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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:19, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Airline destinations → Airport#External links  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Well, the section exists and is what you'd expect but.... this is a bit

• Delete we have
  WP:NOTDIR. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 05:15, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
  ]

Before 2009 (with this edit) it targeted

WP:PTM for lots of articles that include "Airline destinations" (which Special:Search?search=Airline+destinations happily finds for the top search results). Si Trew (talk) 04:27, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply

]

• Delete as vague. Every flight has a destination ... at least that's the plan upon takeoff. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:53, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete and retarget to Ekaterina Sedia, respectively. --BDD (talk) 21:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Kubbestol → Chair  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Sedia → Chair  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not related to these languages. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 04:30, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Not per
  WP:EN . Devopam (talk) 06:41, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Delete per nom. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:53, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• 'Retarget
  sedia to Ekaterina Sedia as {{R from surname}} and add a wiktionary box. Delete the other per above. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 21:15, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
  ]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Warehouse party → Acid house  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redirect this to Rave instead, because that would probably be a better target. In the alternative, just delete it. The connection between source and target is totally unclear as it stands.Jehochman ^Talk 02:57, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - I don't see the use of this. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 03:45, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - the connection is not clear.--
  WP:WAWARD) 20:57, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Retarget to Rave, which uses the term "warehouse" 22 times to indicate a common venue, and "warehouse party" and "warehouse parties" outright in a couple of places. Si Trew (talk) 04:28, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I'm not convinced that "warehouse party" is synonymous with "rave." Jehochman and SimonTrew, have you found sources that treat these terms as synonyms? -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:57, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:55, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Natalie Imbruglia (band) → Natalie Imbruglia  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Misleading disambiguator, not a band. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 01:47, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete misleading. Devopam (talk) 06:28, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Rob Zombie has famously said that yes he is a person, but when he is on stage he is in a band that happens to share the same name, and he would like people to distinguish between the two identities. And Alice Cooper has often done interviews and had to ask the interviewer which Alice he was asking. So, while the Natalie Imbriglia band page redirects to the personal page, there are people who will want info on the band and not the person. Without the redirect, they may be on the hunt for, or willing to create, a band page. Kellymoat (talk) 21:44, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • There isn't even the need for any disambiguator in this case, let alone an incorrect one, people will get what they are looking for as the article covers multiple identities. We do not have other similar redirects like this for it may be too POV-pushing. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 21:58, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • I certainly don't want separate articles, but I see nothing wrong with keeping the redirect alive. However, I would point out that Alice Cooper has 3 pages. The
      personnel page for the solo act.Kellymoat (talk) 22:54, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
      ]
      • That is a separate issue not to be discussed at RFD. If you have any concerns please raise them on that article's talk page. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 23:04, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        • Oh, no, I am not complaining. I actually prefer that some of these things have separate articles because they are separate entities that should have separate entries. I was just pointing out that it is not unheard of to have a band and personal page. In this case, Natalie Imbriglia, I voted to keep the redirect because they are separate entities even though it is not worth two separate articles. Afterall, isn't that why we use redirects. Kellymoat (talk) 12:59, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and scrutinize the contribs of the redirect's creator - they created several of these unnecessary (band) redirects. We have {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} but I don't see this as being a likely search at all. Might be useful in cases where a person's stage persona is notably separate from their individual persona, as is the case with Alice Cooper and Rob Zombie as noted above, even if we don't have separate articles, but there's no indication of that being the case with Natalie Imbruglia. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:31, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I'll grant Alice Cooper as a case where there is an obvious context for "Alice Cooper the band" as a separate topic from "Alice Cooper né Vincent Furnier the person" — for one thing, "Alice Cooper" was originally the name of the band and not the name of the person; it became the name of the person only several albums later, after the band gave up on trying to correct people about "Alice Cooper means the band and not Vincent". But that's also a case where Alice Cooper and Alice Cooper (band) are actually already two separate standalone articles, and does not demonstrate the need for every musician who happens to be billed as a solo artist to have a redirect from "Name (band)" back to "Name" just because she's technically also the leader of an eponymous "band" of session musicians. If there were somehow legitimate grounds for "Natalie Imbruglia the band" to have a separate article from "Natalie Imbruglia the person", then this would be the correct title for that — but there's no need for it to exist as a redirect back to Natalie Imbruglia the person. Bearcat (talk) 21:29, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• რუსული ენა → Russian language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not related to Georgian. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 01:23, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete : Not per
  WP:EN Devopam (talk) 06:43, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
  ]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to High German languages. --BDD (talk) 20:51, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• HighGerman → German language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

