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June 3

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 3, 2018.

Draft:Rice gum is a famous youtuber with almost 5 million subscribers. Rice gum has contributed to the society by being the most lit person ever. Rice gum is 18 years old

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The result of the discussion was delete. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Unencyclopedic 'title' (more like a mini-article in the title), no inbound links. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 22:47, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete., probably speedy delete as vandalism. no possible use, and the text would be speedy deleted as an article. DGG ( talk ) 22:53, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I'm not convinced this was vandalism, but certainly it is of no benefit to anyone as a redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 23:13, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as useless. Probably a copy-paste or "which field do I type in?" error, not vandalism.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete as spam/promotional, in case CSD G11 doesn't take. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:43, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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The Dreams That Stuff Is Made of: The Most Astounding Papers of Quantum Physics and How They Shook the Scientific World' is a 2011 book by English physicist Stephen Hawking.

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The result of the discussion was delete. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:45, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Useless - effectively a dictionary definition of the target as a redirect. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 22:44, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, if this stopped after "Scientific World" this would be a good redirect from the full title of a work, but not with the description after that. Note also the unpaired quotation mark. Thryduulf (talk) 22:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Same mistake as in the case immediately above this (and
    The Dreams That Stuff Is Made of: The Most Astounding Papers of Quantum Physics and How They Shook the Scientific World already redirects to the article).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete not useful to make the article title a statement. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:44, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Wheels Entertainments Ltd + Wheels Entertainments Ltd. + Wheels Entertainments Limited + Wheels Entertainment + Wheels Entertainment Ltd + Wheels Entertainment Ltd. + Wheels Entertainment Limited

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Someone can add this to
WP:DAFT too. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:40, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
]

Left behind after target page was moved - appears to be a set of possible renderings of the target's name. Not useful, anyone searching for any of these would find the article just fine. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 22:37, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. This title was created by
    Wheels Entertainments Ltd (which remains as a good redirect). It appears to have been a misunderstanding of a request to create multiple redirects as a request to create one long one. As HMSSolent moved the page (fixing their earlier error) 35 minutes after creation in 2013 there ins't any need to keep it around. Thryduulf (talk) 23:06, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete as an obvious error.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:29, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete per G1 patent nonsense. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:45, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Prolegomena to Any Future Metaphysics That Will Be Able to Come Forward As Science: Kant, Immanuel Stock Image View Larger Image Prolegomena to Any Future Metaphysics That Will Be Able to Come Forward As Science

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. ansh666 19:29, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Incredibly unlikely search term, contains seemingly copy-pasted alt-text ("Kant, Immanuel Stock Image View Larger Image"). ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 22:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:MOS:

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The result of the discussion was keep. Consensus is that these are useful, but I do want to call out Oiyarbepsy's comment (ideally all of our MOS redirects would look like this) was particularly persuasive (colons versus slashes aside). ~ Amory (u • t • c) 11:17, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[Some more added by SMcCandlish:]

Delete; similar to

pseudo-namespace that does not need to be preceded by "Wikipedia:". — Godsy (TALKCONT) 22:03, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
]

Update - While the bug report from 2015 still shows as open/unresolved I did some testing and believe the underlying issue for why I created the
Wikipedia:MOS:DISAMBIG redirect has been resolved. The problem was that the search indexer was filing with pages names starting with MOS: and H: in the wrong namespace meaning the search hints were both failing and at times giving suggestions for pages that did not exist as clicking on the search suggestion landed the person in the wrong namespace. The redirect was added so if someone realized that MOS: was failing that they would then try WP:MOS:... or Wikipedia:MOS:... in the search box to find the template. Thus, I'm now supporting deletion of the Wikipedia:MOS:DISAMBIG redirect. --Marc Kupper|talk 06:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
]
  • Keep I always type "WP:MOS" when I want to get there. That's why I moved the original. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 15:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. In my opinion, discussions like this make me believe that it's time to propose that the "MOS:" prefix become either its own namespace (maybe done longhand as "Manual of style") or a alias for the "Wikipedia:" namespace. (I'd support the former over the latter since making "MOS:" an alias for the "Wikipedia:" namespace will probably create some technical conflicts with some existing titles, such as
    MOS:STYLE ... which is probably not the best example since they both are redirects that target the same target, but most likely, there are some examples of pairs that target different targets.) That, and now we have MOS:EL, a disambiguation page representing pages with the prefix "MOS:", but technically, the aforementioned page is in the "(article)" namespace. Steel1943 (talk) 16:52, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep all per
    WP:CHEAP, Thryddulf and others. I'm a copyeditor, and whoever tried to fix what wasn't broken has cost me a lot more wikitime trying to find what I used to find quickly and easily in the MOS. Miniapolis 14:46, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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MoS:

