in the article as well which are easily found through a simple Web search. Coons is not a local music producer either, as is factually stated in numerous reliable sources. The Backstreet Boys, Howie Dorough, JoJo, NSYNC, and others are International superstar acts (to which nobody can debate), so Coons cannot be considered your local run of the mill music producer in any way at all. He was also a notable recording artist himself signed to a major record label (BMG Music) and touring Internationally during the late-70's and early-80's.
- Also, here is a reminder from a small part of Wikipedia's official BLP deletion policy:
- Objecting:
- To be canceled, this process requires the presence of at least one reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the biography.
- This article now has multiple reliable Independent sources which fully support multiple statements found in the article. This article should be kept and expanded by the Wikipedia community throughout the future. Also, this article is exactly the type of article that all of us over at WikiProject Music are trying to see be properly improved, not deleted because this article meets GNG and is important for classification under the project. However, we do have many articles (unlike this one) which should indeed be deleted and have absolutely no reliable sources in case anybody is interested in helping the project with that. Zachtron (talk) 16:17, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- This is the proper response to a WP:MUSIC). Every article must meet the notability guidelines - when people think it doesn't and the removal will be easily decided - they can propose deletion with a PROD request. As stated above, Coons can't be easily deleted. In other words, because the PROD can be successfully objected to (as you quoted above) and there are some that still feel deletion is warranted (such as the nominator and myself), there must be a discussion regarding the notability guidelines - which is what we are doing here.
- PS - Sorry to ask you to do this, but could you provide the specific reliable sources you are referencing as when I went through them I didn't see any for which Coons was the subject and was also a reliable source. --Trödel 16:34, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- This is the proper response to a
- 2 new reliable sources just recently added to the article are from a national publication and a national radio broadcast publication, completely independent coverage of both Coons and his work. There are also other independent sources in the article as well which are easily found through a simple Web search. Coons is not a local music producer either, as is factually stated in numerous reliable sources. The Backstreet Boys, Howie Dorough, JoJo, NSYNC, and others are International superstar acts (to which nobody can debate), so Coons cannot be considered your local run of the mill music producer in any way at all. He was also a notable recording artist himself signed to a major record label (
Yes, I am aware the article cannot be simply deleted and that this is indeed the correct
- Zach, you really don't get what people are trying to tell you, do you? Your very solid reference as of this week regarding Coons: http://thekaylabeckershow.com/?p=860, which I have now correctly formatted in the article so it's clickable, is again *not* about Coons, but about the BSB and Coons gets a fleeting half-sentence mention. To pass the GNG, references have to be about the subject of the article themselves, ]
- Thanks for the links, but like the links I put on the ]
- The article needs to continually add newer and better references, including more about Coons as the full main subject, but it does pass recently updated WP:MUSICGNG/BLP requirements for music producers, composers, and songwriters which is a major foundation element of WikiProject Music's massive improvement overhaul.
- The article needs to continually add newer and better references, including more about Coons as the full main subject, but it does pass recently updated
- *Note: This is one of the most key elements of the massive reorganization of WikiProject Music and its sub projects. We are never looking to include "local-yocal" or "non-essential" music personnel, because there is way too much of that which must be removed from Wikipedia as we can all agree on. However, key category figures like Coons and others notable accomplished music producers, composers, and songwriters that have direct production credits on worldwide successfully commercial albums (as is the factual case here) are to be documented as accurately as possible and included in Wikipedia under WP:MUSICguidelines as it pertains to their category. One of the main objectives of the project's massive reorganization is to remove fully non-notable and "local-yocal" music personnel and to include essential category figures such as Coons and others that have direct credits on some of the highest selling albums in history and continued tie-ins to notable music artists. Notability is never "inherited", but this is not the case in this situation, as Coons (and also others in his category) are included for their own notability for direct production, composition, and songwriting credits on commercially successful albums. This is why we want articles about key notable music personnel such as Coons, and want to get rid of totally unessential and non-notable "local-yocal" types that have no commercial success of note directly attributed to them.
- Zachtron (talk) 13:55, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- *Note: This is one of the most key elements of the massive reorganization of WikiProject Music and its sub projects. We are never looking to include "local-yocal" or "non-essential" music personnel, because there is way too much of that which must be removed from Wikipedia as we can all agree on. However, key category figures like Coons and others notable accomplished music producers, composers, and songwriters that have direct production credits on worldwide successfully commercial albums (as is the factual case here) are to be documented as accurately as possible and included in Wikipedia under
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- WikiProject Music has enhanced the article and categorized it. The article itself meets all WP:MUSICcategorization standards (BLP and Notability included) and will be enhanced even further by the project team/Wikipedia community under the new WikiProject sub project for Producers and Composers once the AFD tag is removed. On another note, WikiProject Music has many open tasks that we are looking to assign to any interested editors, so I encourage everybody to check the project out and contribute if interested. The project is definitely worth checking out! Thank you.
- Zachtron (talk) 17:02, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- WikiProject Music has enhanced the article and categorized it. The article itself meets all
- Screeds of text, bla bla bla, Zachtron, you have not added one single reference that speaks directly about wonderboy and his significance to the music scene, he is a peripheral figure to majorly famous BOys Bands, so what? DElete, toujours! CaptainScreebo Parley! 18:47, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Screebo, absolutely no personal attack on you at all, but obviously your bla bla bla sabre rattling bias as the Nom shines through crystal clear with both your unnecessary venomous/disrespectful tone with regards to my words and irrational lack of full understanding in this particular case. New sources were indeed added about "wonderboy" as you put it which clearly show more than enough that he is not a peripheral figure as you put it. Also, you may indeed have knowledgeable expertise when it comes to certain topics in Wikipedia, but you clearly are a bit misinformed about WP:MUSIC, BLP, notability, and other inclusion guidelines as it categorically pertains to music, and more importantly to notable music composers, producers, and songwriters, as is the case here with "wonderboy". I would gladly say "keep, toujours" to you in response, but why bother when your beyond obvious bias is clear as glass. No rush, we will just keep the discussion going, as obviously you seem set in your thoughts.
