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January 4
File:Tupac Shakur 4.jpg
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- File:Tupac Shakur 4.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lindenhurst Liberty (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This image belongs to Corbis, a press agency. The image is used merely to show what the subject looks like (as opposed to a significant photograph in its own right) and so clearly fails NFCC#2. Josh Milburn (talk) 00:23, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- Speedy delete as F7: Such press agency images almost universally fail NFCC#2 and have a speedy deletion criterium.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:24, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
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File:VCU Rams.png
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The result of the discussion was: Kept and marked as PD - Peripitus (Talk) 11:14, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
- File:VCU Rams.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Quidster4040 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Image is currently being treated as non-free, but I believe it might be simple enough for {{
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File:W&L Generals.png
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The result of the discussion was: Kept as a non-free image for the main article only - Peripitus (Talk) 11:11, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
- File:W&L Generals.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Corkythehornetfan (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Simple geometric shape which seems too simple to be eligible for copyright protection and OK as {{
]- If the letters were separate then very likely it would not be considered as copyrightable, since usually font on its own is not. But because the letters are not separate and parts of each shape complete the other shape into a letter - the W would not be a letter without the L and vice versa - there is enough originality to make the logo copyrightable. Agree with No. 17 of WP:NFC#UUI Rybkovich (talk) 19:23, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
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File:Bullett Raja (cover).jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:02, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- File:Bullett Raja (cover).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by TrendSPLEND (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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File:Campbell Fighting Camels C.gif
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:02, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- File:Campbell Fighting Camels C.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Bsuorangecrush (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned free image; multiple images have replaced this file in all articles. ❄ Corkythehornetfan ❄ 06:39, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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File:StMartinsSaints.png
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- File:StMartinsSaints.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by VitaleBaby (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Non-free logo which seems to be too simple to be copyrighted and acceptable as {{
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File:Spokane Shock Home Helmet Logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:01, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- File:Spokane Shock Home Helmet Logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by NostalgiaBuff97501 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Spokane Shock 2014 Primary Logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by NostalgiaBuff97501 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log)
Both non-free logos are being used in the infobox of
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File:Tacoma stars logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: DEleted one, kept one. ANything else can be fixed with bold action by editors - Peripitus (Talk) 11:53, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- File:Tacoma stars logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Fma12 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Tacoma Stars.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Indoorsoccer (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log)
Both logos are non-free and have
]- ]
- Not sure which one should be deleted, but the source for the png version is the team's official website while the source for the jpeg version is for an apparently unrelated website and the link is not working. As for using it in both articles, I'm not sure if No. 17 of WP:NFC#UUI would apply in such cases since the 2003 team might be considered to be the "parent" and the 1983 team might be considered to be the "child". The fact that 1983 team may have used the same logo as the 2003 team does not automatically mean the non-free image should be used in both. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:25, 5 January 2016 (UTC)]
- Not sure which one should be deleted, but the source for the png version is the team's official website while the source for the jpeg version is for an apparently unrelated website and the link is not working. As for using it in both articles, I'm not sure if No. 17 of
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File:Georgetown University Hoya logo.svg
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The result of the discussion was: Used in one article only now. Marchjuly - you can just be bold and change this without a discussion if you like as it's fairly obviously correct - Peripitus (Talk) 11:48, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- File:Georgetown University Hoya logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Patrickneil (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Non-free logo being used in
- I don't think they are as interchangeable as you suggest. The "alternate logo", the G, is mainly used by and associated with the school's men's and women's basketball teams, while the bulldog logo is used by all.-- Patrick, oѺ∞ 15:35, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- The parent article in such cases is generally considered to be the article about the university's athletic team and the use of the mascot logo is typically considered acceptable in such articles per No. 17 of contextual. Something specific to each team may be acceptable if such logos exist, but the default is not to automatically use the mascot logo when they do not. In addition, the "G" can be seen on the helmets and the jersey backs of the men's team as well as on the jacket of the women's team coach in some of the photos posted on the official webpages of men's lacrosse and women's lacrosse, so maybe it's usage is not so uncommon with respect to those particular teams. I could not find the rugby club on the university's athletic department page, so perhaps it's not a full-varsity team. If it's not, then this further weakens any argument for using the mascot logo in it's article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:56, 5 January 2016 (UTC)]
