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On 1 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Al-Fa'iz bi-Nasr Allah, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Fatimid boy caliph al-Fa'iz bi-Nasr Allah was raised to the throne by the vizier, who had killed his father and uncles? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Al-Fa'iz bi-Nasr Allah. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Al-Fa'iz bi-Nasr Allah), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article

Category:Türgesh rulers has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:07, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rulers of the Bosporan Kingdom has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:47, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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On 9 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Capture of Lemnos, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during the First Balkan War, the capture of Lemnos by the Greek navy enabled it to blockade the Dardanelles? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Capture of Lemnos (1912). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Capture of Lemnos), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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I have this source https://www.goodreads.com/ar/book/show/16173234 please check it Samira819 (talk) 15:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:RS, and not bothering to properly insert the info into the article, rather just dumping it anywhere. Constantine ✍ 15:13, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply

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sorry for misunderstanding you but how do I improve my writings Samira819 (talk) 16:37, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article Daoud ibn al-Adid you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Daoud ibn al-Adid for comments about the article, and Talk:Daoud ibn al-Adid/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of AhmadLX -- AhmadLX (talk) 22:42, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I noticed you've changed links from [[Constantinople]] to [[Istanbul|Constantinople]] in many lists of ship launches. If the List is 1922 or earlier, this in incorrect, as Istanbul did not exist then. Please revert your edits. Mjroots (talk) 06:34, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Ottoman Constantinople article, it redirects to Istanbul. Thus when linking the city in an Ottoman context, it is a common practice to use [[Istanbul|Constantinople]]. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 07:24, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply

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The Constantinople article states "This article is about the historical city from 330 to 1922". As such, linking to it is correct, is it not? Mjroots (talk) 07:27, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mjroots: It doesn't cover the entire period though; it merely has a brief section on the almost five centuries of the Ottoman period at the very end, due to the name being the same. The current consensus, such as it is, can be found at Talk:Constantinople#RFC_on_whether_to_change_the_end_date_of_this_article_to_1930. Constantine ✍ 07:33, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, Cplakidas! The article you nominated, Battle of Saseno, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:14, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for the article, introduced (in 2020): "Al-Hafiz was the eleventh Fatimid caliph, and the last to actually exercise any power. His accession was disputed, and his reign was tumultuous to say the least, with even his sons turning on him and one another in pursuit of power. This is my first Fatimid caliphal biography FAC, and hopefully not the last. I think it is as comprehensive as it can get, and have tried to present the complex circumstances of rise to the throne as well as I could, given that the modern sources are often themselves contradictory in their assertions." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:53, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On 14 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Al-Adid, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the last Fatimid caliph, al-Adid, came to the throne as a child, was dominated by his viziers, and died a few days after Saladin abolished the Fatimid regime? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Al-Adid. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Al-Adid), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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The article Battle of Nicopolis (1798) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Battle of Nicopolis (1798) for comments about the article, and Talk:Battle of Nicopolis (1798)/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:41, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've always appreciated your work, especially since we overlap on some areas of interest. But I think that it might be helpful to give back a little by reviewing some GANs. Your high-quality work has been recognized by the time and effort of other editors at the GA level and I think that it might be time to start evening that balance out. This is not any sort of attempt at soliciting reviews of my own nominations and I'd specifically ask that you not review any of them. There are plenty of other noms that I suspect that you could do an excellent job on, even if you're not a subject-matter expert on any of them. I've done plenty of reviews where the bulk of my attention has been on images and prose because I don't know much about the subject. That's OK because the bar for GA quality isn't all that high. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:57, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Cplakidas. Reading the article you wrote, Andreas Tzimas, I saw his mother was from Moscopole, so I wanted to add Tzimas at Moscopole#Notable people for having roots from there. However this information is not referenced in the article and I couldn't find any sources regarding this. I could also not find Ourania Alvanou in any academic sources, searching her name both in the Latin and Greek alphabets. Where did you find this info? Could you add a source to the article? Thank you. Super Ψ Dro 21:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for bothering you, in the end I was able to find a source for this. Though I still removed the name Ourania Alvanou. Super Ψ Dro 21:38, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Super Dromaeosaurus: Hi, no worries. I don't remember where I found that, quite likely it was an offline source. Goes to show that one ought to cite things properly right away... Constantine ✍ 07:47, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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On 8 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Abbas ibn Abi al-Futuh, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Abbas ibn Abi al-Futuh was a Zirid prince who became a vizier of the Fatimid Caliphate after assassinating his stepfather, and was overthrown after murdering caliph al-Zafir? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Abbas ibn Abi al-Futuh. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Abbas ibn Abi al-Futuh), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Aoidh (talk) 00:03, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article Al-Amir bi-Ahkam Allah you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Al-Amir bi-Ahkam Allah for comments about the article, and Talk:Al-Amir bi-Ahkam Allah/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Al Ameer son -- Al Ameer son (talk) 16:03, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering why you deleted the Arabic version of his name? It's standard practice to include these things. I had changed the initial name because that was the version in the wikilink and that is his name proper according to modern naming conventions. Ogress 17:52, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ogress: ﺍﻟﻌﺒﺎﺱ ﺑﻦ ﺍﺑﻲ ﺍﻟﻔﺘﻮﺡ is 'al-Abbas ibn Abi al-Futuh'. It includes the definite article, but does not include the kunya nor the nisba. As such it does not correspond to the strictly transliterated form provided, namely ʿAbbās ibn Abī al-Futūḥ "al-Ṣinhājī". I intended to re-add a corrected/full form of the Arabic name yesterday, but did not have the time. It is done now. Apologies for the confusion. Constantine ✍ 10:51, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

