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Henry Kulka images

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The result of the discussion was: It's been suggested that the files may be PD in their country of origin, but it seems folks are not 100% certain about this. There is also weak consensus that 14 images is excessive, but it's not clear from the discussion which images should be removed. Given that this has been open for several months and no new comments have added since October, I'm closing this as no consensus/not actionable as-is, with no prejudice to individual renomination of the files below -FASTILY 05:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File:Parker store.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 
File:Maple furniture.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Friedlander House, Masons avenue, Herne Bay, Auckland. View of lounge taken from elevated dining niche. Designed by Henry Kulka in 1967.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Roberta Ave House, 1962.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Innes Schweppes - Coca Cola Building designed and realised by Henry Kulka on the Corner of Victoria Street, Hamilton, New Zealand in 1955.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Photographer Cedric Firth for architect Henry Kulka, 1955. Staircase study..jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Fisher and Paykel (F&P) head offices and factory. Designed by architect Henry Kulka. Mt Wellington, Auckland, New Zealand, 1955.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Fletcher Building Head Office in Penrose, Auckland, New Zealand. Designed by Henry Kulka. Interior view of curved staircase inside the entrance. 1941.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Front south facing façade and front entry of wooden Bungalow for Dr E. Meyer, Springcombe Avenue, St Heliers Bay, Auckland. Designed and realised in 1962..jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Villa Kantor Raumplan in Jablonec Nad Nisou. View of south facing garden façade. Villa realised autonomously by Henry Kulka in 1934.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Original interior photograph of the Villa Kantor Raumplan designed and realised by Henry Kulka for Dr Kantor in Jablonec Nad Nisou , Czechoslovakia, in 1934.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Villa Semler, galleried Raumplan apartment, realised in 1933-4 for Oskar Semler at Klatovska St, Pilsen, Czechoslovakia. View from lower hall into main lower lounge and fireplace in fire niche with lowered ceiling.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Villa Khuner. Double level gallery view down to fireplace and dining niche. Kreutzberg, Semmering, Austria in 1930.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Villa Khuner, Eastern façade, Kreutzberg, Semmering, Austria in 1930.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wasuwatanabe (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Fourteen non-free files of buildings or interiors designed by architect
MOS:SANDWICHing issues; these things, however, should be fairly easy to sort out once the non-free issues have been resolved. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:38, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment So I did some basic research on the Villa Khuner photographs
    talk) 19:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep and move to commons as PD per above rationale. Buffs (talk) 17:28, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Not excessive: The fourteen images are not an excessive number of images to illustrate the diverse and important architectural points in Kulkas work alongside descriptions in the Henry Kulka article. The not-free use exceptions and image numbers conform to the Wiki rules and Wiki exceptions rules. Each image has been chosen by a group of experts (academic) associated with the Kulka Foundation, a Registered charity to study and curate the works of Kulka. Each photo has been chosen by experts on Kulka to illustrate a unique category of information, whether 1) a period of work of Kulka with Adolf Loos, 2) relating to raumplan theory, or 3) an important typological variant, or 4) a new geography after forced exodus during world war 2 or 5) the separation between his European and South Pacific work or 6) the difference between his commercial structures or his private commissions.
    The suggestion to remove these expertly chosen images from this site is inexpert, cavalier and would clearly be detrimental to enabling readers and scholars to get an aesthetic sense of interiors and exteriors that informing about specific aesthetic differences in time-place and in context. Taking these images off would be detrimental to the readers proper understanding of these differences and points in the evolution of works as physicalised ideas.
