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Music by century

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:33, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I'd like to understand the Wikipedia category system but there is this part of it which confuses me and i havn't found an explanation. There is the category tree "<Topic> by *Time*" and "*Time* by <Topic>", yet for me they are all the same! The two given cats are just examples, you can compare several others:
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Category:Monasteries of canonesses regular

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:32, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Usage in the main article
Canonesses Regular, which is a redirect target, is both words are capitalized. Not doing as a speedy since I don't know which is correct. Also if renamed, some articles probably need to be removed since it is not clear that they really fall into this grouping. Then there is a question from some articles about how defining this is, so deletion is potentially on the table. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:27, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Colorado Territory

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The result of the discussion was: Rename/Split noting also this CFD. Timrollpickering (talk) 08:50, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: Categories should be historically accurate, and Colorado Territory existed from 1861-(August) 1876. Some of the 1876/1870s members should be split manually. Depending on the outcome of this discussion, these might need to be renamed Category:1861 establishments in the Colorado Territory, etc. Kennethaw88 • talk 18:16, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I created a bunch of these for Washington Territory. You'll also need to create the parent, event by year and years in terrority and populate that joy. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:02, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, but to in the as proper English. Vegaswikian (talk) 16:21, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. Use of a "the" is not necessary when referring to U.S. territories. You'll find them referred to both with and without the the" in running text in sources. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:06, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. There is no reason to use "the", it is pretensious sounding and not common practice in English. Use of "the" before any place name is becoming less common. Historically "the" plus "place name" plus "territory" was not a reference to the formal government territories we are invoking here, but to much fuzzier areas that Anglo-American settlers were moving to in their western migration. In fact, I would argue that "the Colorado Territory" sounds like an invocation of the common speech of those rushing to the gold mines in 1870. Common name does not mean we use the wording preferred by the speakers in a place at a given time, it means we use the wording most often used in reliable sources published on the subject today. Those will generally not use the before Colorado Territory.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:23, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Toxic metal poisoning

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Toxic effects of metals. Bluerasberry, I acknowledge that there is a backlog and that you have acted in good faith, but please do not prejudge CfD discussions by emptying categories before closure; this is considered "out of process", and makes it harder for editors or closers to assess the proposals and arguments. – Fayenatic London 21:24, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "Toxic metal" is not a real term. If metal poisons, then it is toxic, so just saying "metal poisoning" is enough and to add "toxic" to that is redundant. I searched PubMed and it seems that "toxic metal poisoning" is not something described in literature. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:17, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Kennethaw88 Yes, that should be merged to whatever this category is. Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_July_3#Category:Dietary_mineral_toxicity Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:15, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I merged all the items in that category to Category:Toxic effects of metals, and think that category should now redirect here. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:34, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • New proposal Merge all of these concepts to
    Metal poisoning to metal toxicity per Johnbod's suggestion above, and merged all the metal poisoning and toxicity categories to this established category which was not raised in previous discussion. I think this settles everything and synchronizes it with an existing term. I move to close this. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:22, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Category:University of Puerto Rico system

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:27, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I see that this was once speedied and opposed for some reason, so I'm taking it here. There is no need for the word "system." Main article
talk) 14:31, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Matsu Takako albums

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:03, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per
WP:SUR, names of all Japanese people born after 1885 should follow the FirstName SecondName format. Matsu is the artist's second name and Takako her first, so the category should be Takako Matsu albums. Ryoga (talk) 12:47, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Caraş-Severin County geography stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:31, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. All articles moved to the correctly named category. There is no reason to keep this soft-redirect stub category. The template will direct articles to the proper category. Dawynn (talk) 12:18, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tunceli Province geography stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:30, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. See
Dersim Province#History. As of March of this year, the Turkish government renamed this province. All articles have been moved to Category:Dersim Province geography stubs, and there is no reason to keep a stub category under the historic name. Dawynn (talk) 12:16, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Aghlabid emirs

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:29, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The "Aghlabid emirs" were emirs of/in Ifriqiya as successors to the caliph-appointed governors, not emirs "of the Aghlabids". Constantine ✍ 08:38, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sikh Gems

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:02, 20 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Being a "Gem" is not a defining characteristics of the people listed in this cat. It is not some kind of official award or recognition by some authority. Most of the source are those which mirror wikipedia content. Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 05:27, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete If this is to be a category, the designation "Sikh Gem" would need to be proven to exist, which it has not been. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:20, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete Wow, this has been around since 2008. CFD denizens, you're slacking! Completely unsourced, I have no idea what a Sikh gem is or how someone becomes one. Unless some significant sourcing can be provided and a head article conceivably written, delete.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 16:23, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete It appears to be a very subjective collection of who edited which Wikipedia bio and added this category. Surprised it stayed on here for so long, and the inconsistency shows. —SpacemanSpiff 17:58, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Citizens for European Development of Bulgaria politicians

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 21:52, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I'm fixing a broken nomination originally placed at redirects for discussion. I have no opinion personally. Original rationale: "Also this should be removed, article was moved to Category:GERB politicians". I don't know who nominated as it was not signed. Ego White Tray (talk) 04:07, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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