- The parent article in such cases is generally considered to be the article about the university's athletic team and the use of the mascot logo is typically considered acceptable in such articles per No. 17 of
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File:CUA Cardinal 2008.png
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The result of the discussion was: DEleted - Perhaps I am being presumptious but we have a free image File:Initials catholic univ.svg used on eswiki and on their uniforms, or a probably non-free image with poor rationale for use in all but one place. I've boldly replaced it in one use with the free svg and deleted otherwise - else we will be back with with an NCFF#1 complaint eventually. Complaints to the right - Peripitus (Talk) 01:03, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- File:CUA Cardinal 2008.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Non-free logo being used in
- I don't think that specific cardinal logo can be copyrighted. There is a wide range of nearly identical cardnals sports logos. An example would be a card company claiming that some minute aspect of its queen or king cards that makes it copyrightable even though almost all of it is identical to other companies card images. Or a minute derivation from a standard chess piece. I am not sure so I am going to look into this. Rybkovich (talk) 19:47, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
- Even if there are similar logos, it can still be copyrightable. It would not prevent someone else from designing a similar logo, but one which reproduced the exact lines seen in this one could still be a problem. On the other hand, if this is indeed the logo, I don't think the letters-only one is an equivalent substitute. Seems like the usage is valid in at least two of the articles. The other chance is if this exact logo was in use before 1989 or especially 1978; I would suspect that there were many publications of it without a copyright notice, and if so its copyright may have been lost then. I could not find any in a quick search, but the team name has been in use since the 1920s. Carl Lindberg (talk) 03:16, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- I looked and could not find any use of the logo in old media guides or programs. Lets say I did find a pre 1978 poster without a copyright and that had the logo in it - it could be argued that the logo itself would lose the copyright not just the image of the poster? Would it make a difference if there was also another poster with the logo in it but this poster had a copyright? Rybkovich (talk) 05:31, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- If the mascot logo is considered to be public domain per {{WP:NFC#UUI. The reasoning is that in a stand-alone article about an university's athletic department, there is often some discussion of the mascot logo's origin, etc. and, therefore, the contextual significance is achieved in a manner which is similar to the use of non-free cover art in the infoboxes of stand-alone articles about books or albums. In individual team articles, on the other hand, the discussion is primarily focused on the team itself so the usage tends to be more decorative and is generally not considered to be appropriate since the teams are considered to be "child entities" of the athletic department. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:55, 11 January 2016 (UTC)]
- I second that (re only keeping it on the athletic department) the cardinal can be replaced with the CUA on the specific team articles. I gave it some effort and could not find any early use of the logo, so it is very unlikely that it is PD. How do we go about the process? Wait until an administrative decision and then I or someone else make the replacements? Rybkovich (talk) 06:33, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- If the mascot logo is considered to be public domain per {{
- I looked and could not find any use of the logo in old media guides or programs. Lets say I did find a pre 1978 poster without a copyright and that had the logo in it - it could be argued that the logo itself would lose the copyright not just the image of the poster? Would it make a difference if there was also another poster with the logo in it but this poster had a copyright? Rybkovich (talk) 05:31, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
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File:WGEN8.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:02, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:02, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
- File:GenTV.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wcquidditch (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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File:Gautam germany.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as
- File:Gautam germany.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Cool.leena raj (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Picture of a gentleman in a street that adds no value to Wikipedia and illustrates nothing about the gentleman or the street. Purpose appears to be decorative in a draft. Fiddle Faddle 11:48, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gmkarve Fiddle Faddle 17:29, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- As the uploader was blocked when the file was uploaded, you could simply tag the file with {{Stefan2 (talk) 17:36, 4 January 2016 (UTC)]
- As the uploader was blocked when the file was uploaded, you could simply tag the file with {{
- Please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gmkarve Fiddle Faddle 17:29, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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File:Savez Izviđača Kosova i Metohije.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:01, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- File:Savez Izviđača Kosova i Metohije.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kintetsubuffalo (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Non-free logo are being used in
]- Comment: Three other non-free images being used in the same gallery of the "Scouting and Guilding in Kosovo were also discussed at WP:NFCC#4 or is a derivative of such work. Even if the NFCC#4 and NFCC#10 issues could be resolved, the usage still fails NFCC#8 since the image itself is not the subject of any sourced commentary and is included in an sub-section which has no text and has be tagged with {{Expand section}} since June 2008. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:28, 6 January 2016 (UTC)]
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File:Portrait-Beard Andrew Jackson.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Kept _ Peripitus (Talk) 00:49, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- File:Portrait-Beard Andrew Jackson.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Rich Farmbrough (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused fair use image.
