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State government articles
Hi all,
I was wanting to add some information about events currently taking place in state politics, but then realised there's no appropriate page to put them. In federal politics, we have the Albanese government article to list day-to-day events that concern the government, but there is no equivalent timeline for state and territory governments. Is it appropriate for me to make, for example, Allan state government or Minns state government? GraziePrego (talk) 04:51, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Typically I would have thought they would just go on the page of the relevant individual/s (which are often pretty short on detail on what has happened during their term - see Jacinta Allan's article for example). ITBF (talk) 05:15, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- That's true- it does make it tricky to include some things though. If something happens that concerns the entire state government as a whole, rather than just the premier, it might be considered a bit irrelevant to include on specifically just the premier's article. GraziePrego (talk) 05:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Rann government is the only such article I know about. I do think this sort of article is viable in general and I support the creation of other such articles. The sources are certainly there. Steelkamp (talk) 05:51, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- I have created Allan government. Needs a lot of expansion and integration with existing content about VicPol and the premier, working on those. Any help is greatly appreciated :) GraziePrego (talk) 07:01, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Rann government is the only such article I know about. I do think this sort of article is viable in general and I support the creation of other such articles. The sources are certainly there. Steelkamp (talk) 05:51, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- That's true- it does make it tricky to include some things though. If something happens that concerns the entire state government as a whole, rather than just the premier, it might be considered a bit irrelevant to include on specifically just the premier's article. GraziePrego (talk) 05:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Victorian state by-elections - keep or remove?
Hi all,
I'm wondering if there's any set standard for state by-elections not having articles? Specifically in Victoria, I made a couple pages which have been undone (eg
A lot of old Victorian state by-elections don't have pages or even any results (I think they should) and the user who has undone some of this commented "note that if [the results are] (almost) the content of the entire new page, that suggests the new page isn't needed".
NSW seems to have every single one if its by-elections, even in the pre-party era, with pages, and Queensland has a bunch as well - including ones almost entirely made up of the results, like 1905 Ashfield state by-election, 1912 Alexandria state by-election etc
TLDR - wondering if there's a set standard/whether we should set a standard for creating these pages or not? Just before I go ahead and make more of them Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 21:04, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I agree they (state by-elections) should all have articles and I have created plenty—there's no (or shouldn't be a) blanket notability ban on state-level by-elections, but I actually agree with the comment that if the article is just a results table (and maybe some other context such the date and reason for the election), it's probably better to just include those details in the list of results. Trove is a great resource for that era, and you should be able to find additional material around the campaign, the count, any other issues like objections raised or ineligible candidates, but if not, just redirect to the results list for the district and include the contextual detail there. --Canley (talk) 22:28, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- It was me merging the newly created WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, and I'd be very happy to see permastubs for other bielections merged to their relevant distict election pages too (even if they were in NSW). Klbrain (talk) 22:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)]
- Yeah and that's more than fair enough, I can see why you've done that
- Unfortunately more than a few of these pages never had the by-elections in the results - often because they are pre-1910 where no results seem to be on here - which is also sorta why I (and I hope some other people do it) are now fixing the electoral result pages to have embedded results and sub-headings for the specific year, not just decade Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 23:11, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- It was me merging the newly created