- By the way Screebo, here is an article one of our project editors found from 2011 about "wonderboy" which was in a major American newspaper. I'm sorry, but this seriously shoots a major hole in your "peripheral figure" fallacy. In fact, this reference seals the deal for a keep. Here is the article link
- Zachtron (talk) 06:21, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- This new reference fully supports the entire Wikipedia article for Tim Coons, and should fully end any debate regarding notable accomplishments and important facts correctly stated throughout the article. It is from a major American newspaper, and Coons is the article's entire subject. Thanks go out to the WikiProject Music team for this reference contribution. Here is the reference link
- Delete Orlando Sentinel article is ]
- Redirect to ]
- Comment I have strong doubts about the veracity of the Orlando Sentinel article. Why on earth is an article from 2011 in a major newspaper hosted on Weebly, a particularly dubious free web host? ~ mazca talk 13:05, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- There are hundreds of legitimate archived references from online publications and 3rd party sites of all types out there. The latest reference looks to be an obvious legit reference, as it is a directly linked section of the WP:MUSIC requirements for his category, so this article should definitely be kept in accordance with that and added to/improved upon. Coons individual notability has been well established, and on his own merits as well, not inherited from the celebrity music acts that he has made direct contributions to the work of. Zachtron (talk) 17:32, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- There are hundreds of legitimate archived references from online publications and 3rd party sites of all types out there. The latest reference looks to be an obvious legit reference, as it is a directly linked section of the
- Delete. Ultimately the number of WP:GNG is met when a majority of the sources provided either barely mention the subject of this article or don't even do so at all. --Kinu t/c 07:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:42, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Every Avenue (rapper)
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I have been unable to find any evidence that this article meets
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- Delete. I'm not finding anything on Google to indicate this person was involved in the songs mentioned in the article. Even if this is not a ]
- Delete as original proposer of deletion. ... discospinster talk 00:59, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Lack of substantial coverage in multiple relaible sources. Actually, lack of sources, period. I, too, smell a hoax afoot. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 04:37, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - No significant coverage in reliable sources to establish notability. — Joaquin008 (talk) 10:28, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The categories on the article claim that this musician has won a Grammy Award and a Brit Award. That makes me all the more suspicious that this is a hoax. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 20:50, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I can't find anything to suggest that the subject meets the guidelines for inclusion, and I also suspect this is a WP:HOAX in the light of some of the unverified claims in the article. — sparklism hey! 10:03, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. —Darkwind (talk) 01:15, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Bad Astronaut
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Non-notable band that fails both
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- Keep. Sufficient coverage exists: [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]. I don't imagine that's everything that exists. --Michig (talk) 06:30, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:43, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Billy Frank (producer)
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Non-notable short film/advert producer. Fails WP:GNG. Only mentions in Googlenews are in PR handout from his own company. Copy originates from "cuckoo" copy that was placed wholesale in an different article on Billy Frank, which is a brief article on a former cricketer who passes WP:GNG and WP:ATH. Recent WP:PROD of this one was removed, perhaps inadvertently, by editor who suggested consulting Googlenews for mentions: done, as mentioned above, to little effect. Johnlp (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete -- per well-researched nomination by Johnlp. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 17:07, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Per nomination. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 21:38, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:MILL. Nothing in the article stands out as a claim of significance that would justify the existence of an article. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:00, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 08:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Philippe Marango
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In fact an unsourced BLP, but it was dePRODded by the author. Fails
- Author also manages to keep it secret where she is writing about. The Banner talk 23:05, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - I suppose one could call it a biography, but it really appears to be a be a bad translation of some sort of treatise on an art form created by Philippe Marango that is being referred to as "digital mixity". I can find no coverage about Philippe Marango, nor can I find any on digital mixity. -- Whpq (talk) 16:37, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:43, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Allied Wallet
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promo and advertising The Banner talk 22:32, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - otherwise known as a definitive example on why I dislike corporate articles on Wikipedia. Fails WP:CORPDEPTH in that most of the sources provided are either: self published, press releases or Wikipedia. In this ironic PR example [11] it goes to say how it's been featured in The Sunday Telegraph but doesn't actually link to the article, same for The Guardian [12] and Wired [13]. Searches for the articles in question have yet to show any results, save more examples of the same press release, leading me to think that this may have been done for promotional purposes. Funny Pika! 23:06, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Please, let me know if Bloomberg Magazine 2012, Wired Magazine (UK) and The Guardian will work to establish notability?
- It would have been different when it was independent coverage but in these articles it is clear that Allied Wallet is promoting Allied Wallet. It is not independent and reliable coverage about the company. Sorry. The Banner talk 21:38, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete FunnyPika's rationale is spot on, but even more, the 'appearance' on In Focus is in one of those sketchy paid 'glowing profile' puff pieces you see during commercial breaks on CNBC and other news channels (and is where it airs, during long commercial breaks on cable networks; the claims of it appearing on "public TV" are complete bunk). Worse, Martin Sheen didn't even narrate that piece, so the claim becomes even more absurd. This is such a PR job of an article it should be used in the future of 'what not to do' when writing a company article; every 'reference' going to PR Newswire links and a needless list of currencies supported to 'stretch' out the article content. Completely fails our policies. chatter) 03:48, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. advertising on Wikipedia. When you see "global" and "solution" misused in the article, it's too early to concern yourself with notability. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 15:39, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: As FunnyPika notes, most of the sources are press releases. – 296.x (talk) 22:28, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. LFaraone 13:23, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Little Face Mitt
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Relisting per Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2013 April 10. I abstain. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:52, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to List of internet phenomena#Images/GIFs. The trend of that section is not to make a full article out of a meme unless it has network coverage and/or is a significant part of internet culture. This article doesn't really have either. Deadbeef (talk) 22:18, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - Non-notable political flotsam that washed ashore during the 2012 election blatherathon. Carrite (talk) 00:27, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Merely saying something is non-notable with not a single reason why you think that is a rather unhelpful contribution to this discussion. Using a fictional word to further your argument doesn't' enhance the dialogue here either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Funkychunkybeans (talk • contribs) 03:07, 18 April 2013
- Very well. Clearly POV-driven content in original intent, clearly a part of a partisan political race that saw dozens of similarly dubious creations die a justifiable death at AfD. Lacks significant coverage in multiple published sources outside of a couple vapid announcements published as filler material at the time of creation. Lacks lasting encyclopedic or historical significance. Unlikely search term. Inherently a POV exercise. Fails GNG and the Common Sense test. Is that better?!? Carrite (talk) 20:56, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:WEB. No evidence exists that this is any more notable than it was 6 months ago. If this debate follows the previous one, get ready for a wave of sockpuppets begging to get it kept with little or no reasoning. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:17, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Keep for easily meeting ]
- Delete not every meme is notable (in fact few are) and this one will fade quickly as the 2012 slides into history. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. --Trödel 16:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as far as I can tell there has been no valid policy-based reason given for deletion. A wave at been made at WP:N with plenty of room to spare so the subject guideline just doesn't matter. Hobit (talk) 12:43, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or redirect per Deadbeef. This is an ephemeral meme that doesn't meet GNG just because it was passed around during the election. --BDD (talk) 23:44, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or redirect as suggested above (which are perfectly valid contributions to this discussion) - I participated in the DRV discussion and nothing offered there convinced me that this subject is notable. Most of the sources provided thus far are examples of the meme, not explanations of what it is, how it started, etc. Examples without context don't make for very good sources at all - they could hardly be considered "significant coverage". The fact that youtube videos and twitter feeds (obviously not reliable sources) have been included in the source list just make it even harder to wade through to the one or two articles in the list that might be considered ]
- First of all, what "most" are doesn't really matter. The question is if there are sources that meet WP:N. The Young Turks coverage [14] would seem to be above that bar. The Washington Examiner article, the IB Times article and the Gawker don't have the great coverage but its certainly more than examples of it and do explain how it started etc. Seems like one source well above the bar, a number just over the bar (IMO) and a lot of other sources at least noting it including Mother Jones. Hobit (talk) 20:01, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- It does matter, especially when the basis of the argument for keeping the article has been that there are "25 valid sources, 10 solidly valid". Now it seems we've narrowed that down to "4 valid sources, 1 solidly valid". So without putting words in your mouth, it would seem you agree with the premise of my suggestion that "most" of the sources listed in the article don't do much of anything for conferring notability. It needs to have received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources and I'm not really convinced it has. You are free to disagree - I suppose that's the whole point of ]
- True, but do you agree there is more than one reliable source that has significant coverage independent of the subject? The point of WP:N is to create a bright line for inclusion. It seems that bright line has been crosses pretty easily, I'm trying to understand if you think it hasn't been or you just think the bright line isn't relevant for some reason. Hobit (talk) 03:22, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Summarize, merge, and redirect to reliable sources I would understand the argument that the subject of this AfD falls within the scope of the article Mitt Romney presidential campaign, 2012, as it pertains to the subject of that article's media perception, a summarization, merger, and redirect would be an alternative to outright deletion. That being said I would not be opposed to deletion as the subject does not appear to be notable as a standalone subject.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:54, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Unless the article has been seriously vandalized, I don't see 25 sources, 10 of which are reliable; I see no reliable sources. Delete or smerge per Rt.cowleftcoast. Bearian (talk) 22:08, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The sources have not all been implemented by to the page yet, as I believe it would overcrowd what is really a rather small listing. But, you seem to not have referred to the prior discussion, so I will repost the additional sources not officially on the page that are still valid.