    For example one editor above suggests that seven non free use photos are excessive for his work in NZ but Kulka’s predominant career was in NZ as the chief architect for Fletchers the country’s largest commercial building company and he separately ran a private practice - it is reasonable to have three or four images for each practice set. The initiating arguments hint at a dispassionate motivation behind the suggested removal and reclassification. ‘The Kulka Foundation’ refutes the approach to dissembling a thoughtfully published set of accompanying images.
    Copyrights: All images uploaded under non-free use are those where Kulka, who died in 1970, through his Estate in NZ and Europe, still has a potent copyright interest either 1) by way of his financial commission, 2) his copyright in the architectural object-subject he created or co-created, or 3) by virtue of his 'direction of the taking of the image’ under the copyright laws at the time of image production by collaborating photographers. To move the images into Commons as some of the inexpert but no doubt well meaning editors ( indicating ‘ basic research was undertaken by them’) suggest above, would be a copyright violation under both Austrian and NZ copyright laws. The aforementioned comments and suggestions regarding the Khuner photos are an example of a route to copyright abuse because Kulka was a co-creator ‘of’ the Khuner structures themselves, and a director of the image notwithstanding its being taken by Gerlach, and Kulka a commissioner of their execution. The copyright is therefore Kulkas. The uploader has consulted copyright specialists qualified from the University of Oxford and can provide administrators with opinions and the statement of ownership of the owners of the copyright. The other images under non free use were permitted by the Kulka Estate, on the request of the Kulka Foundation. That Registered Charitable and Curatorial Foundation comprises a group of scholars in modernist architecture with specific knowledge about Kulka and his Czech, Austrian and South Pacific ouvre. Expert and professional legal intellectual property advice was sought by the uploader (representing the Foundation ) for each and every image - who commissioned it, who directed it, whose attribution of the object taken. Legal documentation and proofs were kept of such advice for each image and were shared with the Adminstrator. Please note, violations of the Kulkas Copyright found on the internet Commons do not make it safe for Wiki editors to use this violation as a modus/pretext to move the non-free use classification of the image to Commons, particularly after we submit this addendum fore warning. That would be a wilful wrong.
    We request that the images be left, as they have been carefully published and categorised, to enrich the understanding of Kulkas’ work, which, being a building art, must be viewed as an image accompanying a description of attribution, provenance, typology, chronological order, geography and creative differentiation - which the article with the image selection does.
    Note: We request that the administrators kindly remove the ‘files for discussion’ notices’ from each image please. --Wasuwatanabe 02:23, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Trim number of images Obviously, if any of these actually do turn out to be PD, then they should be moved to Commons and kept. But regardless of who the person is, WP has a non-free content policy with the goal to limit the amount of non-free image usage, including a per-page issue. Henry Kulka does not seem to have as many notability buildings like Frank Lloyd Wright (where these buildings would have their own pages and thus the images could be there), so we have to be much more selective as to what images are used. We need to go by what sources are available to give us critical commentary as to use only those images that best reflect those sources. (And to that end the article is drastially missing sources on much of its content which is not helpful here). For example the interior shot of the Harvey House is support in text via the "violin" comparison (with source) so that would be one to keep, but the next one down of the Meyer house has no discussion in the text and thus inappropriate to have. What the exact number is appropriate is hard to say, but based on how few seem supported by text, I think we're looking at 4-5 non-free at most, and that discounts what images are also PD that can be used. --Masem (t) 04:30, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Giving Voice to a Building: A Critical Analysis of Adolf Loos's Landhaus Khuner" (PDF). Retrieved 20 July 2021.
  2. ^ WINKLER, SUSANNE. "Photography : WIEN MUSEUM". Retrieved 20 July 2021. Martin Gerlach Jr. (1879-1944)
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File:Atlanta 96 Gold - Copy.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Consensus is clear, use of this image is not compliant with

