Talk:1997 Spring Creek flood

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 00:42, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ALT0: ... that during the 1997 Spring Creek flood, a railroad embankment suppressed 8,250 cubic feet (234 m³) of water per second, which also caused a train to derail? Source: KUNC
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Anjali Lama
  • Comment: QPQ coming soon.

Created by Tails Wx (talk). Self-nominated at 03:28, 25 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1997 Spring Creek flood; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - the hook is difficult to follow. As it reads now, it sounds like the embankment caused the derailment, not its overflowing; and it is a little technical. It's hard to picture how much water is 8,250 cubic feet. I'd like to suggest:

ALT1: ...that the 1997 Spring Creek flood caused five deaths and over $250 million in damages, including a train derailment?

ALT2: ...that the 1997 Spring Creek flood is the worst natural disaster in the history of Fort Collins, Colorado?

Overall: @Tails Wx: Nice work and great research skills. Well-sourced and nicely written, Earwig clear, QPQ done and already went to main page. Couple minor article tweaks (which I'll pick on because I see it's also up for GAN): both url and archive-url for footnote 3 (USGS) are broken (and access date should be updated). Wohl 2009 and Ogden et al. 2000 need a via parameter crediting the databases they were retrieved from. Other than that, just let me know your thoughts on the hook and we can proceed. – TCMemoire 22:02, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks for your review, TCMemoire! I've fixed your concerns noted above here and here. Unfortunately, I don't think the hooks you proposed above are interesting enough, though if my proposed hooks below don't seem interesting to you, I'm happy to go with ALT2 since it's mildly interesting (and if going with ALT2, I think Fort Collins, Colorado should be wikilinked). How about ALT3 and ALT4:

• ALT3: ...that heavy rainfall associated with the 1997 Spring Creek flood were the heaviest in a Colorado urban area?
• ALT4: ...that the Community Collaborative Rain, Hail and Snow Network was created following the 1997 Spring Creek flood?

~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 00:37, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tails Wx: Now that I've sat with it, ALT0 has grown on me. Sorry for the runaround. However, I think we should just clarify the overrunning of the embankment:

ALT0.5: ... that during the 1997 Spring Creek flood, a railroad embankment suppressing 8,250 cubic feet (234 m³) of water per second overflowed, causing a train to derail? – TCMemoire 10:54, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TCMemoire, no worries! And I think your hook (ALT 0.5) is good to me! :) ~ Tails Wx (🐾, me!) 13:24, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great! ALT0.5 approved for DYK. – TCMemoire 14:00, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]