no worries, it wasn't urgent, i was just trying to clarify your objections to the page edits Ogress 11:50, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Constantine, hope you doing well. Would you be interested in reviewing Urwa ibn al-Zubayr GAN? If you are busy or just not interested in the topic, that's no problem, just ignore. Thanks. AhmadLX-(Wikiposta) 21:24, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi AhmadLX, I am well, thanks, hopefully you too. I'll gladly take this on, even though I am a bit overwhelmed with reviews atm. Will likely be a few days, though, before I get around to it. Constantine ✍ 21:36, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm good too, thanks. Yes no hurry, take your time. I will do some tweaks in the meantime. AhmadLX-(Wikiposta) 19:46, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, Cplakidas! The article you nominated, Al-Musta'li, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Cplakidas. This is a courtesy notice that the copy edit you requested for Arab–Khazar wars at the Guild of Copy Editors requests page is now complete. All feedback welcome! Good luck with FA and all the best, Miniapolis 18:49, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On 30 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Battle of Nicopolis (1798), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during the Battle of Nicopolis in 1798, Revolutionary French troops placed their artillery on top of an ancient burial mound? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Nicopolis (1798). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Battle of Nicopolis (1798)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Thank you for creating and expanding this important article. Do you intend to write the Hungarian part of his life in the future? If not, I will gladly expand the article, because he was one of the central figures in Hungarian domestic politics in the last decade of the 13th century. Norden1990 (talk) 15:21, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Norden1990, thanks a lot. Yes, will at least include what the DBI article has to say today or tomorrow. You are more than welcome to flesh it out with more sources once this is done, as this is not my area of expertise. Constantine ✍ 15:44, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I see from elsewhere that you're rather busy in real life, so please don't take this as anything more than a heads up: I just thought this article, which I've nominated at FAC, might be up your street. Greek archaeology meets the War of Independence meets dynamite-induced near-death experiences... UndercoverClassicist (talk) 11:05, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On 10 May 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Al-Amir bi-Ahkam Allah, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that medieval Muslim historians blamed al-Amir bi-Ahkam Allah for the loss of much of Palestine to the crusaders but, in reality, he played no role in the Fatimid government during that period? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Al-Amir bi-Ahkam Allah. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Al-Amir bi-Ahkam Allah), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Aoidh (talk) 00:03, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you Albertatiran, much appreciated. It is a joy to review such well-written articles, and work with such earnest and dedicated editors! Constantine ✍ 16:29, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, some time ago I made an edit to the Greek President's Wikipedia page, specifically where I have labeled the Speaker of the Hellenic Parliament as the Greek President's "deputy", but you seem to disagree stating that it is "Not vandalism; the Speaker is not the President's deputy". Let me explain the following: the dictionary definition of a "deputy" is "someone appointed as the substitute of another, and empowered to act for them, in their name or their behalf" and the Speaker of the Hellenic Parliament fits that description as the constitutional substitute for the Greek President as per Article 34 of the Greek Constitution which states that the Parliament Speaker becomes Acting President during both temporary and absolute absences of the President of Greece. Let me explain the following: The role of a deputy of a country's President varies by jurisdiction, Wikipedians at the very least define three basic categories of deputies to a country's President: first is the category of "Vice President" which is a standalone office existing for deputizing or replacing a President, second is the category of "Designated Acting President" which is a person that deputizes or replaces a President by holding another separate office, and third is the category of "Presidential Commission" (like the one in Ireland) which is essentially a collective version of a Designated Acting President (Note: this of course excludes countries whose Presidents have no deputies or assigned substitutes and instead a new President or Acting President has to be elected or appointed immediately, such as in the case of the President of Ethiopia). In a number of jurisdictions where there is a Vice President (such as the U.S. and Brazilian Vice Presidents), the Vice President usually becomes "Acting President" (where they are just temporarily assuming the duties and powers of the presidency of their countries when the official President is not available and do not assume the full Office of President in their own right) during temporary absences and become the "Official" President during absolute absences (meaning they are now officially occupying the Office of President for the remainder of the "original" President's term). However, some Vice Presidents (such as the Vice President of India) and most Designated Acting Presidents are usually only assigned by the local constitutions to serve as "Acting President" until a new "Official" President can be elected as soon as possible in case of absolute absence, but are also assigned to become "Acting President" during temporary absences (such as travel, illness, etc.) and even during certain occasions they might not assume all powers and duties of the country's President, but instead "deputise" for the President by performing on the President's behalf merely tasks that require the President's physical presence, such as the signing of documents. So the Speaker of the Hellenic Parliament is the constitutional deputy of the Greek President in that sense of the word. Belson 303 (talk) 14:41, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Belson 303. You are right that the Speaker is constitutionally envisaged as his substitute, as 'acting president', as you state, in very exceptional cases. But this has been invoked only once in the history of the office, and is meant to avoid a constitutional deadlock until a new president is chosen. If anyone not aware of the details sees this in the infobox, the immediate, naive reading is likely that the Speaker is a sort of vice-president or permanent deputy. You yourself had to write a wall of text explaining the various cases and the fine differences between them; as a rule, when you have to do that, then whatever it is about does not belong to the very simplistic format of an infobox. Constantine ✍ 14:51, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you are right, the latest Speaker to serve as Acting President of Greece was

Constantine Karamanlis. The controversy was mostly over the matter whether his duties as Speaker should be suspended during his tenure as Acting President (10–30 March 1985) and if he was eligible to vote in the election of the new President. But I also want to tell you the purpose of any President's "deputy" is to address the issue of "if the President leaves office (death, resignation, impeachment, etc.) before the intended expiry of the presidential term, who should become the President (or at the very least exercise the President's role, duties, and powers)?" Belson 303 (talk) 17:33, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply

