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File:Rajaumarhassan.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:03, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly watermarked image suggesting a studio image. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:15, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Rais Neza Boneza.jpeg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:03, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to be an unused profile photo? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:18, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Makin' It (TV series)

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The result of the discussion was: keep intertitle image. — ξ ^xplicit 02:45, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am now using the promo ad and the opening title images in the article just for discussion. Shall we keep the ad or the opening title? George Ho (talk) 00:29, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, the template that you added to the TV series article is clearly marked for use on file pages only. It shouldn't be used in articles. Secondly, this issue is really better discussed on the article talk page or at

WT:TV. The consensus of that project has long been to use the intertitle, which is something of which you are aware. Both of the images are non-free so, as a choice between a non-free promo and a non-free intertitle, the intertitle is what should be used. Naturally, as a result of that the promo ad, which is not used anywhere else, should then be tagged as orphaned and subsequently deleted. --AussieLegend (✉) 20:25, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply

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File:What's the use of going through with the Election.JPG

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The result of the discussion was: remove from Emma Smith Kennedy. — ξ ^xplicit 02:45, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File is being used in two articles:

WP:OR. Usage is purely decorative and it should be removed from the Kennedy article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 16:01, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply

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According to the article
Stefan2 (talk) 19:38, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply
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OK. So, if it's "PD-US-not-renewed", then no problem with using it in "Emma Smith Kennedy". If it's non-free, then remove it from the Kennedy article. Is that about the gist of it? -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:30, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Flag of Ainu People.gif

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:03, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Would this non-free flag image satisfy {{

WP:NFCC would no longer be applicable. -- Marchjuly (talk) 18:21, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply

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The artwork on the flag seems too complex for PD-ineligble in USA. It could maybe be ineligible for copyright as a 'utilitarian object' in the source country. Japanese courts seem to slap {{Stefan2 (talk) 19:43, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply ] OK, so it's not PD. Can a valid non-free rationale for it be written for Ethnic flag? It wasn't being discussed at all in the article; It was just displayed in the gallery Ethnic flag#East Asia with the caption "Ainu people[27] (Hokkaidō, Kuril Islands and Sakhalin)" and this cited as a source. There may be a way to incorporate it into "Ainu people", but I'm not sure how to best do that. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:27, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply] Stefan2 (talk) 20:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)[reply ] I tend to agree with your assessment. Removing the flag will make it an orphan and this will eventually lead to its deletion per WP:F5 if it does not find another home. Do you think there's a way to write a valid non-free use rationale for "Ainu people"? -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:08, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply] It depends on how the flag is used by the Ainu community. Is this a commonly used flag? I have never been to Stefan2 (talk) 15:09, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply ] I am not sure how common it is. I've never seen it used anywhere in Japan or on Japanese TV, etc., but I've also have never been to any areas of the country associated with the Ainu. The editor who uploaded the flag was notified of this discussion on their user talk, but so far they have not responded. If they or anyone else does not provide further clarification and the consensus is to remove it from "Ethnic flag", then it will be tagged with F5 and eventually deleted as an orphan. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:32, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply] Hi there I'm the uploader. Without this flag, that part of the page will become empty and make the page incomplete, I then re-uploaded the flag. I'm not an expert in copyright issues so I'm not sure you are talking about copyright of the image file or the flag itself. For the image file, it seems the website's copyright page implies that it can be used in non-commercial and unaltered way with attribution. For the flag itself, the flag's page states it "was designed by the late Mr Bikki Sunazawa in 1973" so we can no longer ask the designer himself. By the way, flags are meant to be displayed, so it seems odd to me if a flag cannot be displayed (unless it's a company's private flag, etc). --Chakazul (talk) 02:06, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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File:Flag of the Torres Strait Islanders.svg

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The result of the discussion was: remove from Indigenous Australians. — ξ^xplicit 02:45, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Flag of the Torres Strait Islanders.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Andrwsc (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Could this be licensed as public domain as {{
WP:NFCC would no longer be of any concern. -- Marchjuly (talk) 18:39, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply
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Retain as unfree - The flag is still copyrightable in Australia. Also, the shape forming a U upside down may help the flag surpass threshold of originality in the US. If you disagree, then tag it as "{{PD-ineligible-USonly}}" as Commons won't allow this flag to be uploaded under jurisdiction of home country. --George Ho (talk) 09:41, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine. Do you have any opinion on the non-free usage in WP:NFCC#8 in my opinion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:08, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply
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If we were to remove this file from the infobox in Indigenous Australians we'd have to remove the Aboriginal flag as well, since not to do so would mislead readers into believing that the Aboriginal flag represents all indigenous Australians, when it most definitely does not. --AussieLegend (✉) 10:13, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
(WP:NFC#UUI seems to say should be done in cases like this for the non-free image. Just for reference, the flag is being used in Torres Strait Islands, but is no longer being used in Torres Strait Islanders for some reason. Was it incorrectly removed from that article or does that mean it's not needed in that article? Anyway, this is just a discussion on this one particular usage. I'm not suggesting that the flag should be deleted or removed from the other articles. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:18, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply
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I wasn't suggesting that we keep the image just so we can use the other, just commenting on a necessary action if we stop using it. The removal from Torres Strait Islanders occurred in March 2015, and was unexplained or discussed.[1] The editor who removed it removed content from a series of articles in a short period. --AussieLegend (✉) 11:44, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To keep the flag, the article should have explained it. However, without enough explanation, I don't mind having both flags removed from "Indigenous Australians". --George Ho (talk) 11:09, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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