WP:NFCC#8. However, no prejudice to restoration if the article in question is significantly expanded to explicitly discuss this image in-depth -FASTILY 05:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply
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File:Atlanta 96 Gold - Copy.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Niteshift36 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 
Non-free use in
WP:NFCCE. This could possibly be a keep if the file's use in the 1996 article can be better justified; otherwise, the file will most likely need to be deleted. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:27, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - The fact that Miller won a gold medal is adequately conveyed with the text and does not need a non-free image. Fails
    WP:NFCC#1. -- Whpq (talk) 02:04, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply
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The removal of the image does not detract from the understanding in the article. Why must we see this image and medal to understand the article on Miller. Also,
WP:THOUSANDWORDS. -- Whpq (talk) 14:52, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
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File:We Don't Need to Whisper Acoustic EP.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. If anyone has an official photo/screenshot, feel free to overwrite this image -FASTILY 04:41, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The file is a LucasFilm image of

WP:NFCC#1 is violated. The file is therefore nominated to be deleted. 廣九直通車 (talk) 05:47, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply
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I've also asked for further copyright advice on
WP:MCQ#Star Wars Stormtrooper and File:Stormtrooper (Star Wars).png, but it seems that no response have been made.廣九直通車 (talk) 05:48, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply
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File:Regiment of Artillery logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: keep. MBisanz talk 19:03, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File:Regiment of Artillery logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:NLI Regiment logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:AK Regiment logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Baloch Regiment logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:FF Regiment logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Punjab Regiment logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Pakistan Armoured Corps logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Corps of AAD logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Corps of Engineers logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Army Ordinance Core logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Core of Military Intelligence logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
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File:Services Core logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:EME Core logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Army Medical Core logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by GC Saab (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Almost certain these would all fall under the license of non-free symbol as copyrighted designs of the Pakistan Army and that they have just been mis-licensed. I however came across this file on Commons which threw some doubt into my mind. If the decision is that they are non-free then they should be removed from the List of serving generals of the Pakistan Army and Pakistan Army articles. The few symbols that are used in the infobox of the specific military unit should be re-licensed and kept (namely File:Regiment of Artillery logo.png, File:Punjab Regiment logo.png, File:Pakistan Armoured Corps logo.png, File:Corps of AAD logo.png, File:Corps of Engineers logo.png, File:Army Ordinance Core logo.png and File:EME Core logo.png). Salavat (talk) 14:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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@Salavat: I've relicensed all the above files for their respective articles except File:Baloch Regiment logo.png + removed all files from other articles except their respective articles and also removed/relicensed all the files uploaded on commons by User:GC Saab. I hope deletition will now closed since I've removed all confusions/perspectives regarding copyvios.Wallu2 (talk) 10:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Love Train - O'Jays.jpg

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File:Love Train - O'Jays.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by JGabbard (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The US release lacks a picture sleeve, yet the US market share was larger than the rest of the world at the time. Yeah well, I'm summarizing what the uploader (the same who uploaded this image and the other image I previously nominated) said at the other FFD discussion. To put it another way, the American music industry has been very important. Out of huge single releases at the time, Americans received the single release using just a generic sleeve. The US release hasn't been distributed with a picture on the front cover.

I don't think a picture sleeve of an overseas release of "

WP:NFCC#1
. Moreover, the picture sleeve wasn't well identified without a caption. Whether enjoyment of the article or the song may be affected by deletion of the sleeve isn't part of NFCC. Understanding the song (or the single release) with or without the image is part of the NFCC.

Well, it's not like "I Need You (Eric Carmen song)", whose non-free lead image was kept by default. Rather I hope to compare this with "Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing". This isn't the case of whether the song has more than one version. Instead, this is more about identifiable releases (of the same version of the song). George Ho (talk) 18:07, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Where are you getting information about the sleeve cover? It looks like you also changed
    talk) 16:10, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply
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    45cat.com shows images of the Dutch and German releases, which contain the same picture sleeve. The US release lacks one. Even the German release of the Donny and Marie Osmond version of "Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing" has a picture sleeve, while the US release doesn't. I can show you images from discogs, a user-generated website, if you like. If you don't believe in 45cat or discogs, then I don't know how else to convince you. If only eBay listings show more images of the releases.... George Ho (talk) 23:16, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment: Very surprised that neither 45Cat nor discogs (2 US entries) have one. I tend to believe them, even though they are "not
    WP:RS." Maybe, as US artists, the company assumed the American public would know better who they were buying? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:28, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply
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    If curious, you can look up sources discussing vinyl singles sleeves or use the Wikipedia Library. You'll learn history of releasing singles before CDs. George Ho (talk) 10:47, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the links. The first has "No preview available" for me. I'm not sure there is anything there which might answer the question here. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:49, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails

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  • Delete It is possible that the batteries no longer work, but most phones can get electricity by connecting a cable to the phone if you wish to run the software. Note that the software is unfree, but the photo still fails
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The result of the discussion was: keep. MBisanz talk 19:02, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File:Gojira - Ocean Planet.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Oroborvs (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free music sample claimed to be used for the purpose: "specifically discusses the themes Gojira evokes in its album From Mars to Sirius" but no such discussion about this song exists in the article. Fails

