Talk:Leafpad

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Forks

There are different forks of Leafpad like Mousepad and L3afpad. --79.224.243.77 (talk) 19:46, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you have references that show that this is the case, then this information can be added to the article. - Ahunt (talk) 20:00, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
For Mousepad see Xfce#Mousepad, seems like the development of Mousepad was stopped. --79.224.250.145 (talk) 13:39, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It sounds like it, although no refs are cited there. I added a bit of text there and one ref. Mousepad is no longer listed as an Xfce project. - Ahunt (talk) 13:52, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
But L3afpad looks active, see http://www.calno.com/l3afpad/. --79.224.229.25 (talk) 18:16, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's a port of Leafpad to Gtk3. --79.224.244.137 (talk) 11:10, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have added it to the article, although some more detail would be useful. - Ahunt (talk) 12:45, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 07:00, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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5x expanded by Aoidh (talk). Self-nominated at 10:45, 14 August 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Aw – I have a soft spot for Leafpad from my days of tinkering with a Raspberry Pi. Hooks are sourced, neutral, and of appropriate length, but ALT1 is not included in the article. It needs to be added in order to be used as a hook. ALT1 is also the more interesting option here. As for the article itself, it appears to be well-sourced and neutral, and meets DYK-relevant policies including avoidance of plagiarism. Just need to put ALT1 in the prose and we're good to go, I think! ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 04:18, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oops, ping Aoidh ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 04:19, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Aoidh: Was thinking of reviewing this, but too slow. One comment I had was to consider moving and is similar in visuals and functionality to the Microsoft Windows program Notepad into the lede, as that will give readers a quick understanding of what Leafpad is like. As for ALT1, "i386" isn't really a reference to that specific old architecture but rather is a Debian packaging indicator-of-architecture. Better to say "Intel x86" or "IA-32" or something like that. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:28, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ezlev and Wasted Time R: I added the install size into the prose and the Notepad comparison into the lede. Sorry I'm still on the newer end of doing DYK and thought the install size being included in the infobox counted, but it absolutely makes sense that it should be in the article itself in prose form. Hopefully these changes work. I did add Debian to the hook as that is specifically the install size on Debian; on Arch Linux for example it's only 301kB. I've also provided two possible alternate hooks below:
I do kind of like the Arch Linux one better, and I do think the small install size is interesting, but given the comment below I am of course open to a different suggeston. Aoidh (talk) 11:17, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]


  • Just my 2 cents: could a more interesting hook be proposed, so that people who aren't already deeply familiar with Leafpad might be enticed to read the article if it appears on the main page? A hook should, well, "hook" readers, not simply state mundane facts. Hooks should appeal to a broad audience, like it says above. Both hooks make me want to ignore the article entirely. --Animalparty! (talk) 05:44, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you have a suggestion I'm happy to hear it. - Aoidh (talk) 08:50, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
How about
Short and punchy and at least part of it will make sense to a general audience. Wasted Time R (talk) 22:29, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ezlev: Is ALT4 okay? Personally I thought it's the best option, but the ball is in your park. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:02, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Narutolovehinata5, Wasted Time R – I'm afraid ALT4 might be a bit too broad. I read it as implying that Linux comes with Leafpad by default, which isn't true. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 01:38, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ezlev: In any case, going with any other option may not be ideal since all of them seem too technical and needs knowledge of computing to appreciate. If no other hook can be suggested, maybe the nomination should be closed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:56, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We can modify to:
That should satisfy Ezlev's concern about broadness, and it retains a certain hookiness. Wasted Time R (talk) 02:03, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I do have some alternate hooks that are less technical:
Hopefully one of these works, because I would really like to get this approved given the amount of work put into expanding the article. - Aoidh (talk) 03:16, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ALT6/ALT6a sound good. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:43, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed! ALT6a is the smoothest, I think, so I'll approve that one. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 04:27, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. Vacant0 (talk) 20:35, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I'll review this one. --Vacant0 (talk) 15:38, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoidh: On hold until these issues get fixed. Vacant0 (talk) 17:16, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Vacant0: Thank you for doing this GA review. I have addressed all of the points below. Typos have been fixed, the lede expanded and alt text added to the infobox images, a reception section added, duplicate refs combined. I replaced the Lubuntu refs with one that does support the wording, and removed Peppermint OS outright, since I couldn't find anything specifically discussing Leafpad in relation to that distro. - Aoidh (talk) 19:27, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good now, I'll promote this to GA. Vacant0 (talk) 20:34, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

General

  • Further changes to the infobox are not needed.
  • Features: "and is similar..." → "It is similar..."
  • Usage: typo in "installations"
  • Another paragraph in the lede that would cover other parts of the "Features" and "Usage" sections is recommended, per
    MOS:LEADLENGTH
    .
  • Optional, if it exists: Is there a reception for this text editor?

Images

  • Add alt text.

Sources

  • Ref 15 is the duplicate of Ref 10, it should be removed.
  • "Leafpad was the default graphical text editor for Lubuntu up to version 18.04 LTS. After Lubuntu moved from the LXDE to the LXQt desktop, Leafpad was replaced by FeatherPad." → Ref 26, 27, and 28 do not mention Lubuntu nor 18.04 LTS. Ref 27 mentions Xubuntu instead. LXQt and FeatherPad are also not supported by these sources.
  • Ref 29 does not mention leafpad.
  • Rest of the sources are alright.
  • Copyvio unlikely
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

| programming language = GTK

GTK is a widget toolkit for creating user interfaces, not a programming language. - Ahunt (talk) 14:09, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You know what, you're not wrong and I was focused on it saying "written in" in the actual infobox and not "programming language" in the parameter name itself. I've self-reverted my last edit. GTK itself is written in C (usually?) but a source specifically saying Leafpad is written in C wouldn't hurt either. - Aoidh (talk) 14:19, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Many free software projects actually don't specify the language they are written in on their websites, unless you get into the source code or they are specifically looking for volunteers with experience in certain languages. - Ahunt (talk) 14:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I overlooked it the first time but GitHub shows what is written in what language and according to the helpful languages breakdown section on the right-hand side 67.1% of Leafpad is C, with Perl taking up the next largest chunk with 30.2%. - Aoidh (talk) 15:12, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well that is actually pretty useful! - Ahunt (talk) 15:41, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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