- From
- From SometimesThingsHappen - http://sometimesthingshappen.com/dang/little-face-mitt/
- From WeKnowMemes - http://weknowmemes.com/tag/small-face-mitt/
- From
- From Glittarazzi - http://www.glittarazzi.com/election-2012/113257-little-face-mitt.html
- From DailyOfTheDay - http://dailyoftheday.com/little-face-mitt-is-now-a-video/
- From DangerousMinds - http://dangerousminds.net/comments/little_face_mitt_romney
- Your argument that you see no reliable sources, however, is patently false and I don't quite understand how you can make that statement when it is clearly untrue. --129.89.130.109 (talk) 14:18, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Zero of the above links count towards GNG as reliable published sources, I note. Carrite (talk) 20:58, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- If you are actually being serious with making that claim then please tell me what, ON EARTH, would you possibly consider reliable? Would you like a hand-written note from the Smithsonian or something? It's absurd that you would have such high standards for an online encyclopedia. If those were the standards always followed, there would be no Wikipedia. If you consider NBC, Mashable, The Young Turks (formerly of Current TV), Mother Jones, The Washington Examiner AND The International Business Times to be invalid, I am genuinely convinced you will refuse to accept anything. Seriously now, if you thumb your nose at NBC, I am utterly at a loss as to what you would consider a valid source. Please tell me. --72.128.108.125 (talk) 01:29, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- If you find Wikipedia's standards to be too high, then please tell us how much success you have getting a "Little Face Mitt" article in, say, Encyclopaedia Brittanica--or any other encyclopedia, for that matter. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:29, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- If you are actually being serious with making that claim then please tell me what, ON EARTH, would you possibly consider reliable? Would you like a hand-written note from the Smithsonian or something? It's absurd that you would have such high standards for an online encyclopedia. If those were the standards always followed, there would be no Wikipedia. If you consider NBC, Mashable, The Young Turks (formerly of Current TV), Mother Jones, The Washington Examiner AND The International Business Times to be invalid, I am genuinely convinced you will refuse to accept anything. Seriously now, if you thumb your nose at NBC, I am utterly at a loss as to what you would consider a valid source. Please tell me. --72.128.108.125 (talk) 01:29, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Zero of the above links count towards GNG as reliable published sources, I note. Carrite (talk) 20:58, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:47, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Vladimir Bayrev
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Footballer who fails
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- Delete - per nom. He has not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage meaning the article fails ]
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:48, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Rod Clarke
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Promotional article. His one book, though it did have reviews, WorldCat is self-published and is in almost no libraries. DGG ( talk ) 19:38, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak Keep-- I think ther may be a few things in his career that just about qualify him for notability. The article needs considerable improvement and wikifying. Peterkingiron (talk) 10:20, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: Non-notable author of non-notable book. Promotion and puffery. Lack of substantial coverage in multiple reliable independent sources. Nothing worth saving or merging. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 04:42, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Clarke looks like he would be a reliable source as far as sourcing articles about the applicable subject matter, (and is used in several articles) but as far as notability goes? He doesn't pass notability guidelines. Being an authority doesn't give notability, it just makes it very slightly more likely that the person will gain coverage. As far as his accomplishments go, while they are impressive they aren't anything that would mark him as being a pioneer or otherwise exceptionally exceptional. He has received some nods from others in the community, but not from any sources that would really show that he would pass notability guidelines as far as his books or articles go. Clarke is one of many, many people who have done much but still flew solidly under the radar to where they never got covered enough (or at all) to pass notability guidelines. I have no problem with anyone userfying the page if they wanted to. (。◕‿◕。) 09:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Close now as delete -- I voted weak keep above, but defer to the opinionof others. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:01, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:51, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Italian tuneup
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Unsourced
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- Keep I've added some cites. Google Books throws up a lot of references from books and magazines going back at least 30 years. There's not enormously detailed coverage, but I think if you have a look on Google Books, there's enough to show it's a notable term. Currently it's a bit close to a dictionary definition, but an encyclopedia can add value by explaining why it works as well as what it is. --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:46, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep based on the explanatory sources Colapeninsula found through GBooks. Seems to be a relevant enough term in the automotive sector. Funny Pika! 19:02, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- There are sufficient sources on Google Books to show the term exists, and for a dictionary definition: An Italian tuneup is a way of removing carbon from an engine by loading the engine via driving the car fast. Full stop. Since Wikipedia is not a dictionary, this isn't enough to base an article on. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 19:25, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- There are sufficient sources on Google Books to show the term exists, and for a dictionary definition: An Italian tuneup is a way of removing carbon from an engine by loading the engine via driving the car fast. Full stop. Since
- Relatively speaking, there are enough inquisitive forum questions out there to show that the term exists. Granted that doesn't help it meet ]
- Keep Per above.(Talk to me!) 16:05, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:44, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Michael Johns (executive)
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Finishing incomplete nomination. User's edit summary was "Not notable, extensive sourcing used to hide that this is a vanity article." Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:48, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Some of the information in this article is highly questionable. If the subject was born in 1964 and was thus 16 years old in 1980, how is it possible that he helped formulate the Reagan doctrine? Did he hold a high level post at The Heritage Foundation as a teenager? None of it makes sense, and it all reads like self promotion on the part of the subject.Alric28 (talk) 23:26, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, subject has received multiple mentions in non-primary reliable sources, however I have not found any WP:TOOSOON is also applicable? Either way I am not seeing any non-primary reliable sources that give significant coverage regarding the subject of this AfD. If/When those sources become available, the deletion can be reviewed and/or the article can be recreated.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:54, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Keep There are, as RightCowLeftCoast notes, a ton of mentions in press, and he has a bunch of op-eds in major newspapers. However, the main coverage of him seems to be in Cross and Crescent Magazine, June 2007, where there is a two-page feature article on him (the link at the article is dead, here is a link to the PDF [19]). This and his being mentioned prominently in connection with the Tea Party and the generally high quality of the article overall, lead me to think that keeping this article won't hurt. RayTalk 16:23, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Absurdly exaggerated promotional article. Although he has never been elected to any position, or been head of any organization, there is some notability here, but the claims for the great importance of everything he has done make it necessary to have solid third party sources for every individual claim. For example "While Johns was one of the first and most adamant American advocates for U.S. aid to anti-communist resistance movements in their military uprisings against Soviet-backed governments during the Cold War, " needs a citation that not just that he was one of the first, and that he was one of the most adamant, but even that his advocacy of this position was even considered important by anyone but himself and his publicists. Given that he wrote "Moscow must decide: Is it committed to roiling troubled waters or is it ready to work with the West in opposing aggressors like Saddam Hussein?" there needs to be evidence that outside reliable sources not affiliated with him think this statement meaningful in any political or historical context. Even in this article, most statements are qualified "as one of several", "he and other ..." etc. Indeed, many thousands of people probably share most of the positions mentioned. This article would be appropriate to a political figure of such great importance that every one of his positions on public issues is worthy of coverage in an encyclopedia; for anyone of a less stature, it's puffery and promotionalism. Obviously the article could be reduced in scope, but there would be very little left, & it would be fairer to remove the entire contents from history and start over. DGG ( talk ) 02:33, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 08:27, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
1905 Howard Bulldogs football team
Is there some reason that a standard college football schedule with no remarkable events wouldn't fall under