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The result of the discussion was keep. Consensus here seems less strong than the related WP:MOS redirects, but it seems folks think these to be useful. I acknowledge that, yes, per
WP:R#D6, XNRs generally aren't grand, as well as a longstanding aversion 'round these parts to return to the proliferation of pesudo-namespaces we once had. Still, the arguments that these are likely to be helpful and that spread is likely to be minimal are convincing to me. Wikipedia:Shortcut#Pseudo-namespaces suggests MoS doesn't have strong support, and while I'm not about to change that based off of this result, perhaps in fact it might. Pseudo-namespaces aren't set in stone, they're what we want. Some of the ones created after the 2014 RfC might be reasonably considered on an individual basis, but I find a consensus to keep this nomination as a whole. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 11:37, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
]
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mainspace. Should we accept the ~30 of these redirects and endorse them as appropriate, reject and delete them, or accept the ones that currently exist but discourage new ones? — Godsy (TALKCONT) 18:23, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
]

A similar number of "Mos:" redirects exist. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 19:24, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Help:Template names, variable names and parameters depending on a variable or parameter

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The result of the discussion was keep. That's good enough for me, no harm in mirroring meta if we can. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 10:22, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Incredibly unlikely search term owing to its length, no inbound links. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 18:20, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Florencia 13 and Mara Salvatrucha

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 12#Florencia 13 and Mara Salvatrucha

Template:Update needed

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Template:Update inline. I'll go through and change these, and update the pages and this as I do so (help appreciated). ~ Amory (u • t • c) 14:50, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I had to fight
WP:AWB/TR). I've left user(sub)pages alone. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 16:24, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
]
Retarget to Template:Update inline. When someone types {{update needed}} or {{dated info}}, they probably mean to immediately place a "needs update" notice, rather than to place one at some point in the future as {{update after}} does.

Note the redirects currently have 95 existing transclusions that would need to be updated, either to use {{update after}} directly or to pass the date via |date= instead of |1= and |2=. Anomie⚔ 17:32, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget Yeah, if I wanted to tag something as needing an update I'd use {{
    dated info}} etc, and I'd expect that to go to {{update inline}} Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:28, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'll gladly update the usages if this goes forward, but given that there are some uses, not all were created before the proposed target, and the 3-4x different usage between the current and proposed target, some more input would be nice.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:00, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Last chance, anyone have additional input? I'm still happy to change these, but again, I'd like to see at least a little more discussion given all the usages, etc. Bueller?
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  • Retarget per nom. The current targeting is confusing and leads to incorrect uses of {{update after}}. — JJMC89 (T·C) 18:48, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget. I'd meant to list this one myself years ago while doing
    WP:WikiProject Inline templates cleanup work, and forgot about it. Remember to update the template documentation; it likely mentions some or all of the redirects as pointing to it. May also need to look for syntax differences; templates often cannot be merged/replaced without using AWB to fix up the template calls and their syntax.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Voting and elections