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This should definitely be in the article, but not necessarily in the infobox, if it can lead to false conclusions through a superficial reading. And it most likely will. This is common practice for inclusion in infoboxes: keep it simple, and if it is ambiguous, rely on the relevant section in the article. Constantine ✍ 18:19, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, I just added a "Succession" section on the the Greek President's Wikipedia page. Belson 303 (talk) 19:39, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I enjoy catching up on the gossip of, like, 1300s Venice through your biography contributions that appear in New articles. Keep up the good work. jengod (talk) 04:43, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your kind words Jengod! If anything is unclear in these articles, feel free to contact me. Constantine ✍ 19:48, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello - following a 'copyedit' request, I recently completed an overhaul of the London Protocol (1830) page that you first created many years ago. This was a very useful history lesson for me, but I hope I haven't introduced any errors. If you do have a moment and want to scan this, I'd be very grateful. Thank you Chaiten1 (talk) 13:54, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot Chaiten1, will have a look as soon as I am able to. Constantine ✍ 19:49, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:N: I suspect that these clashes are, though not invented, much exaggerated. I will have a look at the Greek sources to see if they mention anything... Constantine ✍ 05:19, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply

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On 31 May 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Angelo Emo, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Venetian admiral Angelo Emo invented floating artillery batteries on rafts during his campaign against the Beylik of Tunis? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Angelo Emo. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Angelo Emo), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Thank you today for Al-Adid, "about the last Fatimid caliph, who came to the throne as a child and died at the age of twenty, in 1171. He was mostly a puppet ruler, while military strongmen vied for the vizierate, and Egypt was threatened by both the Crusaders and the Zengids of Syria. His last vizier was none other than Saladin, who over time dismantled the Fatimid caliphate and its Isma'ili institutions and after al-Adid's death established the Sunni Ayyubid dynasty, under himself. I have written the article from almost scratch over the last few years as part of an effort to eventually bring all Fatimid caliphs to FA, and it passed GA in February. It is a fairly comprehensive account of al-Adid's reign, though not as much of al-Adid himself, as he only appears intermittently on the scene during this time."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! With the summer coming to an end, I hope things have been going well for you. At long last,

Thank you, Constantine. Much appreciated. Then I'll submit this for review around mid-September. (I've been doing alight too, thanks!) Albertatiran (talk) 11:17, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I thank you both for taking time. Albertatiran I think we put a note here before the nomination to make sure Cplakidas is ready.Ghazaalch (talk) 06:09, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Constantine, would this be a good time to nominate Musa al-Kazim for GA? Let me know! :) Courtesy ping: Ghazaalch Albertatiran (talk) 15:25, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Albertatiran and Ghazaalch, I am ready to review :) Constantine ✍ 15:39, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It's all yours now! Albertatiran (talk) 15:47, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Constantine, no rush, but I'd like to put this article up at

Hi Dank, sure, late October would be fine for me as well! Thanks, Constantine ✍ 10:27, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I wanted to make a few comments about the "conquest of Morea" that you just added. The current untranslated version of the page is available on the Turkish wiki. (https://tr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mora_Seferi_(1460)#:~:text=1460'ta%20ger%C3%A7ekle%C5%9Fen%20Mora%20Seferi,d%C3%BCzenledi%C4 %9Fi%20two%20soldier%C3%AE%20movement%C3%A2t%C4%B1n%20the second.&text=Sure%2) I wanted to inform you about this, so was there a need for a new page?

And can we add a war information box to the article you open? Thank you for your effort and article. Keremmaarda (talk) 18:32, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Keremmaarda! Thanks for pointing out the Turkish article, although I do not intend to base this one off it (unless if to check whether I missed something) since it seems to cover only the 1460 campaign, which is rather pointless to view in isolation: the 1460 campaign was part of a process that began in 1458, had its roots in the raids of Turahan, and was not properly completed until the fall of the last Venetian strongholds. The article will cover mostly the 1458-1460 events, but will also cover background and aftermath accordingly. I will work on it step by step over the following days, and once it is large enough will definitely also add a conflict infobox to it. Constantine ✍ 06:30, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

hello, Constantine! i had two quick questions regarding this article and the associated blurb.

• when the blurb and article lead introduce nur al-din, they both link to the "
  the article on nur al-din links to "Syria (region)
  " rather than "Bilad al-Sham".
• although the blurb and article consistently refer to "Nur al-Din", the title of the article on him uses the name "Nur ad-Din" instead, and uses that version of the name fairly consistently when not using a fuller version of his name. was the decision to use "Nur al-Din" in the featured article deliberate? i think using either would be fine, but thought i might raise the point because i was surprised by the discrepancy.

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yeah, i had been thinking the same thing: the bilad al-sham article could cover more on the subject, but it doesn't seem to at present. also, thanks for explaining the transliteration issue and providing the relevant links. i unfortunately do not know much about arabic, but had figured that the issue was probably based on differing transliteration standards. if your decision was deliberate and based on the mos, then i don't see a problem. thanks for addressing these issues! dying (talk) 00:36, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Much obliged for your comments at the galley FAC. I've noted your work on ancient history and was hoping you'd stop by. <3

Besides appreciation, I just wanted to say that I'm going to adjust the lede last. In case I wind up adjusting other sections in a way that might merit their own fixes to the lede.