WP:NFCC#3b. Whpq (talk) 01:50, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply
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If the issue is addressed, then we can re-examine this but I would think that the From Mars to Sirius article would make much more sense as the place for such material and this sound sample if such critical analysis were to be added. -- Whpq (talk) 11:09, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. After a few hours of thinking, the file moves to the From Mars to Sirius article. I uploaded another version of the sample: 30 s, 55 kbps. Oroborvs (talk) 14:25, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment - I suggested that the album would be the more natural place for the file and its accompanying sourced critical commentary. The image has been moved but there has been nothing about the song sample. -- Whpq (talk) 21:08, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment - The primary purpose of the non-free music sample was to illustrate the theme of the From Mars to Sirius album in Gojira's article, but I have no problem if it has been moved to the album page since its use on the latter is more relevant. Oroborvs (talk) 10:54, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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See

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File:BrazosValleywithRiverMap.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dri3s (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Orphaned, low quality, superseded by File:BrazosValleyMap.jpg. plicit 11:57, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 14:39, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Per COM:FOP India, freedom of panorama does not extend to 2D works. Photos of this plaque cannot be released under a free license. plicit 12:32, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Low quality, the source link is dead and the file is not used anywhere onwiki, no obvious use with current WPTC image standards. Sennecaster (Chat) 13:15, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 14:39, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Copenhagen - the little mermaid statue - 2013.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Convert to {{

PD-US-1923-abroad}} -FASTILY 22:19, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply
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Why is this tagged as non-free instead of {{

Stefan2 (talk) 14:58, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply
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How I've been told is that works that are not free in their home country but are free in the US need NFURs anyway. I don't think that adding a {{PD-US-expired-abroad}} would disrupt or conflict with anything else listed. Sennecaster (Chat) 17:07, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If a file is free in the United States but not in the source country, then it is treated as a free file on English Wikipedia, but should be tagged with an appropriate template like {{
Stefan2 (talk) 18:22, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply
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Photos of this statue have been previously discussed at
PD-US-1923-abroad}}. It was tagged with {{Do not move to Commons}} with this edit in 2015, but it remained under only a {{self}} license until earlier this year. Photos of the statue were uploaded and deleted a number of times over the years under different file names (File:Den lille havfru.jpg, File:Mermaid Statue Copy in Dallas Texas.jpg, File:The Little Mermaid Statue Copenhagen Denmark.jpg, and File:The Little Mermaid en.jpg) and people just probably never made the connection between them before until Stefan2 did here. Whether all the deleted files can be restored is unclear; if, however, the consensus is that this latest one need not be non-free, then the non-free license should be replaced per Stefan2 above. Finally, this is not really a discussion for this FFD per se, but there should be some way to better tie in discussions about essentially the same file under different file names so as to perhaps avoid things such as this. There's nothing like a {{Afdx}} template for FFD discussions and the talk pages of files that end deleted typically aren't tagged with {{Oldffdfull}}: even if they were, file talk pages almost always are deleted when a file is deleted. So, unless you've been involved in previous discussions about such a file or just happen to notice something odd, any re-uploads or a deleted file are likely going to go unnoticed for quite some time. So, if this file's licensing is changed as Stefan2 suggests, there should be something added to it's talk page which connects it to all of the previous discussions about previous photos of the statues for reference purposes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:56, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply
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At least one of the photos was deleted because there was no evidence of permission from the photographer. I think that the rest can be undeleted and tagged as {{
PD-US-1923-abroad}}, unless there is reason to believe that there is no evidence of permission from the photographers. If you read The Little Mermaid (statue)#Copyright issues
, you will find that the heirs suddenly dropped a claim for compensation in the United States. It doesn't say why the claim was dropped, so maybe they just tried to back off quietly after they discovered that the copyright already had expired in the United States.
Commons sorts many deletion requests into categories, so deletion requests for photos of this statue would normally be sorted into both
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File:CHippendale plaque in Otley, where Thomas Chippendale was born.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Markdask (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

I'm not sure this qualifies for fair use. As far as I'm aware, the plaque still exists, so someone could still go there and create a free replacement of this photo. Ixfd64 (talk) 18:11, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Srch9.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hietanbs (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The image is not on the linked web page.[3] No other source provided by the uploader.