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- Delete. This is a non-notable season for a minor college football program. The WP:CFB precedents are clear: in the absence of meaningful coverage (i.e. not routine, not trivial) in multiple, independent, reliable sources to satisfy the general notability standards per WP:GNG, single CFB seasons for minor programs do not get anything like an "automatic pass." We do make exceptions for non-notable seasons when they are combined with other seasons by decade, coaching tenure or some other logical and coherent grouping, effectively creating a "list of" article. If the article creator wants to have this article userfied so that he can work on expanding to a full decade of seasons (e.g. 1900-09), I would support that in keeping with established WP:CFB precedent. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:10, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom and Dirtlawyer1. Also spare us from the mediocre 1965, 2011 and 2012 seasons. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per all above. In addition, this article claims that Samford (then known as Howard College) used Seibert Stadium as its home field in 1905, although that stadium was not built until half a century later. Where they actually did play, I don't know. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:19, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, none of the stadiums listed in this article are correct, because none of them existed in 1905. (And one of them is listed as being located in two different states.) --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:52, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:53, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Patrick Hurd-Wood
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Actor who has has had 3 minor roles in 3 films. Actor is young. Fails
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- Delete - Looks to be an actor starting out on his career. At this point, there isn't coverage in reliable sources to establish notability. -- Whpq (talk) 20:09, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete -- Still NN as yet. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:45, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to 2014 AFC U-14 Championship. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 14:15, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
2014 AFC U-14 Championship qualification
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Contested PROD. Concern was Non-notable youth tournament. Fails
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- Redirect to 2014 AFC U-14 Championship - no evidence of independent notability, can be mentioned at main article. GiantSnowman 19:33, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: This event is being covered all around Asia. A simple search can show that. This page does not need deletion but decisions. Decisions need to be made on whether the teams should be red-linked or not. Should we allow U14 teams to have wiki articles? Right now that page is full of red-links for players and teams with only 2 blue links. Decisions need to be made here now instead of deletion. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 21:51, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to/Merge with 2014 AFC U-14 Championship, per GiantSnowman. Ansh666 03:33, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge per above. – Jay 22:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:53, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Rob Cooper
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Subject fails to meet notability requirements for individuals. The sources cited just trivially mention the subject and none of them actually focus on him or his work. YuMaNuMa Contrib 16:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - The article formatting suggests this is a cut and paste from a previous article that may have been deleted. All of the sources in the article are passing mentions in UK tabloids. That's a far cry from significant coverage in independent reliable sources. I cannot find any coverage in my searches although with such a common name, I may have missed it in trying to narrow down the search results. However, in looking over the article trying to figure out the claim for notability, it really seems to be that he is pals with a lot of celebrities. -- Whpq (talk) 20:17, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete -- It is all NN. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:48, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to
Banana split pie
A single mention of a pie called this winning a cookery contest doesn't seem notable enough for an article on it. Sources don't seem to agree as to what exactly the banana split pie is - many different dishes are called this. After looking for further sources to establish notability, I made this into a redirect to banana split with a merger of the information there, as they were both desserts but the redirect was reverted. All the sources I am seeing are either recipes (for a variety of different dishes all called this) or passing mentions, even for Ms Winquest (in a list of other winners, including hamwiches, meringue cradle pie, and salmon cheese pie, which by the reasoning here, should all have articles too...) Definitely worth discussing, but I can't see how it passes notability. Mabalu (talk) 11:39, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep- I'm not sure we've dealt with the question of recipes at any length at AfD. Just going the OTHERSTUFF route for the moment, there's a nice piece onBanana split pie, it seems possible that this would develop in a similar way over time. Mmmmmmmm, pie. ILIKEIT. Carrite (talk) 16:14, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The Key Lime pie article is different though, in that key lime pie has a worldwide identity and is well documented internationally. I'm not sure if the banana split pie has the same identity. I mean, key lime pie or Mississippi mud pie, you have a pretty good idea what they are supposed to be, but I don't really see agreement or even clear consensus on what a banana split pie is supposed to be. It does seem a bit nebulous and open to personal interpretation, which is not really encyclopaedic. Mabalu (talk) 16:43, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Redirect - Not sure why we need to split up all variations of a banana split into separate articles. I can only find recipe references for banana split pie. Looks tasty, but believe it should have a subheading under banana split and then redirected there. Key lime pie and banana split articles are worldwide identities and deserve articles, but I do not see why variations should. Next would be the banana split drink. --FoolMeOnce2Times (talk) 15:48, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Well, okay, let's treat this like any other topic at WP for a moment. THIS RECIPE on the website of FoodNetwork.com would count as substantial, independently published coverage about the subject of the article, would it not? And THIS is the same treatment from the site of the venerable magazine Woman's Day... So you want a newspaper? THIS is an article (mark that, an article) by Michele Reiter in the Bowling Green Sentinel Tribune. At a certain point we need to say, yes, this dessert is the subject of multiple instances of independently-published journalism and therefore passes GNG. Carrite (talk) 17:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - So your point is that since the recipe for the item gets significant coverage that it should have an article about the finished product? If that is the case, we should use this reference from the Food Network along with this reference from Taste of Home to have an article about beef stew. As you can see, Beef stew is redirected into the article for Stew. I do not see an issue with including the information in Banana split with a redirect, similar to that with beef stew. Also, the article is about the finished product while the sources are about how to make the product. Not sure that instructions on how to build a specific "gadget" makes that gadget notable.--FoolMeOnce2Times (talk) 18:18, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - So your point is that since the recipe for the item gets significant coverage that it should have an article about the finished product? If that is the case, we should use this reference from the Food Network along with this reference from Taste of Home to have an article about beef stew. As you can see,
- Delete - Non-notable item, there is no description of the product, the sources are questionable at best. There is no coverage in proper reliable sources beyond recipes, which only show verifiability but do not connote notability. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 21:16, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect into Banana split. Jerem43 is right about the sources. The article is barebones and bald on refs, which are weak in quality. Borderline is Grilled cheese sandwich redirecting to Cheese sandwich, which it does. Banana split pie is at best worth a section in Banana split. That would serve visitors best. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:26, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to WAXy, there's no way this is more notable than a grilled cheese. --BDD (talk) 23:57, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. The Bushranger One ping only 05:16, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Slovakian Airlines
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This is a failed business project, an airline which never became operational (a short discussion on that matter can be found
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- Redirect to List of airlines of Slovakia as a likely search term for that content. Thryduulf (talk) 17:36, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per WP:NTEMP. Has received significant coverage in reliable sources. Examples include: [20], [21], [22], [23]. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:17, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - As boring as this article is and how little knowledge will be gained by having it, it does meet WP:GNG thanks to the references supplied by NA1000.--FoolMeOnce2Times (talk) 15:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Per above. (Talk to me!) 15:56, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:56, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Quick Airways Holland
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- Comment reserve opinion but I am pretty sure that they did operate at least one scheduled service, I will see what I can find. MilborneOne (talk) 15:07, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - Cannot locate anything that can be used for WP:GNG. Unless someone can come up with a foreign language reference, there isn't anything out there to establish notability. --FoolMeOnce2Times (talk) 16:06, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Delete Per above. A quick search comes up with little therefore I doubt its notable however if a scheduled service is found this article should be kept. (Talk to me!) 15:59, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete insufficient sources to meet WP:CORP. LibStar (talk) 01:59, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:01, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Jane Ising