Looking forward to your follow-up. Peter ^Isotalo 12:57, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Isotalo thanks, regarding the lede that is certainly sensible. Given the article size and the width of its scope, I will definitely do at least another read-through once the initial set of comments is done. Constantine ✍ 14:05, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop breaking references as you have done on both Galley and Dromon. DuncanHill (talk) 21:54, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DuncanHill: I have no idea what you are talking about. E.g. this version I see no reference errors. Please don't try to accuse me of vandalism on an article I myself wrote. Constantine ✍ 21:57, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I already have User:Trappist the monk/HarvErrors.js installed, BTW. The only errors it shows are for Ahrweiler and Christides because they are not used, but that was there before. Constantine ✍ 21:58, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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@Mathglot: if you look more closely at my edit, you will see that I did not 'cut content', but simply used templates to fill in repeated information about a single source from which several chapters by different authors were used. The readers still see the same information, but the template ensures that a) the information is consistent, b) that it is correct, and c) that if it needs to be corrected or updated, it can be done in one place and not in every page the source is cited. Constantine ✍ 19:27, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Constantine, Aha! thanks for your explanation. And you're right: I was going too fast, and mostly relied on the large byte-size drop, along with a cursory (and obviously not careful enough) glance at the diff itself. I see what you did, now, and I apologize for the notice on your Talk page, having not seen clearly what you were doing. So, you can ignore the message above.

That said, actually I'm very glad to have run into you, because it's clear we have been thinking about some of the same issues, notably 1) citation of multiple chapters of a single book, and 2) how best to reuse a citation to the same book or other resource across different articles. I've been working on these two issues quietly on my own, but I've slowly been trying to find someone to collaborate with on this, and given your concerns, you might be the perfect choice. If you're willing, please allow me to share what I've been doing in these two areas. This is long, and I apologize in advance; tl;dr: Citing multiple chapters, and dealing with refs shared across articles, is something I've been thinking about for a while, and I'd like to share some ideas with you, and maybe see how we could work together.

With respect to citations to multiple chapters of a book, you are perhaps already familiar with template {{

citec

}} is that one additional level of indirection is involved—that is, there are three links in the chain (sfn ⟶ citec ⟶ cite_book) instead of just two, as with normal short footnotes (sfn ⟶ cite_book). I think that could be dealt with if there were some really good documentation for it, but there isn't; it's very poorly explained, imho. Oe of my projects is to completely redo the doc for citec, and then secondly, create a template that will actually create the code for you. (Because this arose when I was trying to explain citec to a user, much of my draft doc is in the form of a user talk page conversation, but ultimately I aim to create a version intended for the citation doc page, or perhaps a supplementary info page linked from it.) For the time being, I've got a few approaches in various stages of completion:

• sample code in the form of a static demo aimed at a user talk page, at User talk:Mathglot/User talk snippets#Linking to a chapter
• a "test bed" example at User:Mathglot/sandbox/citec; I use this for trying out different things (in this one, the chapters are all by the same author, but they needn't be)
• live example at List of French historians; see Daileader et al in § Works cited.
• a user template, intended for a user talk page to inform a user trying to use multiple-chapter referencing, and explaining {{
  citec}} using their actual book. This is the code-generating template and it is incomplete, but you can see it in progress here
  .

In the end, I suspect that {{

citec

}}, if only it were properly explained. That's my target audience for this mini-project.

Secondly, with respect to reuse of the same citation in multiple articles, reuse can be done in many ways, all of which rely ultimately on transclusion in some form, whether via templates,

WP:SELTRANS, Module:Excerpt

, or other methods. Your idea of a single reference-template is probably the obvious initial choice, and it's also what I first thought of when I started. But it has a lot of issues, not least of which, is being aware that it exists, and how to find it. Secondly, it has a scaling problem, as it might work for you, or a small group perhaps, I was looking for something that if it caught on, would scale to the size of the encylopedia.

I ultimately hit upon an approach, which I call a "reference library", containing lots of reusable references. This is live and working in a tiny corner of the encyclopedia, and to my knowledge, I'm the only one using it so far, partly because I have not publicized it yet, but I hope to change that. I would really like to have a collaborator to bounce ideas off of, to help develop it further, and to begin to expand its use out of its tiny corner to other areas, to see if it really will scale the way I think it will, and to discover what issues are out there that I might not have thought of yet. Rather than explain Reflib here, I think the current doc is adequate to give you a good idea of how it works; please see Template:Reflib. At present, there are 13 articles that use it. I'd love to see additional use of Reflib in areas which I'm not familiar with, to see how it does. The templates you have created for shared use, could be subsumed in a new reflib article domain, and expanded into a whole new mini-library of shared, reusable references that would suit your interests.

Even if you're not interested in collaborating on further development, I'd love to create a new Reflib article domain of your choice in a topic area you plan to expand. Reflib probably works best in a topic area that is expected to see rapid or broad expansion. See for example, nav template {{French criminal law}} (note all the red links; over a year or so, I plan to turn them all blue, and they will share many references). I don't know that Reflib would help as much in a very mature topic area like, say, "Ancient Rome", where in theory, you could use it to retrofit existing articles that use the same references across multiple articles, but if the articles are already mature and the sourcing is adequate, it's probably not worth it. Thanks for reading this far, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Mathglot (talk) 02:00, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, again. I went ahead and converted the four sources in

citec}}; so now we have another real-world example, and one in a setting you're familiar with. It's a little tricky constructing it the first time, but then just like with {{cite book}} or anything else, once you've done it a couple of times, it becomes part of your toolkit. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 05:56, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply

]

(edit conflict) Wish I'd found you just a few days earlier; could've saved us both some effort. Anyway, I've created a new Reflib article domain for Template:Reflib/Ancient seafaring as proof of concept. It's only about 1/3 to 1/2 done, but there's enough there to be useful. (Feel free to rename it if you like; just lmk if you do). I applied it to Ships of ancient Rome, and other than a white-space issue in the References, it seems to be working fine; lmk if you find any problems with it. Will expand the lib tomorrow. Mathglot (talk) 10:03, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@

citec}}, so a big thanks there, I will likely start using it now :). On the Reflib, it is a very neat idea, in my view mostly because it can be a bibliographic reference page and having a nice collection at hand when starting on an article. However I am not sure how this is meant to work if you want to include works outside this collection, especially since there is the expectation of an alphabetic order in the sources section. I suspect most users will stick to individual citations for this reason. I can't promise much in terms of collaboration as I barely find time for my existing commitments and interests, but I can certainly contribute a few reference libraries on the topics close to my heart :). Constantine ✍ 15:34, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply

