Talk:David E. Lilienthal

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I am the writer of the David Lilienthal article.

If other Wikipedians feel they can improve it, by all means, do so. But I do not consider the article to be "crap" -- indeed it seems to be far more fair-minded and well-rounded than the flippant and negative comment below from "Jamesg".

At any rate, the article was neither plagiarized nor paraphrased.

Andrew Szanton, 10/06


Edit needed

No offense, but I agree that this article needs a major rewrite. It's too lauditory of Lilienthal. 74.215.255.82 (talk) 08:20, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Died peacefully in his sleep" -- I mean, seriously, is this supposed to be encyclopedia quality? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.162.126.226 (talk) 15:22, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

someone plz edit this, it is crap. Why? because it makes the guy look like a saint. And we know he was no saint. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.163.22.139 (talk) 03:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


You've got a pretty strange idea of a saint. An ambitious, sometimes arrogant man who goes into public service, becomes famous, and in some quarters infamous? A guy who keeps journals of his achievements? David Lilienthal was a good man, but with plenty of failings, some of which are spelled out pretty clearly in this article. Your comment seems way off base. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrew Szanton (talk • contribs) 06:53, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Who writes this crap? This sounds like it was either plagiarized, or at best paraphrased, right out of a biography -- a very fawning biography, at that. This article is in serious need of some cleanup. Jamesg 14:36, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]



This article about David Lilienthal seems to me far too short. Lilienthal was one of the most capable and controversial public figures of his day and deserves more explanation.

Contrary to the Wikipedia heading, Lilienthal was not a "Tennessee politician" -- he was an Indiana native, with professional experience in Wisconsin before being appointed to the Tennessee Valley Authority. As much as he enjoyed Tennessee and admired Tennesseeans, he was never a Tennesseean himself.

Nor did he consider himself a politician, but a public servant and later a public-spirited businessman.

Andrew Szanton, 5/06

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I think that it is customary to acknowledge your sources early in the article. As I read it, I thought to myself, is all this actually documented? Then I saw the references section and assumed that the article is primarily taken from those journals. But it might help Mr. Szanton to read some other biographical articles on Wikipedia and try to conform to the conventions here. Bear in mind, of course, that there are some absolutely dreadful biographical articles written by amateur character assassins, which is why they had to institute

WP:BLP as a policy. But there are also some decent ones. --MaplePorter 08:33, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply
]

I've tried to repair what obviously are longstanding problems with this article: puffery, original research, and above all a lack of inline sourcing. Evidently one editor wrote this article some years ago after reading some books by Lilienthal, and then wrote this like a personal essay without bothering to insert inline citations. Figureofnine (talk) 14:43, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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