Talk:Dilan Yeşilgöz

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She has been noted in the dutch media as a possible successor to Rutte. 2A02:3030:807:5A16:1:0:18A5:44E (talk) 20:04, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speculation should be avoided on Wikipedia Shadow4dark (talk) 20:23, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per

"Yeşilgöz-Zegerius started her political career at the Socialist Party, where Yesilgöz was a board member for the Amersfoort branch of the party. " --shouldn't the second use of her name be a pronoun "she". -- or does it perhaps mean that her father was a board member? I could not access the Dutch newspaper article cited for this fact. --Baekemm (talk) 11:43, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article currently contains:

”Dutch pronunciation: [ˈdilɑn jeːˈʃilɡʏs seːˈɣeːrijʏs];^[1]”

This pronunciation rendition:

• is not supported by (the first occurrence in) the reference mentioned, in particular with respect to the e in Yeşilgöz and the first e in Zegerius: the syllables containing them are unstressed, and - according to my (native speaker) observations - at most retain tenseness, but not length;
• is not supported by the rendition Turkish pronunciation: [/jeˈʃil/] for Turkish “yeşil” on https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yeşil (the first family is apparently of Turkish origin);
• is accurate with respect to the devoicing (in line with Dutch phonology) of the final z in Yeşilgöz;
• is phonetically accurate with respect to the initial s for the Dutch origin (i.e. the second) family name Zegerius, but only because of voicing assimilation caused by the devoiced final z in Yeşilgöz; it is not accurate in standard Dutch pronunciation in careful pronunciation r after a pause or a vowel or a voiced consonant.

I propose:

Dutch pronunciation: [ˈdilɑn jeˈʃilɡʏs seˈɣeːrijʏs], in careful pronunciation Dutch pronunciation: [ˈdilɑn jeˈʃilɡʏs zeˈɣeːrijʏs].

Mrs. Yeşilgöz-Zegerius’ own pronunciation of her family names does not even conform to the rendering currently in the article with respect to the stress in Yeşilgöz, but I am happy to keep the stress indicators where they are for now because of the IPA-rendering on https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yeşil: not always does a person pronounce her own name according to standard pronunciation rules.Redav (talk) 01:05, 29 November 2023 (UTC) Redav (talk) 01:05, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The occurrence of “yeşilgöz” in https://www.zargan.com/tr/q/yeşilgöz-ceviri-nedir and https://tureng.com/en/turkish-english/yeşilgöz seems to confirm that the word occurs in Turkish as a compund noun.Redav (talk) 01:18, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]