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The result of the discussion was delete. This was close, but I think the discussion here leans delete. I'll preface this by saying that "per
WP:XY" is a valid but boring reason, and repeating it doesn't offer much additional as this isn't a !vote, but where the rubber hits the road is really in the replies. There are good reasons to ignore WP:XY, but it essentially boils down to there being a place where these are discussed or at least mentioned together. I am unconvinced by the keep !voters that Election is the clear intent for someone using this, especially that Voting isn't. Indeed, as suggested below, there are even other possibilities where this could reasonably be useful. I'm not certain there isn't some other good target for this, but that just gets us further and further down the hole. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 22:24, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
]

WP:XY, note that voting is a separate article. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:54, 24 May 2018 (UTC)[reply
]

WP:XY
issue. I'd like to get away from relisting these, but that needs more input!
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Bubblegum rap

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The result of the discussion was retarget to
(non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 10:25, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
]

the subject is not mentioned in the target. the timelines for Rap music and bubblegum pop do not seem to have overlapped and a search on the web does not seem to show a connection between the 2 subjects Dom from Paris (talk) 12:02, 16 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steel1943 (talk) 14:06, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Wikipedia:SOUL

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, the soul of Wikipedia delete. -- Tavix (talk) 03:39, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Target does not mention shortcut. Apparently there used to be a dedicated page to the "Soul" videogame, long gone. — JFG talk 17:23, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete or retarget to WP:WikiProject R&B and Soul Music?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 15:17, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete marginally, since the project is inactive, for use if/when people want it Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - can always be recreated if and when a subproject (or other project entirely) wants it. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 17:18, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete leave it open for someone to make use of Legacypac (talk) 22:08, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Elle boutique

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 03:36, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The boutique is a international chain of stores in at least a dozen countries according to their website. No mention of it in the target (the Indian edition of the magazine by the same name). No mention of the store in Elle (magazine) either. So with no good target, delete. MB 02:08, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That makes no sense to me as there is no mention of the stores in the article. MB 18:34, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Delete confusing redirect and confusing keep logic. Legacypac (talk) 22:10, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. If Elle mag's ElleBoutique.com site were covered in the article, I might lean that way, but right now we have two not-covered-in-WP topics vying for a title we don't actually need to have until one or more is actually notable or at least
    non-trivial enough to warrant coverage we might redirect to.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  23:59, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Trap Dumplings (Pinkomega)

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 03:36, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing in the target page relates to this redirect. There is a song call Dumplings, but are the rest of the words really needed. Clutter. Richhoncho (talk) 12:27, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It’s the name of a music video for a song in the album, mentioned in the article.
talk contribs 12:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
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AND CO

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 June 12#AND CO

Template:Db-short

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The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 04:31, 10 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This isone of the templates that redirects to the speedy criterion for "no context" Unfortunately, it frquently confuses new comers, because the criterion for a1, is not that the article is short, but that the article gives insufficient information to tell what the article is about -- e.g. John is known as a baseball player. DGG ( talk ) 01:05, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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ENDS marketing

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The result of the discussion was keep.
(non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 10:23, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
]

No idea what this phrase means. Not mentioned at target. Creator's edit summary was "synonym", which makes even less sense.

talk) 00:24, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
]

Sorry, Oiyarbepsy, my blind spot. It stands for "Electronic Nicotine Delivery Devices Systems".[1] The term seems to be more used by medical professionals, and Wikipedia seems to have decided to use "electronic cigarettes", hence the lack of mention. HLHJ (talk) 00:30, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ WHO. "Electronic nicotine delivery systems" (PDF). pp. 1–13. Retrieved 28 August 2014.
  • Keep and add the phrase to the target. Legacypac (talk) 22:13, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and add the phrase to the target. This term of art and the acronym for it are well-attested in the source materials (I remember it from when I was editing in that category, before I ran for my life from that drama factory).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:04, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment
    Marketing of electronic cigarettes is currently in AFD. There is a section on marketing under Electronic cigarettes so that would be an appropriate target. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:43, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Comment
    Marketing of electronic cigarettes article originally contained ~everything in that section (disclosure; I created it), but it has lost most of its content since Friday and is currently the subject of a scope RfC. I have some hope that the article may recover. If it does not I would certainly support a redirect of all its redirects. HLHJ (talk) 05:12, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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