- There is no need to list orphaned fair use images on FFD as there is a bot which tags orphaned files. Considering that the file is so old, it is possible that the file is in the public domain, but we would need to know when the picture was first published in order to determine the copyright status. It looks like a scan of a newspaper or some other publication, so the picture has obviously been published, although it is unknown when it was published. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:21, 4 January 2016 (UTC)]
- The file is in fact in use. Speedy keep and close. Fram should be advised to wait a while before hastily moving to nominate an image for deletion. The uploader uploaded the image today. It's rather obvious there was intent to use it. Creating a deletion notice for it being unused on the day it was uploaded just creates work for other people. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:09, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- Strange, I thought our established editors and would-be admins and arbcom members were supposed to follow our fair-use and copyvio policies, not to upload a fair use image and leave it orphaned until some undetermined later moment. The image was created with very incomplete fair use templates, and the editor then went and edited other articles, not showing any intention to use the image. Your "the file is in fact in use" should obviously be corrected to "the file is now in use", thanks to this nomination. Fram (talk) 08:19, 5 January 2016 (UTC)]
- I don't know why this file was orphaned for a short while after it was uploaded. Maybe the uploader forgot to make a planned edit until you reminded the uploader by nominating the file for deletion. In any case, a more appropriate solution is to tag the file for speedy deletion per Stefan2 (talk) 12:45, 6 January 2016 (UTC)]
- Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Fram (talk) 14:41, 6 January 2016 (UTC)]
- Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
- I don't know why this file was orphaned for a short while after it was uploaded. Maybe the uploader forgot to make a planned edit until you reminded the uploader by nominating the file for deletion. In any case, a more appropriate solution is to tag the file for speedy deletion per
- Strange, I thought our established editors and would-be admins and arbcom members were supposed to follow our fair-use and copyvio policies, not to upload a fair use image and leave it orphaned until some undetermined later moment. The image was created with very incomplete fair use templates, and the editor then went and edited other articles, not showing any intention to use the image. Your "the file is in fact in use" should obviously be corrected to "the file is now in use", thanks to this nomination.
- The image should be reduced in size, it is too large for a fair use image anyway (596 × 782, should be 300 by 400 at most, probably less for a simple black and white portrait). Fram (talk) 08:19, 5 January 2016 (UTC)]
- Requested reduction of the image size. Keep the image otherwise, unless a free image can be found.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:26, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
- Bearing in mind that the subject died in 1921, and the photo is significantly older than that, the photo is almost certainly PD and there it is only in an excess of caution that it is listed as fair use. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 06:15, 7 January 2016 (UTC).
- Bearing in mind that the subject died in 1921, and the photo is significantly older than that, the photo is almost certainly PD and there it is only in an excess of caution that it is listed as fair use. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 06:15, 7 January 2016 (UTC).
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File:Harvard International logo.png
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- File:Harvard International logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Cloudbound (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused logo. Accompanying article has been deleted (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harvard International). Cloudbound (talk) 22:42, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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