Talk:Late modern period

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On 7 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be Modern history. The result of the discussion was not moved.

I would like to suggest an end date for the "Late Modern Period."

one problem with this, of course, is that the term "late modern" itself intrinsically suggests that it is still ongoing, as it is the "modern" period in which we all live. However, I would suggest that the "late modern period" was actually a period with a beginning and an end, and was typified by the great conflicts of the 20th century, starting with the Franco-Prussian War as a precursuor, and then of course World War I, World War II, and the Cold War.

I would submit that the "Late Modern Period" was succeeded by the "Information Age" which in fact is now the current period in which we all live. Obviously, one next step would be to find some published sources for this premise. equally obviously, clearly this is not a question that needs to be resolved immediately. presumably, people, may happen upon this question a decade or two from now. at some point, this question of delineating the "late modern period" from whatever comes next will in fact become more relevant. I am simply introducing this question for some initial discussion, if possible. I may also post this question at

The article on the Information Age defines its start year as 1947, the year the first functioning transistor was developed. By that logic, 2022 is the 75th year of the Information Age. Dimadick (talk) 21:38, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

yay, I hope you actually read all of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:6581:1400:F11D:838F:877C:B79 (talk) 11:44, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

explain the late modern era 131.226.65.211 (talk) 22:22, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Can someone provide sources for the term "late modern period"? Peter ^Isotalo 20:00, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's Brill, although I don't have access, and a definition here too. It seems to be quite poorly defined in general, like many periods, since the notion of transition from period to another is intrinsically vague and geography dependent. The start dates seems to vary from 1700-1800 and the end dates from 1900-1945.

Iskandar323 (talk) 05:47, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply

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If you fulfill the user criteria, you have access to Brill through The Wikipedia Library.

The second reference is not a definition of the period but a description of a historical stage of Modern English. That's not relevant here.

I'm not used to seeing the term "late modern period". It's usually referred to as just "modern period", at least after the definition "early modern" become common.

I don't see exactly why this should be any more diffuse than any other common periodization scheme within the historical sciences. There can be disagreement about exakt dating, of course, but that goes for most periodizations that aren't defined by just one specific aspect, like royal dynasties, for example. Peter ^Isotalo 10:45, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fair warning

This article does not provide any sources to justify its existence despite being around for a very long time. There are no

I've raised the problems in this and the related articles modern era, early modern period and modernity in Wikiproject History. Thread can be found here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History#Modernity articles are a hot mess

I recommend a joint discussion for all these articles since they seem to suffer from very similar issues. Peter ^Isotalo 13:54, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]