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List of accidents of Aero O/Y (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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All of the information in this page is already covered in the accidents and incidents section of Finnair. Plus, there isn't much content in it in the first place, so it should probably be a section in the main article about the airline rather than a standalone article. Mr slav999 (talk) 19:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Aviation, Lists, and Finland. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:10, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. The list is shorter than the accident lists incorporated into many major airline articles, despite the fact that several entries are excessively wordy and could be shortened. This list is entirely redundant and I can think of no good reason to keep it. Carguychris (talk) 17:12, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Finnair § Incidents and accidents as ATD. Rosbif73 (talk) 08:07, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I would support a redirect instead of outright deletion. Carguychris (talk) 14:16, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

People's Democratic Temperance League (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Article has only 2 cites - I think there ought to be 3 good cites to show it is notable - people in Finland may know offline cites? Chidgk1 (talk) 19:14, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Finland. Chidgk1 (talk) 19:14, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:16, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - there's no policy or guideline requiring three good sources to establish notability.
  WP:THREE is just a redirect to one user's opinion: User:RoySmith/Three best sources. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 01:38, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply
  ]

  This news article from the article gives an in-depth look at the party:

  • "Hyvän elämäntavan jäljillä" (PDF). Kansan Uutiset Viikkolehti (Supplement) (in Finnish). 21 March 2014. Retrieved 22 June 2025.

  I think it's sufficient to build an article on. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 01:55, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  The article's other ref cites a Finnish humanities academic portal, Agricola; the link is dead. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 02:01, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  The link works for me, so perhaps there is some geographical limitation. The ref is a review of Työväen raittiusliike sata vuotta: hyvien elämäntapojen jäljillä (2014), a general history of temperance movement in Finland. The ref itself does not discuss KDRL in depth: it mentions the split, but not much more. However, the book is likely to contain a more comprehensive history of KDRL. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:00, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  When I set my vpn to Finland I can see that link otherwise not. Google translates the paragraph as:

  “Obtaining funding certainly guided the change in direction of the temperance movement at least in the 1980s. When municipal temperance appropriations were directed to purchasing services, temperance organizations became service providers. For example, the People's Democratic Temperance League maintained a Companion Phone, where people could call, among other things, about their substance abuse problems. The service served as an alternative to similar services offered by parishes. Money for initiatives and projects was received from RAY.” Chidgk1 (talk) 11:33, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  The other paragraph directly discussing KDRL is: In 1948, the communist temperance movement established its central organization, the People's Temperance Work Center. When the central organization fell into the hands of the Taistolaiset in 1974 under the name People's Temperance League, those supporting the party's majority faction founded their own central organization, the People's Democratic Temperance League. Until its merger into the Finnish Lifestyle Association ELO in 1993, there were three leftist temperance movement central organizations operating: one for the Social Democrats, one for the majority Communists, and one for the Taistolaiset. Since 2012, labor movement-based temperance organizations have operated together with other temperance organizations under a common organization, EHYT ry. The key driving force behind the mergers of temperance organizations in both 1993 and 2012 were the wishes and guidelines of the funding organization RAY during financially tight times. Other parts provide the relevant context. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 11:39, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Arguably we would have more coverage, if we had access to Kansan Uutiset (and other print media= archives from 1970s and 1980s. Also the organization under its current name pops up in a lot of searches. --Soman (talk) 15:35, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: would love a bit more discussion before closing this one out
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, James of UR (talk) 00:08, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - while
  WP:SIGCOV. Bearian (talk) 01:37, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Delete. Not enough sources. The Kansan Uutiset supplement is published by EHYT, which is not fully independent of the subject (Kunnon Elämä is a member of EHYT). I did some searches from Finnish media, but did not find anything in-depth. I would recommend writing an article about
  Temperance movement in Finland (currently a redirect), and add a mention there. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 05:01, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply
  ]

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