On several occasions this has indeed targeted High German languages but there has never been a discussion. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 01:17, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• This is a no-brainer. It's a camel case redirect that's existed since 2001, so we should keep it around.
  High German has been a redirect to High German languages for over a decade, so this should point to the same article. Retarget. - Eureka Lott 16:18, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Retarget to
  Middle German is a DAB, we don't have MiddleGerman. Si Trew (talk) 04:36, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Retarget per Si Trew. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:51, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 21:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Молдовеняскэ language → Moldovan language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Mixed language title, not a likely search term. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 01:15, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Not just mixed languages, but mixed alphabets. IMO "not a likely search term" is an underestimate - I cannot see anyone, ever, searching for this. Narky Blert (talk) 23:07, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as above. We don't even have plain молдовеняскэ, a far more likely redirect. (I imagine someone will create it now, unnecessarily.) Si Trew (talk) 04:57, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as it seems very unlikely that somebody would type one word in Moldovan and the next in English.
  HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 10:07, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result of the discussion was keep.---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 21:32, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Twttr → Twitter  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Smbdy hs brkn kybrd gn. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 01:11, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - This is nonsense. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 03:46, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment (Neutral) - ...not according to the section Twitter#Creation and initial reaction of the target article, in which this exact spelling is mentioned as a working title. The redirect should probably be retargeted to that specific section if kept. I agree that there are some doubts about the redirect's usefulness as a search term, which is why I am neutral. --SoledadKabocha (talk) 04:38, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per SoledadKabocha. Nothing to do with a broken keyboard. — This, that and the other (talk) 05:26, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • My comment about the broken keyboard was a joke, see Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_December_5#Str_wrs. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 09:50, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy keep per SoledadKabocha - it's not inconceivable to look for a company (or a band...) using a formerly used name. Mihirpmehta (talk • contribs) 09:40, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per users above.
  Lepricavark (talk) 15:55, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Delete - I can't believe this even being discussed - its an empty crisp packet drifting on a cold breeze along a deserted street in Siberia - in midwinter - useless. Mark^Dask 02:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as {{R from former name}}, probably refine to section as above. Si Trew (talk) 05:00, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as a former name. It's mentioned in the first public tweet. (For a good cringe, look up the original twttr logo.) - Eureka Lott 14:50, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - the service's original name, clearly useful. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:52, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as {{R from former name}} per those above.— Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 04:43, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:44, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Touiteur → Twitter  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Obscure synonym, not plausible. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 01:10, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Not per
  WP:EN. Devopam (talk) 06:33, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
  ]
  • This has got nothing to do with
    WP:EN. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 06:44, 6 December 2016 (UTC)`[reply
    ]

It does if you think that redirects should generally follow [{WP:TITLE]] (with obvious exceptions for lots of specific categories). Si Trew (talk) 04:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, not at target.
  WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. fr:Touiteur redirects to fr:Twitter (but it's not mentioned there either). This seems to be a former name of an app called "Plume for Twitter" (see this blog entry) but we don't seem to have any info on EN:WP about it (not at List_of_Twitter_services_and_applications or in Category:Twitter_services_and_applications, for example, though I did a general search too). Si Trew (talk) 04:44, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Comment Google indicates that a francophone female Twitterer might be a Touiteuse. Si Trew (talk) 04:47, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as it seems very unlikely "Twitter" would be searched for in French, a foreign language with no primary affinity to the topic.
  HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 10:04, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 20:43, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Telautomaton → Robot  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Obscure search term, misleading. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 00:53, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - This term appears to have a clear-cut primary usage to refer to Tesla's 1898 concept of a radio controlled boat (see here). This seems to be a case of
  WP:REDLINK. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:14, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply
  ]

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The result of the discussion was delete. I think we can all agree that "Alien sideboob" is not a synonym for the game itself, so the question becomes whether there will be information on the phrase at the target article. Given a comment on the talk page, its recent removal as noted here, and the fact that the target article is a GA, I judge that the article is considered stable without such information. Restoration of this redirect would be appropriate

iff consensus could be built to include the information. --BDD (talk) 20:42, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply

]

• Alien sideboob → Mass Effect (video game)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Non-notable meme, not mentioned in target, unlikely search candidate Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 00:00, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - This did make me giggle, though. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:02, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete out of context. Devopam (talk) 06:34, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  @Devopam: The context was removed in a good faith edit, and since restored. –xeno^talk 14:54, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Previously kept at RfD here: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 May 27#Alien_sideboob. Mention of the meme was removed in this edit. It gets some pageviews, but not really that many. –xeno^talk 18:51, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  I've restored the context and retargeted the redirect back to the section to which it was intended. Keep. –xeno^talk 14:52, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  The restoration was reverted.— Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 04:48, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and restore content. This particularly phrase is basically exclusively used to refer to the sex controversy for Mass Effect. I don't think there's any other target. ---- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 21:26, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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