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Category:Christianity in Macedonia

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator. I have converted[1] the page to a category disambiguation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:17, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: redirect from an ambiguous title. This is a category redirect to Category:Christianity in North Macedonia, but Christianity in Macedonia is a disambiguation page. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Multiple citizenship

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The result of the discussion was: keep. bibliomaniac15 02:46, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Doesnt merit a separate category. It inappropriately attracts articles about individuals with dual citizenship. I think only 4 of the articles belong and the biographies should be purged. Rathfelder (talk) 21:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Multiple citizenship is a significant topic in nationality law, and the category is well capable of expansion. No objection to purgeing it of individual biographies. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:59, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the concept is notable and distinct, but having multiple citizenship is not defining to those who have them (many people do, and those with means can buy one from numerous countries, and we don't categorize people by how much money they have, much less how they spend it). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:18, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Purge biographies since they do not belong in this category. Possibly rename to Category:Multiple citizenship (law) in order to clarify the purpose. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:14, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Having purged the biographies there are 2 articles about Australian constitutional law and one, apart from the eponymous article, about multiple citizenship. I dont think there is much potential for growth because any new articles will actually be about the constitutional law of a particular state, not about the wider topic. Rathfelder (talk) 22:35, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Rathfelder, what exactly is the problem you see with this category category containing articles about the status of multiple citizenship in individual countries? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:49, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • I dont think they are usefully categorised there. Law of nationality is different in each country. I would move the Australian articles to Category:Australian nationality law. Legally speaking I think Nationality is preferable as a topic category. But I'm more worried about this filling up with biographies. If we really think it's worth keeping separately from Category:Citizenship, with only 4 articles can we take up Marcocapelle's suggestion and rename it? Rathfelder (talk) 13:33, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Of course law of nationality is different in each country. But we don't exclude other topics from a relevant category just because it's done differently in different countries. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:07, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
          • What sort of articles would there be which would be better characterised in Category:Multiple citizenship rather than in Fooish Nationality Law. The case law is all about whether a person is a citizen of Foo. Rathfelder (talk) 17:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose merge Four articles is certainly enough to support a cat, even in the (unlikely) event there is never any further growth in the cat. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:17, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cha-cha-cha

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The result of the discussion was: keep.
(non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 23:15, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply
]
Nominator's rationale: The bare title
WP:OVERLAPCAT ... and since the music derives from the dance, it seems to me to be better to name the category after the dance. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Central Germany

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 02:49, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: per
WP:SHAREDNAME. This category groups a planning (but not administrative) region Central German Metropolitan Region with two informal areas which have some geographical overlap: Central Germany (cultural area) and Middle German Chemical Triangle.
The fuzziness of the concept makes a poor category. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:44, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Delete per nom. The current category structure is a right mess e.g. with this category forming a category loop with Category:Saxony. It's much better to categorize by actual German states (clearly defined). The pages in this category will still be well categorized if this category is deleted. DexDor (talk) 06:56, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. I've sorted that out - it's now under regions of Germany where it should be. Bermicourt (talk) 08:00, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Molluscs of Nicaragua

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The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 18:14, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Which specific countries a mollusc/spider is found in is often non-defining (e.g. see Larger Pacific striped octopus or Cardisoma crassum).
Example previous similar CFDs. DexDor (talk) 20:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, we usually do not categorize species by country (unless endemic). Marcocapelle (talk) 04:27, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Equus Award winners

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The result of the discussion was: Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 18:14, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No article, notability not demonstrated. – Fayenatic London 20:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pakistani music albums

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 15:13, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There are various types of Pakistani music when looking through Category:Pakistani styles of music, so the initial scope of this category seems to be redundant to Category:Albums by Pakistani artists. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete seems to not be part of a general classification thus we avoid determining whether albums have nationalities. At some point, we should discuss the children of Category:Albums by artist nationality which seem very under utilized and whether those should all be limited to subcategories only or whether it has usefulness. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:32, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Armaan Malik

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 15:13, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:
WP:OCEPON. Only contains one directly related article for a list of songs he recorded. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:55, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Jubin Nautiyal

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 15:14, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization per
WP:OCEPON. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:40, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Musical groups from Tierra Caliente

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 6#Category:Musical groups from Tierra Caliente

Category:Campeonato de Portugal

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The result of the discussion was: rename. bibliomaniac15 02:51, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Disambiguation.
WP:C2D applies to a "head redirect". BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:03, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 12:55, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Campeonato Brasileiro

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 15:23, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Campeonato Brasileiro is a disambiguation page, which includes competitions in other sports ... but this category is used only for football. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:45, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 09:18, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wives of Vice Presidents of the United States