]

I've expanded {{Reflib/Ancient seafaring}} so it's over 50% done, now, although I may get pulled onto other things, so not sure if I'll "finish" it (in quotes, because nothing at a wiki is really ever finished, is it?). Even if not used via the template, it's a handy local library, as you say, when starting an article. As far as interleaving it with other works and keeping everything in alpha order, that's already being done at Ships of ancient Rome#Works cited. You'll notice a white-space issue that causes extra paragraph breaks; I do plan to work on that at some point, but it's low priority for me right now, because it's purely a cosmetic issue (which irks me, and I will get to it eventually), and expanding use of the template or just making ref libraries available is more important to me right now than running down that bug.

The expanded seafaring reflib now has three references with individually citable chapters implemented via {{

citec}}; you can see them in sections § Catsambis-2011, § Hattendorf-2003, and § Morrison-Gardiner-1995

. This may be another advantage of having the Reflib; namely, for refs with citable chapters—users can either grab them via the template and import directly into their References, or they can copy-paste the ref, with all the tricky "citec" stuff already done for them.

You mentioned "contribut[ing] a few reference libraries"—I would absolutely love it if you did! I built in some documentation that you probably haven't seen yet, in an attempt to make that process as easy as possible. My goal was, that someone using it for the first time would be walked through the steps, and be able to create their own, new article domain on a new topic, with no help other than what's in the documentation. And I really need feedback, on whether this "hand-hold" documentation aimed specifically at creating a new domain is sufficient, or needs work. So, I'm eager to hear your feedback about it. When you're ready to create one, go to the Template:Reflib page, and under the table in section § Article domain there's a sentence with two links: the first invites you to create a domain on the spot, and the other takes you to the detailed instruction page. I'm hoping that you can just try clicking the first link and it should walk you through the process. Please let me know where the pain points are, or if there's anything that's unclear. There's no minimum number of links for a new article domain page, so feel free to create one anytime on topics of interest to you. It's low-risk, you can't break anything, and if it all goes sideways, we can just delete the page and start again, so give it a try! Mathglot (talk) 08:46, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are you satisfied with the way Template:Reflib/Ancient seafaring has turned out so far? Comments, complaints, or suggestions are very welcome. Looking forward, I'm eager to expand the Reflib concept to additional article domains, so if you don't have time right now to contribute new libraries, maybe I can lend a hand. If you can point me to a topic area of interest to you that might benefit from creation of a Relib collection, I'd be happy to make a start on it. An ideal topic area would be a general topic that spans a number of article topics (existing or not) that might share sources, and is an area in need of expansion. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 06:33, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mathglot: I would recommend having there only sources that are directly under the scope of the title, e.g. Goldsworthy or Haldon are not specific to the topic, but more general histories. Otherwise the collection will become too large to be useful (potentially you could include every history work about the ancient period there because you just want a citation for a specific detail). Constantine ✍ 18:20, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Came across this while researching for the article - thought you might have some insight:

On 13 March 1940 Metaxas attended a public lecture by Marinatos. The latter, in return, paid tribute to the "Deceased" (the dictator) and the "Absent" (King Georgios II), in his ceremonial speech at Athens University on the first national celebration of 28 October 1940.

Any idea what Marinatos might have meant by "the Deceased" or "the Absent"? In 1940, as far as I know, Metaxas wasn't dead and Georgios was no longer in exile... UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 09:41, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@UndercoverClassicist: this unfortunate and confusing phrasing, I had to read it myself twice to get its meaning. What is meant is 'the first national celebration of the anniversary of 28 October 1940', i.e. Ochi Day, which took place in 1941. By which time both adjectives applied ;). Constantine ✍ 15:38, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah! Fantastic: thank you. I did wonder whether the writers had the date wrong: turns out I wasn't too far off. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 15:51, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Cplakidas: Another problem, I'm afraid, on the same topic:

Τὸ 1916 λοιπόν, ... γράφτηκε στὴ Φιλοσοφικὴ Σχολὴ καὶ τὸ 1921 πῆρε τὸ πτυχίο.

In this context, I can only see that the Φιλοσοφικὴ Σχολὴ is the Philosophical School of the University of Athens (which is definitely where he got his doctorate in 1921) - but that would make him 15 when he started there. Is there another meaning of Φιλοσοφικὴ Σχολὴ that I'm missing, or is it possible that he did indeed attend university at such a young age? That would admittedly help with the somewhat compressed chronology of his early life... UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 18:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@UndercoverClassicist: no, you're right, there was only one Philosophical School, and even today, when you say Φιλοσοφική Σχολή you mean Athens University. As for the early age, I don't have an explanation, but IIRC there were only 11 classes in the school system at the time, which might explain part of it. Constantine ✍ 17:20, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, looking at the sources, I'm pretty confident that the date is correct: nobody seems to comment on it as being particularly early, and indeed he seems to wait until more or less the "normal" time to do his postdoctoral studies abroad (at about 26). UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 18:23, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Cplakidas, I hope this message finds you well. I am writing this message prompted by the article on the battle of Meligalas that you translated from Greek to English. Having in mind this excellent translation of yours, I was wondering whether I could ask you if you would be interested in employing your skills in the translation of another article of the Greek version of the encyclopedia concerning modern Greek history, that has also been given featured status in elwiki, that about Pavlos Melas, with which I have also greatly concerned myself in the past. Regardless of whether this would be included in your future activities, in which case I am sure of a similarly excellent result, please accept my best wishes, Ashmedai 119 (talk) 12:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ashmedai 119! Thanks for your kind words, and of course I would be honored to translate it. I cannot promise that it will be done quickly as I find myself with little time lately, but I am putting it near the top of my todo list ;). And thanks for your efforts in writing quality articles at elwiki. Constantine ✍ 07:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

