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Should this be included? I'm a mere pleb, but feel it may become an interesting story later in the week: Daily Mail article below reads: The role of Britain’s top mandarin in promoting the controversial £28billion takeover of the defence giant BAE by a European rival was last night under the spotlight. Cabinet Secretary Sir Jeremy Heywood has helped persuade David Cameron to back the plans to join BAE Systems with EADS. But he faces questions about his own role – and whether it constitutes a conflict of interest because he worked for three years at merchant bank Morgan Stanley, which stands to gain tens of millions from brokering the merger.

<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2207611/BAE-deal-Conflict-fears-David-Camerons-right-hand-mandarin-Sir-Jeremy-Heywood.html#ixzz27L2GFkz8> 212.139.111.220 (talk) 23:26, 23 September 2012 (UTC)pleb212.139.111.220 (talk) 23:26, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

according to DM of 24/09/2012, he's been asked to investigate the matter <http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2207371/Cabinet-Secretary-Sir-Jeremy-Heywood-asked-investigate-minister-Andrew-Mitchell-really-did-police-officers-plebs-told-bike.html> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.111.220 (talk) 23:46, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I suspect most readers will assume it's Whitehall. But the article says "Baron Heywood of Whitehall, of Glossop in the County of Derbyshire". But there is no article for Whitehall, Glossop. Should it be at least added to the "Places" section at Whitehall (disambiguation)? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:59, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's a place called Whitehall in Glossop. The territorial designation is "of Glossop in the County of Derbyshire", not "of Whitehall, of Glossop in the County of Derbyshire". "Baron Heywood of Whitehall" is the title, which I think it's safe to assume does refer to Whitehall, even though his territorial designation is elsewhere. Ralbegen (talk) 13:36, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I see. I'm afraid I'm not very well up on how the titles for Baronies are constructed. It seems extremely confusing. So does Whitehall need to be linked somehow? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:53, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think Whitehall needs to be linked. There's a similar example with a different title and territorial designation in

Hampshire. Ralbegen (talk) 15:30, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply

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Looking at Baron Lee's title it seems he was born in Bowdon, Greater Manchester (although the infobox does not say that). So it looks like the title always just describes birthplace? Sometimes the territorial designation corresponds to birthplace but sometimes, as with Heywood, it does't? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:11, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding is that both the title and the territorial designation are chosen by the peer, subject to the approval of the Garter Principal King of Arms. They're usually places that are important to them, which is why birthplaces are common. But not exclusively, so you have other exceptions like Angela Harris, Baroness Harris of Richmond or John Gummer. So my guess would be that Heywood chose his title "Baron Heywood of Whitehall" based on a place that's been so important to his career, and the territorial designation "of Glossop in the County of Derbyshire" for where he was born and presumably grew up. Ralbegen (talk) 20:11, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Yes, that all makes sense. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:22, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Earlier today, @Sandstein: removed the following passage, with the edit summary this is not about Heywood, but about Brexit:

Heywood said in a blog that the "civil service did its job" and was "scrupulous" during the referendum, producing work "as we should, at pace and with accuracy". It comes after officials were accused by Eurosceptics of promoting

Later, @81.129.228.25: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeremy_Heywood&diff=prev&oldid=867299515 restored the passage with the edit summary "restore sourced content, perfectly relevant, take to Talk page", which I'm doing now. My personal view is that whilst 81.129.228.25 is right that the material is sourced, Sandstein is right that it's about Brexit rather than Heywood; so I'm happy to be in a consensus against inclusion of the paragraph. Ralbegen (talk) 22:40, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've started a discussion on Downing Street Chief of Staff concerning Lord Heywood. If you're interested, you can find it here. FollowTheTortoise (talk) 11:40, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Was he the first Life Peer, who has never taken his seat? HulkNorris (talk) 19:41, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]