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Previous prod was removed. This doesn't seem to meet
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- Delete. There is no evidence of passing WP:PROF, so she seems more likely to be notable as a supercentenarian than an academic. But a few local newspaper articles aren't enough for that. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:48, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 08:27, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
List of songs with both English and French lyrics
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I feel like this would be better as a category, because there aren't enough songs with articles and both English and French lyrics to populate an entire page. ❤ Yutsi Talk/ Contributions ( 偉特 ) 14:52, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Yet another pointless list, I'd object to a category on this as well. Non-notable list, unreferenced, and very few blue links. Inclusion criteria and the name are ambiguous, for example, are the alternate language versions done by the same artist or a different one? Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 15:00, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete The list would be extensive, if it included every single French/English lyriced song. The first song I thought of (silent night), extremely famous for being multi-linugal is not even in the list.Martin451 (talk) 16:58, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Fails WP:LISTN. It is both trivial and impossible to define: how any words have to be in French and English? What about words that are recognized in both languages, like List of French words and phrases used by English speakers? --Crunch (talk) 00:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 08:28, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Clout Communications
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Subject of the article does not meet notability guidelines and the page is being used for promotion and advertising by individuals who have a conflict of interests and are involved in the company. Tags have been added to request the page be improved but they are repeatedly removed. Rushton2010 (talk) 14:26, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per nomination; using Wikipedia as a free ad host. Google News results are remarkably sparse, and reveal that the various sources cited but not linked in text are a series of incidental mentions in unrelated stories. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 16:46, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as sheer ]
- Don't Delete Would be fair enough if this policy was applied consistently but a casual browse through Wikipedi would throw up many pages very similar but somehow OK. Why, for instance, is Clout Communications less worthy than, say, Freud Commuications - which I used as a model (as advised by Wikipedia editing guidelines). I noted that Clout was no more or less notable, no more or less a puffery, than Freud and others - so what is the issue. The issue is, purely and simply, value judgments and not a transgression of the spirit or academic credentials of Wikipedia edits. Value Judgments bring Wiki into disrepute as much as any alleged commercialism and damage its reputation as a good source. There is no advertising no any commercial value whatsoever in clout Communications or most of the others. It is a simple statement of factual accuracy and has no commercial value whatsoever to anyone involved. Anyone who says that simply does not understand how a PR firms works - they don't need to advertise. Picknick99 (talk) 10:19, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete -- Notable clients do not confer WP notability. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:52, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
John Christian Hopkins
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non notable author, awards are not major, lacks coverage about Hopkins in independent reliable sources. mix of primary, local puff and non
]- I guess I would respectfully disagree that his awards are not "major"; within the world of ethnic and Native American journalism, the NAJAA awards are actually quite prestigious. It is true that, so far, his fiction and poetry have only received coverage in relatively local newspapers; but it is also true that he is beginning to attract scholarly attention (his work will appear in a book next year with the University of Nebraska Press, for instance). I wonder if it is possible simply to flag the article as needing source-updating and improvement, rather than deleting it entirely? [In the interest of full disclosure I will add that I am teaching a university course with a component on Wikipedia, and that this article was written by two of my students for that course.] Thanks so much for your attention.Ssenier (talk) 13:45, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- A google news search for "NAJAA Awards" [24] comes up with one unrelated result. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:55, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- As an aside. I hope that you mark based on the quality of your students work instead of their chosen subjects notability (unless that's an important part of the class). duffbeerforme (talk) 14:03, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The search you carried out had an inaccurate spelling, so it's not surprising that it would return zero results. A search for "NAJA Awards" brought up quite a few - I then narrowed that down with an additional modifier to produce this [25]. They're certainly notable awards. Vizjim (talk) 11:37, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- A bunch of organisations congratulating themselves on having won an award. Which are independent. Put your search thru google news. what do you get? No results found for "NAJA awards" "native american". duffbeerforme (talk) 12:25, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Per nom; there's a paucity of mainstream RS for this subject. An initial glance makes it look like a delete. NickCT (talk) 14:00, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- While a search for "NAJAA Awards" may come up sparse, a search for "Native American Journalist Association Awards" comes up with a variety of related articles.Othomas39 (talk) 16:10, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I know this argument isn't always popular, but numbers matter when discussing Native American writers. Hopkins is significant because he is one of very few Narragansett writers, and one of very few opinion columnists from any tribe at the time his career began, as noted in Sage's Encyclopedia of Journalism [26] (p. 320). Wikipedia criteria are usually good but can distort the argument when it comes to very small tribal nations (Narragansett have less than 3000 members). Vizjim (talk) 11:44, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- It's not a popular argument because it is fundamentaly flawed. Being Native American is not part of any Wikipedia notability policy, he is judged the same as others. I am one of the few Wikipedia editors from my street, does that make me notable? No. Sage just has a passing mention, nothing indepth. We don't treat small tribal nations as something different, would you apply the same argument to a town of less than 3000? To a street of less than 3000? duffbeerforme (talk) 12:19, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- It's not a popular argument because it is fundamentaly flawed. Being Native American is not part of any Wikipedia notability policy, he is judged the same as others. I am one of the few Wikipedia editors from my street, does that make me notable? No. Sage just has a passing mention, nothing indepth. We don't treat small tribal nations as something different, would you apply the same argument to a town of less than 3000? To a street of less than 3000? duffbeerforme (talk) 12:19, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I think you have to define "non notable author". This author has five books out, received awards, and is a nationally syndicated columnist. All of that certainly seems notable; he is respected enough to garner multiple book deals and has been printed in newspapers around the country. If this author's page should be deleted for "notability" concerns, than I am sure many others should be as well. BromoSapien (talk) 16:29, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep. Since this debate began, two more reliable sources have been added: the book by Michael Ward, and the SAGE Encyclopedia of Journalism.Ssenier (talk) 02:45, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The first is by him, not about him. The second is a simple namecheck. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:19, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep but limit the article to his journalism, not his self-published novels, only one of which is even in World (and that one, in essentially no libraries). Including non- encyclopedic material of that sort indicates a promotional intent. DGG ( talk ) 02:18, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:29, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
RecycleBot
This is an
- Comment: That specific thing (RecycleBot) doesn't seem very notable by itself, but the RecycleBot merged into an "Examples" section? —Ignatzmicetalkcontribs 13:21, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep It seems important. Keep either at current title or redirect, with move of material, to the linked waste plastic extruder article per Ignatzmice's suggestion above. Note there is now an AFD on the waste plastic extruder article; these two AFDs should be considered and closed together. --doncram 17:48, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- "It seems important" is not a reason to keep. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:36, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
:Keep as the topic is important and inspireable too. - Voidz (t·c) 20:36, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Do NOT merge: Patent spam created by now indeffed professional spammer. Suggest merge target is another spam article created by same spammer. Lack of significant coverage in reliable independent sources. Fails all notability guidelines. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 08:53, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Dominus Vobisdu. I didn't even realise that this was Voidz at it again. – BB 09:07, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. The articles creator, Batboys previously Recyclebotboy, appears unrelated to Voidz. Batboys soul purpose it to introduce research by the recyclebots developers. Totally different to Voidz's scattergun approach. Voidz's participation appears to be purely a retaliatory !vote against the nominator.. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:39, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:28, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Paul Pacifico