May I thank you on return for your extremely swift and extremely kind response and for taking me up on my offer? I look forward to it, though I understand that so prolific an editor as you has of course a lot of other time-consuming encyclopedic interests on his plate. Best, Ashmedai 119 (talk) 05:02, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Cplakidas, I hope this finds you well. I am sorry for bothering you with this remembrance, but I am wondering whether you are still planning to squeeze that translation of the article on Melas into the programme of your editing activities, whenever you find it suitable. I do not mean to impose myself, it's just that I had been hoping for it to have been translated in time for a featured article candidacy before the 120th anniversary of Melas's death this coming October. Regards, Ashmedai 119 (talk) 11:34, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reminder, Ashmedai 119, I had completely forgotten about that. As the article already exists, and this is a major undertaking, I will start a draft translation in my sandbox. Since it will involve some editorial decisions to translate and adapt it for a non-Greek readership, could I count on you to give some advice? Constantine ✍ 11:56, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely, I will be happy to be of help. Ashmedai 119 (talk) 12:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for this notification. I am not sure if I should be replying here, so please let me know if you would prefer me to write not in this talk page. In any case, there is not really a contradiction, as this statement is temporally specific; it refers to the period after the defeat in the war of 1897 and the dissolution of the "National Society". I am quoting from page 101 of Gounaris's chapter:

"[after the turn of the century] it was different. The humiliating defeat of 1897 which Greece had suffered at the hands of the Turks had reduced the bellicose spirits to a minimum. Moreover, the dissolution of the once powerful Ethniki Etaireia (National Society) in 1900 had marked the official death of irredentism. For the time being indifference for the unredeemed prevailed; 'in Greece everybody was asleep', remembered a junior army officer at the time in his memoirs. He believed that this national lethargy was the result of ignorance: "[People] thought that the land of Alexander the Great was not in any danger. Since it was his homeland, it was impossible that one day our [rights] could be disputed. The fact that Bulgarian was spoken in the northern parts [of the region] was ignored. [fn. 5: Mazarakis-Ainian 1984, 176] Others explained the prevailing apathy in terms of fear. Some thought that Macedonia and Thrace were destined to become Bulgarian.[fn. 6: Souliotis-Nikolaidis 1984, 283] Any news from Macedonia was bad news; it seemed obvious that yet another war with an unpredictable outcome was inevitable. This is why people 'were armed with a sort of indifference. [...]'[fn. 7: Mela 1991, 171]".

I propose adding an explanatory phrase to the end of the sentence (e.g. something along the lines of "against the mood of apathy and despair that had prevailed after the war of 1897") and including page 101 to the range of pages to which the reader is referred in the footnote following after this sentence. Ashmedai 119 (talk) 07:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ashmedai 119, thanks for the swift reply! That does indeed cover the concern nicely. For further issues that may I arise and need to be discussed, I would suggest dealing with them in the sandbox. You are of course welcome to do corrections or emendations yourself if you see fit. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 18:20, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I just bought a dozen volumes of the Journal of Military History at a used bookstore and stumbled across one that you might find of interest. Stoyanov, Aleksandr. The Size of Bulgaria's Medieval Field Armies: A Case Study of Military Mobilization Capacity in the Middle Ages. JMH, July 2019 83(3), pp. 719–746. It's got a few relevant bits relating the 2nd Arab Siege of Constantinople that should be useful for that article. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:05, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sturmvogel 66 that is very interesting, thanks! Can you send this over? I'd include it asap in the article then. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 18:07, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, Constantine! Long time no see. I hope everything is doing well. I was checking some Ancient Egyptian content and, despite I know is not exactly your primary area of interest, I think I found an hoax. Probably a fake goddess. "Nebtuwi" was supposedly Khnum's wife, but I cannot find reliable sources to that on the internet (in press or online). The articles mentions a Russian source (unverified) and a broken site (but considering the name, it's difficult to assume that is reliable). The creator is banned now, and I guess that was a fake thing left behind. Supposing it's correct my idea, would you mind sending that to deletion? I'm not acquainted about the procedures to propose myself. Renato de Carvalho Ferreira (talk) 15:43, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Renato, indeed long time no see! I am well, but extremely busy off WP. I hope you are doing well too. On the question, I had a look in some specialist resources for Nebtu, Khnum, and Latopolis:

• The Routledge Dictionary of Egyptian Gods and Goddesses(2nd Edition), entry on Khnum, pp. 85-86: "In his supervision over the cataract region he is assisted by the goddesses SATIS and ANUKIS... His consort at Esna (Neith having a totally independent role in this temple) is a minor lioness-goddess called Menhyt."
• Egyptian Mythology A to Z (3rd Edition), entry on Khnum, p. 104: "Khnum’s cult center was on Elephantine Island in Aswan, where he ruled with his wife, Anukis, and his daughter Satis"
• The Complete Temples of Ancient Egypt, entry on Esna, makes no reference to this goddess.
• Complete Gods and Goddesses of Ancient Egypt, entry on Khnum, p. 194: "Esna Khnum was associated not only with the lion goddess Menhyt, but also with the goddess Neith....At Elephantine he was the head of a triad including the goddesses Satis and Anukis who were also associated with the same geographic area."