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. bibliomaniac15 03:02, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is a duplicate of the already existing Category:Second Ladies of the United States. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:00, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support, since I actually tried to nominate this category for deletion yesterday for the same rationale, but according to the edit preview, it would not have been listed on this discussion log correctly.--TommyBoy (talk) 19:55, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hollow Earth theory and Category:Flat Earth theory

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The result of the discussion was: rename. The main policy-based rationale in this case would be
WP:C2D, that the category to match the head article. This closure is not an endorsement of the nom's original rationale. bibliomaniac15 02:55, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Nominator's rationale: Not theories in the scientific sense, just pseudoscientific ideas. --Hob Gadling (talk) 08:18, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Removing the word "theory" makes the label an assertion of fact, which seems to be opposite of what the nominator intends.
And I deplore the tendency of some science fans to take partisan approach to labelling topics. Calling something a "theory" doesn't endow it with some stamp of validity: dictionary definitions of "theory" (e.g. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory) include much looser meanings than those suggested by the nominator, including speculation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:00, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Binary logic

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 02:56, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OR
Nominator's rationale:
boolean logic. This category contains only three articles on electronic device which employ binary logic, and it has no sub-categories ... so no way is a remotely complete grouping of content related to binary logic.
I don't know enough about this topic to decide what the solution is ... but I can see that something needs fixing. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:38, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
]
However, as currently organised,
adder-subtractor is in binary arithmetic. The third entry, binary decoder does not belong in the binary arithmetic category, but is already otherwise suitably categorised. SpinningSpark 10:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Category:Bucephala

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Bucephala (bird). MER-C 15:09, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming:
Option A
Option B
Nominator's rationale: The bare title
Bucephala (bird) redirects there. I am not sure which to use. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:56, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Bucephala is a dab page. DexDor (talk) 05:12, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option A. I think our normal practice is to use scientific name for the category even where the article is at the common name. DexDor (talk) 05:12, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Indian State Government Engineering Colleges

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 15:23, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is a category of lists and should be named thusly. BenKuykendall (talk) 02:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Whalers

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The result of the discussion was: rename per option B. MER-C 15:24, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming either
Option A
Option B
Nominator's rationale: Whaling is the hunting and killing of whales for their usable products.
The term "whaler" is ambiguous. It can refer either to a person involved in whaling, or to a whaling ship.
The ships are currently at Category:Whaling ships, though the head article is whaler.
It's perverse to have the people categorised under the same term as we use for ships, so we need some disambiguation. I have no preference between "Whalers (people)" and "People in whaling", and I am open to other ideas ... so long as we disambiguate somehow. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:09, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support option B. I suspect there are people connected with the industry onshore (e.g., whaling company managers) who are categorised. Grutness...wha? 03:43, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support option B as simpler, clearer and more inclusive: Christian Salvesen was a major figure in Scottish whaling, but not a whaler himself in my understanding. . . . dave souza, talk 10:55, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option B avoids the problem of the ships. Rathfelder (talk) 21:33, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Option B for reasons stated above, and also because a nominative phrase reads better than a parenthetical description --Carbon Caryatid (talk) 20:27, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Warner

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 15:14, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category redirect from an ambiguous title. Warner is a lengthy disambiguation page. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:03, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - It's a category that's way too ambiguous. Although most people would think of WarnerMedia, I'd say delete, as it would be way to confusing as one word for that specific instance, just as it is now. Koridas talk? 02:45, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:The Hitcher

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The result of the discussion was: delete. If other articles regarding the film series are created, there's no prejudice towards recreating the category. bibliomaniac15 00:53, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: per
WP:SMALLCAT. Only three articles, and no prospect of expansion BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:34, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Category:The Essential

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 00:54, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Disambiguation. This a category for a series of compilation albums (
WP:SHAREDNAME category.
I have tried to find a dab which isn't too verbose, but other editors may have better ideas. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Delete Do distinct compilations for diverse artists such as the Backstreet Boys, Herbie Hancock, and Ozzy Osbourne really need to be categorized based on the way a record label markets their back catalog? I might nominate Category:Gold series albums and Category:Playlist compilation albums, among others, pending the outcome of this discussion. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Somali-language newspapers published in Somaliland

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 25#Category:Somali-language newspapers published in Somaliland

Category:Tata

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The result of the discussion was: convert to category dab page. bibliomaniac15 03:01, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Disambiguation: the bare title Tata is a dab page.
This is a parent category for Category:Tata family, Category:Tata Group and Category:Tata institutions, so those names are already taken ... and "Tata (India)" is the least-worst name I can think of. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:01, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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