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File:Party affiliations in the European Council (21 February 2009).png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Damian Radu (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused, no foreseeable use. Lacks explanation of what the colours mean.

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Unused, no foreseeable use.

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File:Traxxas tmaxxs.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Triddle (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

See

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File:WikiCup Medal Gold Final 8.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Fox (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

See

Stefan2 (talk) 18:59, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply
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Delete, ideally we could replace it with something since it's still used in a lot of places, mostly historical or archives. — 🦊 21:01, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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File:TimberJimVan.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nborders1972 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

It says that the Image creator has given permission to use on the Wikipedia website. This sounds more like {{

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File:Denver Basin Cross Sections.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lcliff4 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused, no foreseeable use.

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File:Nese 2018 cropped.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vjmlhds (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused crop. No foreseeable use.

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File:Male Bathroom Symbol.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RedAndGold (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused, no foreseeable use.

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File:Expandable Water Toy.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Devon Cosgrove (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

See

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File:CSG Willem van Oranje.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Supersemmie (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused textlogo. No foreseeable use.

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File:Katzsh.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Amoruso (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Sourced to

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Unused, no foreseeable use.

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File:Polke Spiderman.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mofrikaantje (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Overwritten file: two in one. Both are missing evidence of permission.

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File:Body burden of lead fancient and modern humans compared.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jrandomcanuck (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The source claims to be cc-by-nc-sa, not cc-by-sa.

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File:MGS sports hall interior.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Justcop3 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Although it says author donates, it doesn't say who the author is.

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Unused crop of

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File:RPRhartaadminitial.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Rgvis (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Replaced by

Stefan2 (talk) 20:52, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply
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Delete, thank you. (Rgvis (talk) 18:04, 11 October 2021 (UTC))[reply]
  • Delete, redundant to SVG file. Salavat (talk) 14:46, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Overwritten file: two in one.

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See

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Unused, no foreseeable use.

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File:The Salt Company Logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jacobagron (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused, no foreseeable use. Possibly related to

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File:Soviet Major General Tikhon Fyodorovich Yegoshin.jpg

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File:Soviet Major General Tikhon Fyodorovich Yegoshin.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wreck Smurfy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Source

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File:Jansher Khan while in press confrence.jpg

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File:Jansher Khan while in press confrence.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ayaz SherKhan (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The watermark suggests it comes from a TV programme or something.

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File:K-pop artists through history.jpg

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File:K-pop artists through history.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Nairb.Idi9 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused, unsourced.

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File:Fabian Society coat of arms.jpg

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File:Fabian Society coat of arms.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hondo55 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Incomplete, unverifiable source.

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File:Worcester Six memorial at Franklin Street Fire Station.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Converted to non-free -FASTILY 22:24, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File:Worcester Six memorial at Franklin Street Fire Station.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dmoore5556 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

See

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  • I am the original uploader (on Wikipedia) of the image. Consistent with the above, I've converted the rationale to non-free, and have updated a lower-resolution version of the image. Dmoore5556 (talk) 17:35, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Maldives Visa Requirements Map April 2015.svg

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File:Maldives Visa Requirements Map April 2015.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Sputink (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Unused, all data is [

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File:Los-angeles.jpg

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File:Los-angeles.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RyGuy17 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Incomplete source. Impossible to verify public domain claim.

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File:Timothée Chalamet Wonka.jpg

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File:Timothée Chalamet Wonka.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Samoht99 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

potential copyright infringement, non-free image for non-encyclopedic purpose HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 22:19, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Song of the Korean People's Army, Instrumental Version.ogg

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RoyalCathayan (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log
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Music by Ra Kuk (라국/羅菊), no evidence of permission. Sound recording and performance of unknown provenance.

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File:Betty Chancellor actress.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. No prejudice to restoration if someone is able to create a valid fair use claim for it. -FASTILY 22:19, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File:Betty Chancellor actress.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Roryjohnston (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Conflicting copyright information. Both cc-by and cc-by-nc-nd are mentioned on the file information page. No evidence of permission for either licence.

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File:Omernos-new1.jpg

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File:Omernos-new1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Omernos (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Overwritten file: two in one. Unused userphotos, no foreeable use.

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