Talk:Fred Freiberger

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That's the word used when a series is cancelled after Frieberger is brought in to save it. DavidFarmbrough (talk) 01:35, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article, like too many on here focuses too much on Star Trek, as if that's the most important thing anyone ever did. In the case of Frieberger, who have a 40+ year film and TV career, to focus narrowly on a single year of producing Star Trek fails to adequately or accurately address the subject. I am rewriting the entry to get the broader focus such an entry needs. MrNeutronSF (talk) 03:28, 11 September 2011 (UTC) I trimmed down some sections rather a lot. For instance, it's not important to quote Nichelle Nichols verbatim for a paragraph, but merely to indicate what she said and provide adequate citation. I also added opposing viewpoints to the Series Killer section, as I don't think it's fair to tar to man with what a subsection of fandom thinks as opposed to something factual. MrNeutronSF (talk) 07:44, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm afraid that you Underestimate the situation. Almost anyone in science fiction Knows that Freiberger was the director of Star Trek TOS in its third season. So, Freiberger is targetted for attacks and vicious criticism by all kinds of ignorant TOS fans as the "series killer" for instance. If you or I don't place Nicholl's edit defending his reputataion and just ignore this issue, his reputation will be tarnished forever in the eyes of future Star Trek fans who didn't read Nichelle Nicholl's book--Beyond Uhura. Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 08:59, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• First of all, Freiberger didn't DIRECT Star Trek, he was the PRODUCER. As to his reputation, I believe addressing the breadth of the subject's career helps put this into context better than some quote from a minor player.98.210.141.250 (talk) 09:05, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• The thing is Nichelle Nicholls is not a minor player in the original Star Trek. She was a major actress from the beginning and knew what was going on behind the scenes. Later, in the 1970s, she was respected in NASA for her work in recruiting female astronauts there. So, her quotes on Freiberger's season 3 role in Star Trek in her published book, Beyond Uhura, is invaluable. I've read her book and I think its a well written publication which documents her difficulties getting along with Shatner since Shatner was "cutting her lines" in season 3 and lessoning her role in its the series production. Her book's portrayal is quite fair and credible overall--and she also talks of her relationship with Roddenberry both in a good and bad way. She said you wouldn't want to be Roddenberry's enemy and one can see why from her account. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 01:34, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

People seem obsessed with blaming this guy for their favorite TV shows being cancelled. Please stop putting in phrases like "it can't be denied no other tv producer has had so many sci-fi shows cancelled on his watch." What does that really have to do with anything but your own spite for him? It can't be denied no other sci-fi producer didn't get his pilot spec scripts picked up than Gene Roddenberry, but you don't see phrases Iike that in his article. Freiberger produced three sci-fi shows that were cancelled during his run, that's really not inordinate if you take the sci-fi qulifier out, he just happened to work more in this genre than other producers of his era. The fact that all three shows had poor ratings by the time he signed on seems lost on people. 67.190.86.13 (talk) 08:11, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]