So this does appear to be a hoax or at the very least a misunderstanding; the Russian source does not inspire confidence either. This is a clear deletion candidate. Constantine ✍ 18:35, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I searched a little bit more and I found something that can clarify the point. Some sources (no more than two really old books) mention Nebt-uu and say that the goddess was worshiped at Esna. According to this one, it's just a local name of Hathor. And according to this one, another name of Isis. So far, nothing more indicates it's a separate goddess. The name is incorrect anyway.--Renato de Carvalho Ferreira (talk) 19:52, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's solved: here.--Renato de Carvalho Ferreira (talk) 20:01, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the find. At any rate this goddess was not associated with Khnum. Constantine ✍ 21:34, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Would you be able to read this source that was added for the result of the battle?

• Leveniotis, Georgios Athanasios (2007). Η πολιτική κατάρρευση του Βυζαντίου στην Ανατολή: το ανατολικό σύνορο και η κεντρική Μικρά Ασία κατά το β' ήμισυ του 11ου αι [The Political Collapse of Byzantium in the East: The Eastern Frontier and Central Asia Minor During the Second Half of the 11th Century] (PhD thesis) (in Greek). Aristotle University of Thessaloniki.
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--Kansas Bear (talk) 00:36, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kansas Bear, I have access to the work, and iirc was the one who added it to the article. What exactly do you want me to check up on? Constantine ✍ 17:20, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm curious as to who won the battle, if anyone.

• Georgian-Byzantine victory
• Mixed results, many of the medieval sources consider it a Byzantine defeat. citing Leveniotis
• Seljuk victory, current version.

Was hoping the Leveniotis source would be of some help.--Kansas Bear (talk) 20:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lepeniotis says that "the final result of the fierce battle that ensued was ultimately rather ambiguous. [...] Aristakēs, on the other hand, attributes the "defeat" and capture of Liparit to intra-Byzantine disputes, which resulted in the retreat of the Bulgarian-born Aaron and his men during the battle. The narrative though of Ioannes Skylitzes for the battle, which is more extensive and clearly more reliable, describes things completely differently. [Describes the Byzantine victory on the flanks, and the defeat of the Georgians in the centre] The description of Skylitzes seems plausible, if one takes into account that in a frontal clash in close order, the Byzantine cavalry and infantry had a tactical advantage over the Seljuk horse archers due to their clearly heavier armament and greater experience. [...] The next morning the Imperial commanders were awake and dejected, despite having effectively prevailed in the previous day's conflict, and decided to retire to their quarters for the winter." In essence, a Byzantine battlefield success was turned into a strategic defeat through the defeat and capture of Liparit, and their failure to bring the Turks to task for their destructive raids. In addition, at least one source, Matthew of Edessa, had a clearly anti-Byzantine agenda and portrayed the battle deliberately as a Byzantine betrayal of Liparit and defeat, which influenced later perceptions. Constantine ✍ 12:49, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! I would like to know which is the proper title for greek governments articles? For example, Second Cabinet of Kyriakos Mitsotakis is only for the members of the cabinet or i can add context about goverment work like greek article? perhaps we must change title Second Government of Kyriakos Mitsotakis or something like that? I am going to expand List of cabinets of Greece and i want to know the proper title. Thank you! D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:40, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) May I pop in here? I'm interested in the question of terminology choice of cabinets or governments also, but more generally, i.e. as it applies to other countries, and in particular, whether it is more tied to the country being described, or, looking through the other end of the telescope, is it more tied to the country the editor or reader is from? The reason I say this, is that I've noticed an AE vs BE (American or British English) usage issue related to this question, even when talking about a third country topic unrelated to either one. AE has a broader sense of the term government than BE does; in AE, it includes the judiciary and legislative branches at the federal level, and not only the executive branch as in BE, and the AE term also comprises levels below federal, such as state and local government, whereas in BE it's just the executive branch tied to the P.M. of a particular election cycle result. The term cabinet is similar in both AE and BE and refers to a smallish group of senior advisers who give counsel to the president or P.M. Tbh, I'm not sure how any of this pertains directly to the OP question regarding Greek government articles, butthere may be an indirect effect you hadn't considered, so I just wanted to add this additional wrinkle about how readers from the US and UK may understand your article differently, depending on which term you use. Mathglot (talk) 23:09, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In greek wikipedia we dont use the term cabinet. We use the term Goverment of... And we have one article for goverment work and ministries. That's why i confused here. What is your opinion? Two articles (ministries / goverment work) or one (ministries and goverment work)? D.S. Lioness (talk) 00:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@D.S. Lioness and Mathglot: In Greek, there is no distinction between 'cabinet' and 'government'. The same word, κυβέρνηση, is used, which properly means 'government'. The term υπουργείο, ministry, was used in the 19th century, but has fallen out of use. In the WP context, IMO it makes sense to separate a 'cabinet', as in a particular incarnation of the ministerial council, from the generic government of a country. This is precisely the sense in which it is used for Greece as well: Government of Greece is (notwithstanding its present lack of content) the article on the central government of the country, while Cabinet of X Y is the government led by X Y. Constantine ✍ 17:18, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So, we must have two articles. See my problem here List of cabinets of Greece D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Βασικά, θέλω να μεταφράσω τα ελληνικά αντίστοιχα- και δεν ξέρω τι τίτλο να βάλω D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@D.S. Lioness: we already have the translations of the terms, and the ordering by polity, in the template: Template:Cabinets of Greece. Constantine ✍ 17:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So i transfer this titles although i think it is more appropriate the term Govermnet like greek titles D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that would be best. Καθότι δεν υπάρχει ένα προς ένα αντιστοιχία στα Ελληνικά, είναι προτιμότερο να ακολοθυείται η καθιερωμένη αγγλική διάκριση. Constantine ✍ 17:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

