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- 11Q18 New Jerusalem (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to be a single sentence stub for a fragment of New Jerusalem Dead Sea Scroll. Not seeing a good reason why this needs to be a page, notability appears to lie with the scroll (which has a much more extensive WP page). Not sure if there is anything to merge and a redirect is possibly debatable as may or may not be an unlikely search term on en.wp JMWt (talk) 08:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Archaeology-related deletion discussions. JMWt (talk) 08:27, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and Judaism. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 08:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
Keepdiscussed in Lorenzo DiTommaso, “New Jerusalem Text,” in The Eerdmans Dictionary of Early Judaism, ed. John J. Collins and Daniel C. Harlow (Grand Rapids, MI; Cambridge, U.K.: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 2010), 996 and Sidnie White Crawford, The Temple Scroll and Related Texts, vol. 2, Companion to the Qumran Scrolls (Sheffield: Sheffield Academic Press, 2000), 72. Not the most important of the DSS, but GNG is met. Jclemens (talk) 03:30, 30 June 2025 (UTC)- Scholar search also turns up Schiffman, L. H. (2014). "5 Sacrifice in the Dead Sea Scrolls". In The Actuality of Sacrifice. Leiden, The Netherlands: Brill. https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004284234_007 and Ben-Dov, J. (2010). "Scientific Writings in Aramaic and Hebrew at Qumran: Translation and Concealment". In Aramaica Qumranica. Leiden, The Netherlands: Brill. https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004194328_018 and likely others. Moral of the story? Even obscure DSS fragments have RS coverage. This stub could obviously be expanded with these various sources. Jclemens (talk) 03:35, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- I am discussing whether I'm completely wrong with @Jclemens on my talkpage. It seems to me that sources discuss the contents of a particular scroll, called the "New Jerusalem" scroll of which 11Q18 is a fragment of one of the copies. Not all the fragments of this scroll have pages on WP, so the question is whether this fragment has notability on its own outwith of New Jerusalem Dead Sea Scroll. Phew. JMWt (talk) 05:21, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Merge to New Jerusalem Dead Sea Scroll, as NOPAGE. That is, there's enough to meet GNG here, but even so, the value of having a separate page for this particular instantiation doesn't seem sufficient. Jclemens (talk) 15:15, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- I am discussing whether I'm completely wrong with @Jclemens on my talkpage. It seems to me that sources discuss the contents of a particular scroll, called the "New Jerusalem" scroll of which 11Q18 is a fragment of one of the copies. Not all the fragments of this scroll have pages on WP, so the question is whether this fragment has notability on its own outwith of New Jerusalem Dead Sea Scroll. Phew. JMWt (talk) 05:21, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Scholar search also turns up Schiffman, L. H. (2014). "5 Sacrifice in the Dead Sea Scrolls". In The Actuality of Sacrifice. Leiden, The Netherlands: Brill. https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004284234_007 and Ben-Dov, J. (2010). "Scientific Writings in Aramaic and Hebrew at Qumran: Translation and Concealment". In Aramaica Qumranica. Leiden, The Netherlands: Brill. https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004194328_018 and likely others. Moral of the story? Even obscure DSS fragments have RS coverage. This stub could obviously be expanded with these various sources. Jclemens (talk) 03:35, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Archaeological Society of British Columbia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unreferenced article about an organization. As always, organizations are not automatically entitled to Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt them from having to have any referencing. Bearcat (talk) 11:41, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Archaeology, and Canada. Bearcat (talk) 11:41, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: I dug through the depths of Newspapers.com and Archive.org attempting to scrape together enough coverage for GNG, but I don't believe it can be met. There is a decent amount of local coverage available through Newspapers.com, but not enough to build an article on. Ironically, the Underwater Archaeological Society of British Columbia would probably meet GNG based on coverage I found, but not this one. There is also no suitable article to redirect this to, that I can see. MediaKyle (talk) 21:29, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Philippine jade culture (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article appears to be some combination of
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Archaeology, and Philippines. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:55, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping to @Toadspike, @Bearian, @Lenticel, @143.44.193.226 and @Chipmunkdavis, who participated in the first AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:58, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, I think the logic behind the previous consensus still holds... None of the new material addresses the significant concerns raised. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 03:59, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- delete: previous consensus still applies here in my view, and the article reads like LLM output. hallucinated sources are a bad sign. ... sawyer * any/all * talk 04:02, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- also: the article uses the term "culture" incorrectly (see archaeological culture), which is further indication that this is not a real archaeological topic defined in scholarship. ... sawyer * any/all * talk 04:05, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- My reading is that G5 still applies, no additional substantial edits have been made. It's an interesting rub that ]
- @Chipmunkdavis Let's just say I've had G5s declined before for "additional substantial edits" on this scale, so I'm wary of nominating anything unless the other users' edits are pure gnoming. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per above. It's best that we don't use material that might have been hallucinated by AI --Lenticel (talk) 05:03, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete and salt. This is the same fabrication as last time. Since this appears to be a target for nationalist POV-pushing, I strongly suggest SALTing as well. Toadspike [Talk] 06:01, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete and a hidden agenda, but it was peripheral at best: a rare luxury item that might have been packed in with other goods. When I get a chance, I'll upload some photos. Bearian (talk) 13:12, 25 June 2025 (UTC)]
- Comment from nominator: I am also supportive of SALTing given the recreation and the fabricated sources. SALTing will force any recreation through AFC where sources can be properly evaluated. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:59, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete and salt Not notable and uses fake sources, I don't see any harm in salting a non-notable subject for a page that's already been recreated once. DervotNum4 (talk) 16:17, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Article subject isn’t notable in reliable secondary sources. Many of those in the article are even fake sources. If this page has been recreated before, it might now be appropriate to salt. ZachH007 22:39, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I'm fine with salting per the suggestions of the editors above --Lenticel (talk) 08:11, 30 June 2025 (UTC)