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November 10

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 10, 2023.

Holiday music

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 18#Holiday music

Boxing at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's lightweight

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 18#Boxing at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's lightweight

Stockholm/S, Sweden

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 22:06, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

When I search "G Sweden" I get

WP:RFD#D8). Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:46, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

The
WP:TITLESLASH it appears that it is perfectly acceptable to have forward slashes in the titles of articles. --Habst (talk) 15:02, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • Delete The burden is on users of external tools to comply with Wikipedia's standards, not on Wikipedia to violate it's own standards for the sake of external tools. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:36, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the response @
    WP:RPURPOSE Alternate forms of a name as found in reliable sources and common databases, policy dictates that if an alternate name like this is used in a database, it fulfills the reason for creating and maintaining a redirect. --Habst (talk) 16:37, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    The nomination statement itself explains exactly what standards are violated. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:37, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi @Pppery, thank you. Here's what I would say about the standards mentioned in the nomination:
    • WP:TITLESLASH
      ) that it is perfectly acceptable to have forward slashes in a page title.
    • WP:RDEL#D2
      : The target is correct, because unlike the Andrew vs. Adam example in D2, there is no other conceivable target for the redirect.
    • WP:RDEL#D5
      : The redirect makes sense because it is used to refer to the target, and every part of the title has meaning.
    • WP:RDEL#D8: The redirect isn't in a language other than English, and it is used (at least) hundreds of times in WP:Tilastopaja
      .
    Which of these do you think is being violated by having the redirect?
    --Habst (talk) 14:49, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete My searches didn't turn up much in Swedish or English. I found a handful of places where Stockholm G seemed to refer to Gamla Stan, the old town which is a part of the city. Similarly Stockholm S is regularly used to refer to Stockholm South. With this formatting however it seems meaningless to me and retaining it is only likely to cause confusion, especially when there are two reasonable targets. --Trialpears (talk) 12:28, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi @Trialpears, thank you for the search. Those targets make sense to me given the context. What would you think about redirecting Stockholm/S, Sweden → Söderort (also known as "South Stockholm") and Stockholm/G, Sweden → Gamla stan? --Habst (talk) 14:53, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I guess that's fine, but I don't really see a use for these redirects nor a reason why anyone would write it this weird way. Stockholm/S has the extra wrinkle that Stockholm also has the area Södermalm which is the south of the city center. It has a lot more cultural relevance than Söderort and many times the page views and could reasonably be denoted as Stockholm S as well. --Trialpears (talk) 16:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or Retarget per Habst to Söderort and Gamla stan, but keeping at current target is not useful. Jay 💬 11:12, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The Ashes (rugby league); 2023–

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The result of the discussion was no consensus.
(non-admin closure) —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:31, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Implausible disambiguator with the semicolon, followed by an open en dash. The second of these two redirects has history, however. Utopes (talk / cont) 09:03, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: The one with history seems to have been merged into
    The Ashes (rugby league; 2023–). See that page's history for attribution". Having said that, if needed for attribution count me as a keep on the redirect with history. I'm fine with the other being deleted. TartarTorte 14:46, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]

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  • Keep both. In addition to the attribution requirements these seems like plausible and unambiguous search terms. Thryduulf (talk) 09:49, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete. Unusual for a semicolon to be used in that way on Wikipedia, and likely the only people looking for this term would be regular Wikipedia users. Yoblyblob (talk) 14:20, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    likely the only people looking for this term would be regular Wikipedia user what makes you say that? Thryduulf (talk) 20:02, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete the first because of the semicolon following the disambiguator, and the trailing hyphen. The page was at this title for only one minute after creation, and the creator moved it to a different title. Move without redirect the second to The Ashes rugby league. Jay 💬 10:50, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Joel Peguero

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

non notable minor league baseball player, not mentioned at target article and no longer in Nationals organization Spanneraol (talk) 16:36, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Gerson Moreno

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

non notable minor league baseball player, he is not mentioned at the target article and is no longer in the Nationals organization Spanneraol (talk) 16:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Rafael Lantigua

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

non notable minor league baseball player, not mentioned at target article and no longer in Blue Jays organization Spanneraol (talk) 16:15, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Per nom. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Stevie Berman

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Non notable minor league baseball player, not mentioned on target article and no longer part of the Blue Jays organization Spanneraol (talk) 16:07, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Per nom. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:33, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Michelangelo's David"

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 23:24, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bizarre formatting with the single parentheses at the end. The proper

Michelangelo's David already exists, so there is no functional reason that I can think of for this to exist. Delete TNstingray (talk) 13:55, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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Gym bunny

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 18#Gym bunny

Muscle Mary

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:55, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Look up muscle Mary in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
Not mentioned anymore at the target page. Delete, or turn into a soft redirect to Wiktionary? Tea2min (talk) 08:57, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete, no incoming links. Jay 💬 10:35, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Trumpesque

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 17#Trumpesque

Oprah's Last Chapter

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 17#Oprah's Last Chapter

Su Zhu

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. By moving over Su Zhu (disambiguation). Jay 💬 15:02, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The options are: A)

WP:ONEOTHER
. There are aspects of this that belong on RfD, RM, and AfD, but there's no single platform whose scope encompasses all the possibilities so I've picked RfD as the most reasonable place to hold the discussion.

Nearly all Google results for "Su Zhu" that I can find are for the 3AC cofounder. While Hua Guofeng is certainly a more important person than the 3AC cofounder, he isn't really referred to as Su Zhu in English sources much at all. So to say that Hua Guofeng is primary topic of "Su Zhu" is like saying Barack Obama is primary topic of "BO" - yes, he is the most important topic that could plausibly be referred to as BO, but when people say BO, they aren't overwhelmingly more likely to be referring to Obama than all other topics. We have the same situation here, so I feel B (disambiguation) is the right approach, with C as second choice. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:21, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Leaving the debate about the fora aside, there hasn't been much discussion about the actual nomination.
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  • talk) 12:56, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
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Native forest

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Jay 💬 09:52, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Term not included.

Hildeoc (talk) 10:34, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

"Native" in this context implies forests made up of
endemic and well-adapted species. Old growth forests will usually consist of exactly those (or else they would have died out or be in the process of dying). A literal match of terms in this case thus would be nice, but certainly is not necessary here. It could still be achieved very easily. -- Kku (talk) 10:51, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • Disambig due to many different uses of the term. Yoblyblob (talk) 13:49, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Mao Genocide

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 17#Mao Genocide

Monkey Actors

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 18#Monkey Actors

Diviya

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 17#Diviya

Graziani + Corazza

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:28, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This company is also not mentioned at the target article. It's only mentioned twice across the entire mainspace: the infoboxes for

Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 02:32, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Delete per nom. Strange redirect that doesn't actually help inform our readers about the company. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 15:31, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Stanford Downey Architects Inc.

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 03:29, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Company is not currently mentioned in the article; it wasn't either at the time of the redirect's creation. Elsewhere, it's only mentioned in passing at

Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 02:32, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Harpo Winfrey

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 17#Harpo Winfrey

Hamas militants

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 17#Hamas militants

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