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musician lacking notability, lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. original research. part of a campaign to introduce articles related to The AllStars. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:43, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I have edited the article, updated sources and pictures to demonstrate notability. Whilst there is absolutely a connection between Paul Pacifico and The AllStars, my feeling is that both are notable together and independently. I hope the updates have demonstrated this and welcome any feedback that will help continue to improve the entry. Musicfanlondon (talk) 14:52, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete References added do not indicate any significant coverage. All are just trivial mentions in passing (or just incorrect references altogether, pointing to articles having nothing at all to do with Pacifico). WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:00, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete -- Looks NN tome. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:48, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Fatigue (material). ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 08:22, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Difference of fatigue strength in vacuum and air
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- Keep The main topic is not original. For example, see In Vacuo Fatigue or Low-cycle Fatigue and Life Prediction. The topic just requires improvement per our ]
- Delete The effects of vacuum and air on fatigue could be mentioned in the article fatigue (material), if they're discussed in reliable sources (currently there's a mention of the varying effects of "presence of oxidizing or inert chemicals" and a brief section on the effects of environment, mentioning corrosion fatigue). But this not currently good encyclopedic content: it's original research. Even if it was fully referenced, I see no reason to have an article devoted to comparing fatigue in these two specific media when it could be discussed in the general fatigue article (where will this end - should we have an article "Difference of fatigue strength in nitrogen and argon"?) --Colapeninsula (talk) 13:58, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I have rewritten the article from a good source, so removing all trace of OR and making the above hostile comments obsolete. Warden (talk) 15:17, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment As rewritten, the article is no longer OR, but it is still barely viable as an article and would better serve merged with Fatigue (material). WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:29, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Stress Corrosion Cracking or Environmental stress fracture seem to be better targets but notice that there are three of them. In my experience, the more one looks, the more complex such matters become. It is not for AFD to settle such questions; just to decide whether to delete or not. Warden (talk) 16:54, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete From the discussion above it seems that the OR has been removed, but that simply leaves us with information which would be better covered under the scope of the greater article. There are countless comparisons and differences between things in the world, but that does not mean the information is best communicated to the reader in specific individual articles. This is a good example of an article where it would be better to contribute to already existing articles rather than let the information stay spread out in an attempt to "rescue" something of original research.--Yaksar (let's chat) 19:02, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or Merge. Too slight for inclusion. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:36, 17 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
- Delete or Merge: The article's subject matter is far too narrowly focused, and it doesn't seem likely that it could grow much beyond a stub. However, the content (as recently rewritten) is valid, so per WP:PRESERVE I would prefer to see it merged somewhere over having the information lost completely. My first reaction was to suggest Fatigue (material), but Warden suggested some good alternatives. Regardless, it doesn't seem to me that this article is viable. --Mike Agricola (talk) 00:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Too slight? Can't grow beyond a stub? It appears that commentators don't understand how extensively this topic has been studied. Here's two dozen papers to give you an idea and there appear to be thousands more. I might do more with the topic myself but currently find the stress of this discussion to be fatiguing:
- Characteristics of fatigue fracture of magnesium alloy MA12 in air and in vacuum
- Crack tip geometry for fatigue cracks grown in air and vacuum
- Deformation and damage processes in a 12% CrMo V steel under high temperature low cycle fatigue conditions in air and vacuum
- Development of environment controllable micro mechanical testing machine and the influence of vacuum on fracture and fatigue in aramid single fiber
- Environmental Effects on Fatigue Crack Growth in 7075 Aluminum Alloy
- Fatigue crack growth mechanics for Ti-6Al-4V (RA) in vacuum and humid air
- Fatigue crack micromechanisms in ingot and powder metallurgy 7xxx aluminum alloys in air and vacuum
- Fatigue Crack Nucleation and Growth Mechanisms for Ti6Al4V in Different Environments
- Fatigue Damage Mechanism of Titanium in Vacuum and in Air
- Fractography of fatigue crack propagation in 2024-T3 and 7075-16 aluminum alloys in air and vacuum
- Friction and Wear Behavior of Nanocrystalline Nickel in Air and Vacuum
- Improved bending fatigue and corrosion properties of a Mg-Al-Mn alloy by super vacuum die casting
- Improving Fatigue Performance of CFRP Strengthened Steel Beams by Applying Vacuum Pressure in the Wet Layup of CFRP Woven Sheets
- Microstructure evolution during cycling in vacuum and air environments
- Morphological Aspects of Fatigue Crack Formation and Growth
- Plastic strain fatigue in air and vacuum
- Plastic zone around fatigue cracks of pure iron in vacuum and dry air
- Sliding behavior of dual phase steels in vacuum and in air
- Slow fatigue crack growth and threshold behaviour in air and vacuum of commercial aluminium alloys
- The effect of air and vacuum environments on fatigue crack growth rates in Ti-6Al-4V
- The fatigue behavior of a zirconium-based bulk metallic glass in vacuum and air
- The slow fatigue crack growth and threshold behaviour of a medium carbon alloy steel in air and vacuum
- Vacuum Levels Needed to Simulate Internal Fatigue Crack Growth in Titanium Alloys and Nickel-Base Superalloys
- Wear life mechanism of journal bearings with bonded MoS2 film lubricants in air and vacuum
- Warden (talk) 13:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with WP:GNG. I do not understand people !voting "delete" and going on to say that the information should be included in some other article. Is that not very close to going against our policy of requiring attribution even within WP? The Colonel quite properly raises the matter of multiple possible merge targets. In this case cross-linking to the eventually selected target would work I think. If in any doubt, "keep". Thincat (talk) 13:15, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: After further reflection, it seems to me that this article may be salvaged if it were renamed to something like Environmental effects on fatigue strength or Variations in fatigue strength in different media. That way, the article could also include coverage of other variables such as fatigue strength of materials immersed in water, oil, etc. An article that is just devoted to a comparison of a single set of environmental variables (vacuum and air) is too narrow (i.e. would it be acceptable to have a whole series of separate articles involving various other combinations of variables such as air/water, water/vacuum, etc.)? But if the article's scope were broadened to cover the entire topic of how the surrounding environment affects fatigue strength, then I could change my vote to "Keep." --Mike Agricola (talk) 16:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge as has been suggested seems like the best course. It is perfectly valid to cite peer-review articles, even original research, within an article, but not to have ]
- merge, and consider separating if expanded. The purpose of AfD is not merely to decide on deletion, but to find the appropriate solution for articles where deletion is suggested. This will some necessarily involve the consideration of other existing and potential articles, and an analysis of article content. DGG ( talk ) 02:13, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge: Title is nonsensical, and content belongs in another article p 02:08, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Fatigue (material), which is not large enough to justify having breakout articles like this. As Warden has pointed out, there is plenty of material with which to cover this topic, but I don't think it's best covered in a standalone article at this point. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:36, 25 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:32, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Anukriti Gusain
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Runner up in a beauty contest does not make somebody notable. No other achievements or claims to notability. Biker Biker (talk) 08:37, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Not notable. Grande (talk) 11:42, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Delete - She does get mention in several mainstream RS, but she's most of the mention is in the form of lists of contestants. Probably not sufficient to meet notability guidelines. NickCT (talk) 12:42, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Not notable.Jussychoulex (talk) 17:38, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 08:33, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Stephan Kinsella
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Due to its absence of neutral or credible sources, this piece clearly fails to meet Wikipedia's criterion of notability and should therefore be deleted unless neutral sources can justify Kinsella's claim (literally speaking, since Kinsella admits he wrote the page after one created by DickClarkMises, an anarchist libertarian ideologue who has taken it upon himself to create dozens of pages for obscure libertarian thinkers) to prominence. I will give three reasons as to why this should be the case, although there are undoubtedly many more. I invite those who care about the Wikipedia criteria for deletion to do the same.