o.k! D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:38, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your kind words, Albertatiran! Of course I am looking forward to yours and Ghazaalch's next article! Happy new year and lots of health and happiness to both of you! Constantine ✍ 10:23, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm wondering if you could take a look at the articles edited by Eugene de Moree since you're knowledgeable on the topic. To me, they use what appears to be highly suspicious sources at odds with the academic ones I'm aware of to push genealogical narratives related to the medieval Morea/Achaea principality. A single-purpose account which is harming WP coverage on the Zaccarias? Rheskouporis (talk) 12:54, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree completely with the user @Rheskouporis. A third opinion is necessary, so please @Cplakidas evaluate the sources as I also deem your profile highly knowledgeable on the period and I've been following your edits on Byzantium articles for long. All the sources I listed are academic and written by historians knowledgeable on the topic, such as the more contemporary Maria Dourou-Iliopoulou (an expert on the era of Frankokratia) or old authorities such as Stephanos Thomopoulos and of course first sources like Chalkokondyles or Sphrantzes. I also disregarded old academic sources such as Carl Hopf as I find his conclusions confusing. The only edit I regretted was my trust to a genealogical research posted on the house Damalas page that I added to some of the articles edit and then deleted it as I didn't found the results scholarly.

I need clarifications about what @Rheskouporis implies as "highly suspicious" sources, I don't see how a contemporary chronographer of the 15th century could be suspicious. I am on WP for 5 years editing articles on Byzantine Empire and the Principality of Achaea-Morea, actually the first article I created was about Euphrosyne Kastamonitissa so I don't really understand the offending"a single purpose account" accusation of the user. This part of his text is hard to understand.

Thanks for your time. Eugene de Moree (talk) 15:57, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:RS, but the other sources are legitimate. I have a mistrust towards purely genealogical works like Sturdza since they tend in my experience to be biased in favour of 'proving' family continuity rather than factual accuracy, but a priori they cannot be dismissed out of hand. Likewise, I wouldn't use Thomopoulos, since he wrote in the 19th century and much of scholarship has changed since, but it remains a bona fides scholarly work that can still be valuable, if properly used; without looking at the specific references I cannot state whether it is appropriate to cite it for a given fact or not. Constantine ✍ 19:32, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply

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I completely agree about this not being a scholarly work thus I intend to remove the contributions I made on Zaccaria-related articles with this genealogical tree since @M.Soulli.Genealogy doesn't provide sources verifying this table. About Thomopoulos definitely it is never preferable to cite a 19th-century scholar, I follow the same reason with Hopf, that said, the history he authored about the city of Patras is indeed comprehensive and offers many insights about parts of the history of Frankokratia, such as the Latin archbishopric of Patras and its clerics (Antelm of Cluny etc), that is hard to find in its original sources. I am sure you are aware of how big the problem of finding contemporary sources is with Frankokratia. Fortunately, the History of the City of Patras was published again in 1999 with new commentary and additions by the editor Lazaris Vasilis. I assure you I use Thomopoulos with caution.

Thanks Constantine for your insights on the sources. Eugene de Moree (talk) 20:03, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Κατ΄αρχήν ήθελα να σε ρωτήσω, τι είναι δόκιμο σε αυτή τη βπ: βάζουμε παλιά και νέα ημερομηνία ή μόνο τη νέα; Δημιουργείται μεγάλο μπέρδεμα με αυτή την διαφορά στο ημερολόγιο. Επίσης, μη κάνεις ανακατεύθυνση στη Α΄ ελληνική δημοκρατία. Οι όροι Προσωρινή Δίοικησις και Ελληνική Πολιτεία ήταν επίσημες ονομασίες του ελληνικού κράτους εκείνα την περίοδο - η α ελληνική δημοκρατία δεν είναι επίσημος όρος- φαντάζομαι το ξέρεις. D.S. Lioness (talk) 19:00, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

D.S. Lioness Δόκιμα είναι αμφότερα, το παλαιό ημερολόγιο όμως μόνο εφόσον είναι σχετικό με το αντικείμενο (στην ελληνική περίπτωση επειδή είναι οι ημερομηνίες που αναφέρονται στην καθαυτό σχετική βιβλιογραφία, την ελληνική), και γίνεται σαφής στον αναγνώστη η χρήση του. Σχετικά με την ανακατεύθυνση, ο όρος Α΄ ελληνική δημοκρατία είναι καθιερωμένος ιστοριογραφικός όρος. Εν απουσία επιμέρους άρθρων για τα δυο πολιτεύματα, είναι απόλυτα θεμιτή η ανακατεύθυνση σε ένα άρθρο όπου αναφέρονται λεπτομέρειες. Γενικά η επίσημη ονομασία μετράει μόνο όπου δεν υπάρχει ευρύτερα γνωστός/χρησιμοποιούμενος ιστοριογραφικός όρος, πρβλ. Βυζαντινή Αυτοκρατορία (Ρωμανία, βασιλεία Ρωμαίων) ή την χούντα (Βασίλειο της Ελλάδος/Ελληνική Δημοκρατία), αντίστοιχα παραδείγματα υπάρχουν πολλά. Constantine ✍ 20:30, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ευχαριστώ για τις διευκρινήσεις. D.S. Lioness (talk) 17:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Saw your review in a good article nominee, is it possible if you could review Haile Selassie article via starting a review? The article has a traffic of 3,000+ on a normal day, yet its concerning their hasn't been a single review to discuss, could you be the starter? CtasACT (talk) 05:51, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Constantine,

I try to follow the changes you make to the article Preveza, and I would like to ask some questions.

What makes you believe that the Ottoman conquest of the region of Preveza occured in c. 1486/87? There has been more recent research since these views were formed. i.e. this article, in English of this, in Greek. Furthermore, the views of late Petros Phourikes, published almost 100 years back in the EEBS (annuaire de l’ association d’ études byzantines), have already been reevaluated by this article published in the same scientific annuaire. Namely, the dating of Preveza concluded by Phourikes, and based on the mention of the place (Prevesa) in some of the copies of the Chronicle of Morea, has been disputed.

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