1) The criterion of notability asserts that "multiple sources are generally expected" of notable figures, and affiliated sources don't count as multiple sources; yet every citation on this page either comes from Mr. Kinsella himself (which doesn't count as a source, according to the rules) or comes from the anarchist libertarian Ludwig Von Mises Institute and its various associated publications (The Journal of Libertarian Studies, The Quarterly Journal of Austrian Economics, and LewRockwell.com]. I fail to see a compelling reason as to why Kinsella should be exempt from this "general" rule.
2) The claim that Kinsella is a prominent legal theorist is sourced by his publication in the above-mentioned journals. Yet the
3) The
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- I have notified the subject (an editor here) and the article author as requested on the article talk page. I have also cleaned up templates in various places related to this AFD. I won't "vote" on the nomination itself but feel free to contact me if there is a technical issue with any of the templates I added/changed. Cheers, Stalwart111 10:05, 17 April 2013 (UTC) [reply]
- Weak Keep - Previous AfDs resulted in keep by significant margins. This article has been around since 05. Those facts combined would suggest this AfD will result in keep. Looking for references, this guy does get some minor mention in mainstream RS. All that said, I do sorta struggle to find a criterion under Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals or Wikipedia:Notability_(academics)#Criteria that this subject obviously passes. All-in-all, I'd say this guy just scrapes by notability guidelines. NickCT (talk) 12:58, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - ]
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DeleteDickClarkMises, I did not say that Kinsella has never been cited by any mainstream journals; I said that his Wikipedia page only cites Mises-related publications and his own website, which means it should be deleted unless the material related to his notability can be sourced by a mainstream, NPOV publication. (Incidentally, his degree of citations in mainstream journals is very small compared to an average "notable" academic; I don't see much evidence that his work has passed a threshold of mainstream notability. But maybe you can help with that by providing some citations of mainstream journals describing his contributions.) Steeletrap (talk) 14:44, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, NickCT seems to have only (and barely) voted to keep because of the Stephan Kinsella page's past success in these votes. I think that's a bad criterion in this case, since ideologues and sock-puppets were running up the vote score. (You yourself Dick, are an anarchist libertarian who has created dozens of Wikipedia entries for relatively obscure libertarian thinkers; do you -- and I'm just asking; genuinely don't mean to be snarky -- think that could affect your point of view? Also: I see you and Mr. Kinsella are both affiliated with the Von Mises Institute. Would you mind saying whether you are personally friendly with Mr. Kinsella?) Steeletrap (talk) 14:44, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The fact that you believe that the article is currently poorly written is not a valid argument for deletion based on non-notability. The number and quality of sources currently cited in the article are not what determines notability. See WP:NPA#WHATIS to understand why they are irrelevant to this discussion and why your comments constitute personal attacks that should be avoided. DickClarkMises (talk) 14:51, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Maybe a reasonable compromise could be to keep the page but only if the claims to notability can be sourced from NPOV/mainstream sources that aren't published by fellows at the (libertarian anarchist) Mises Institute where Kinsella is a Senior Fellow or published by Kinsella himself? If that could be done, I would strongly consider changing my vote. But if it can't, his claim to notability seems to lack credibility. Also, I don't think it's fair to say asking you -- who created the page originally before it was deleted and re-created by Mr. Kinsella himself -- whether you are friendly with Kinsella and whether you (who are also affiliated with the Mises Institute) share his (anarchist libertarian) political views is a personal attack. Ideological affinity (particularly in the case of a pretty small, tightly-knit political group) and personal friendship can bias anyone's judgment. Wikipedia rules indicate that "pointing out an editor's relevant conflict of interest and its relevance to the discussion at hand is not considered a personal attack," which is all I'm doing. Steeletrap (talk) 14:48, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The fact that you believe that the article is currently poorly written is not a valid argument for deletion based on non-notability. The number and quality of sources currently cited in the article are not what determines notability. See
- Keep per prior AfD - it may be from 2007, but I am convinced by the sources and arguments in that AfD even today. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 15:21, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment - In three previous AfDs, closed as Delete once (2005) and Keep twice (2005, 2007). The last debate is not a strong one, based upon a "seems important/has published widely/yeah I agree" sort of chain of opinions. Footnotes showing in the piece are poor (largely self-published) and not sufficient for a GNG pass without a look-see at the internets, in my opinion. No opinion as to notability other than to say this should not be a slam-dunk keep based on a weak 2007 debate. Carrite (talk) 00:38, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Also note: seemingly self promotional per THIS. Carrite (talk) 00:44, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- It wasn't created by that account, so that particular argument doesn't really hold water with me. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 07:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment It seems to me that Steeletrap is on a crusade against the LvMI and people associated with it. Whether or not this proposal has any merit, I cannot take it seriously due to the strong bias. --talk) 20:26, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I certainly am strongly biased against the Mises Institute, and I suppose that is material to the discussion, so I am happy to disclose that. (To put it plainly, I think they are cultish, ideologically-driven charlatans whose "economics" is just an attempt to justify their ideological priors), and also believe that a great many of them are bigots). However, the reasons given above for deleting the page can and should be decoupled from and considered independently of any biases I may have. Agree with my reasoning or not, it clearly relates to notability and doesn't depend on whether one personally likes or dislikes the Mises Institute. Steeletrap (talk) 21:04, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The applicable guideline appears to be WP:ACADEMIC. DCM's comment above points to publications that are the strongest claim to notability: Editorship of legal texts published by Oxford University Press (1, 2, 3, 4, 5). However, these are not enough to establish notability under WP:ACADEMIC. LK (talk) 06:36, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep – Has produced good books, published by a most reputable publisher (OUP), stocked in large number of important libraries (law and otherwise). In the legal field his Online Contract Formation ("Online contract formation.(LAW)(Book Review)." Reference & Research Book News. Book News Inc. 2005. Retrieved April 23, 2013 from HighBeam Research: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-135655733.html) contains an extensive indexing of laws plus commentaries on the subject. – S. Rich (talk) 15:51, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Two books with Oxford University press are enough for notability. And there's also the editorship of the major legal treatises by the standard publisher in the field, West (and its affiliated companies). None of this has anything to do with his theoretical positions, but rather shows widespread acceptance as an authority. DGG ( talk ) 01:12, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually the works published by Oceana Publications are OUP as well. And the West/Thomson Reuters publication is an important legal practice guide from the major publisher of law books in the US. – S. Rich (talk) 01:33, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:30, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Console2
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Lacks reliable independent secondary sources to establish notability as required by
- Delete, no notability established, written like an advertisement. JIP | Talk 04:52, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Not a notable application, and there's hardly any information provided. Grande (talk) 11:44, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:30, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Subbian Krishnakumar
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Non-notable person. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 04:13, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Having many degrees does not make one notable. Grande (talk) 11:45, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Created by ]
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The result was delete. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 08:24, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Faith McKinnon
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Seems to fail
- We was the head writer of one of Australia's most popular drama series and has significant TV drama credits - look at her IMDB creditsDutchy85 (talk)
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- Keep - Text of article explains why it is notable; that is good enough. →Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 01:01, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete No sources provide significant coverage of Ms McKinnon, so ]
- Delete. Fails every point of ]
- Delete, doesn't seem to meet any ]
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:27, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Brantley Mobile Home Park, Alabama
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Non-notable mobile home park. Its only claim to fame seems to be being hit by a tornado.[28] Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 02:27, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unable to find any sources to establish notability. Doesn't appear to be a notable populated place. Valenciano (talk) 06:32, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete No indication of notability, and mobile home parks don't really fall under the general rules about settlements. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 07:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete No compelling reason to see this place as notable, given that mobile home parks are generally not considered inherently notable, unlike towns and larger settlements. News information on the community seems to relate to a tornado which was not itself notable, and which did not lend the mobile home park any notability. Chri$topher 20:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Chri$topher. --BDD (talk) 23:59, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:28, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Young Spiffy
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as per my previous nomination. fails WP:MUSICBIO. no evidence of actually producing albums, winning major awards. in fact according to the article started his own label LibStar (talk) 02:18, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per nom, borderline A7. Fails ]
- Delete - Full of "citation needed" tags, some of which are the only claim to notability anyway, and the fact that this record label has apparently only signed family up shows how notable it isn't. And this guy fails everything that the nom says it does. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 07:18, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 07:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Pagan ideals found in Mormon beliefs
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This entire article is a synthesis of research written as an essay. The tone clearly indicates that it is written to advocate a position which consists of a novel theory regarding Mormonism. See
]- Delete per nom. It might make for an interesting small section of an article about Mormonism, but as written it fails several policies. Andrew327 02:00, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom and WP:NOTESSAY. Sources are largely self-published and a general lack of neutrality. hmssolent\Let's convene My patrols 02:29, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - It's a well enough done original essay, but it's an original essay. Publish something like this in a peer-reviewed journal and then check back in a year... Carrite (talk) 04:04, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as synthesis and a personal essay. JIP | Talk 04:53, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Would seem to violate a slew of policies. NickCT (talk) 13:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:NOTESSAY. Content seems to be largely a synthesis of original research, and therefore not acceptable as a Wikipedia article. Chri$topher 21:52, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Consensus seems clear after the improvements. (The ref. format still needs some cleanup, btw) DGG ( talk ) 00:56, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nizami Brothers
This article has been tagged for notability for almost two years, and nothing has been done to improve this. If they are indeed notable, hopefully this AfD will establish so. Otherwise, there is little reason to keep this article. -Lilac Soul (Talk • Contribs) 07:13, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- What checks have you made to determine whether the notability tag is accurate? ]
- Keep: Nomination done without checking on notable resources given, notability tag should have been removed. Extensive media coverage. Google. --Ekabhishektalk 10:46, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Relister's comment: Several sources have been added to the article since the nomination. Discussion should continue with these new sources in mind. —Darkwind (talk) 00:50, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. I wouldn't exactly call the media coverage "extensive", but there's just enough of a collective passing mention to keep it above ]
- Keep the sources added seem to establish notability. I've also been bold and removed the notability tag placed on the article, which is now redundant. Valenciano (talk) 06:36, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:24, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Future Cut
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Doubtful notability, are the cites from reliable sources? Roger (talk) 07:33, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete The depth of coverage does not meet You can help! 18:08, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment from an WP:AFC reviewer: See the AFC comments in this edit immediately prior to the post-move AFC cleanup. In particular, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Future Cut would have closed as "no consensus" with a 2-1 !vote of "keep," except that a COPYVIO was found at http://ben-hopkins.com/2012/08/14/future-cut-biog/ . I did a quick check during AFC review to see if the current article was a COPYVIO and was unable to find any copyright problems. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 22:58, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Weak Delete I'm not satisfied that we have any good criteria to judge technical people in this field, but the article is quite promotional, with repeated wording of "particularly for" and its synonyms. DGG ( talk ) 00:59, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 12:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Barra Best
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Does not meet notability criteria. Local weather forecaster. Most "references" are complete nonsense do not meet the verifiability criteria. Working for the BBC does not necessarily make you notable. Not really any other sources stating his notability Mootros (talk) 06:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment References are "complete nonsense"? Please elaborate. These are factual articles and news reports. There are hundreds of journalists and weather forecasters on Wikipedia, are these all to be considered for deletion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.4.26.218 (talk) 10:31, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- My apologies for the non-technical phrase. Most references do not meet the original research; it does not establish any notability either. However if there would be an article in for example the The Times saying Mr Best writes for the BBC website and is on the BBC news there might be a possibility to establish notability. Judging from the geolocation of your IP and the edits associated with this IP, a possible conflict of interest might be suspected. In order to avoid complication, it is advisable to declare any such interest in certain circumstances. Many thanks and best of luck! Mootros (talk) 23:31, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- My apologies for the non-technical phrase. Most references do not meet the
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- Delete Doesn't seem to meet WP:CREATIVE. Like most journalists he's written quite a lot about other things, there just doesn't seem to be much being written about him. I wouldn't consider Belfast Media Group's 40 under 40 award to be a significant enough award for the page to stand. Funny Pika! 12:27, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. While I appreciate the sheer number of references for such a short article, this is still a non-notable news anchor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grande (talk • contribs) 00:51, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Every reference to him I can find has "BBC" in the name. Doesn't meet ]
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The result was delete. In principle, this should have been closed as no consensus, since there is no consensus on notability, however, given that the article was a close paraphrasing of this webpage, I deleted it. If someone would create a new article which is not in violation of copyright, the discussion of notability can be resumed.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:10, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
David Wesley Williams
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I'm not sure that this new author is quite notable yet - there is some localised coverage, but I don't see that he passes
]- Keep: while this isn't a strong keep, I do feel that the author scrapes by criterion four of WP:AUTHOR due to both reviews of the book and an article about the individual. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:54, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Fails WP:BK. The smattering of reviews he's received don't amount to much, and neither does Publishers Weekly, which reviews most books by rote. Qworty (talk) 05:53, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Weak delete. A bit under the bar of WP:AUTHOR, and his book itself doesn't seem notable enough to save him. Deadbeef (talk) 03:18, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete. As Deadbeef said, he's not quite there yet. Grande (talk) 11:52, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Obviously this article needs work but the person in question does meet WP:AUTHOR as he did create a significant novel as listed at the end of the article. He is also a sports news editor at a significant newspaper in Memphis, TN which also meets WP:AUTHOR. Inomyabcs (talk) 18:38, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:25, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Clegg Hoyt
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An actor with mostly minor roles; only one recurring TV role, as Mac in Dr. Kildare, and that only in six episodes. Fails
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