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the existence of Şehzade Selim

I want to requested to add point of Şehzade Selim in Mehmed's family. The existence of Şehzade Selim was mentioned in Azerbaijani, Greek and Turkish page in Wikipedia. He was listed as a firstborn son of Mehmed IV and Gülnuş Sultan because based on his birth year in 1659. Since Gülnuş was Mehmed's first consort and was brought to Constantinople in 1645, thus may be a evidence that she entered the harem of the young sultan between 1557 to 1560, when she was at age 15 to 18 respectively. This would be a necessary age to a concubine entered the harem of the Sultan. Add on when the birth of Şehzade Selim in 1559, both Mehmed and Gülnuş were at age of 17, the normal age of Sultan for having his firstborn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.125.250.235 (talk) 08:15, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@27.125.250.235:

1. Wikipedia cannot be used as its own source
2. The pages relating to Ottoman history, especially the genelogical sections, are very badly done on these wikis and in fact none cite a reliable source that supports the text
3. I have checked the main sources on the subject and none mention a Şehzade Selim son of Mehmed IV.
So right now I can't add the information. If you can verify the information from a reliable source, you can provide it and add to the information. Sira Aspera (talk) 13:14, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

It seems appropriate to include the information regarding the case of Shabatai Tzvi [Sabbatai_Zevi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbatai_Zevi#Sabbatai_adopts_Islam] Considering the case of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmed_IV#The_Quaker_Mary_Fisher has been included to illustrate Sultans tolerance the case of Sabbatai_Zevi should be mentioned to illustrate its limits.

Not quite sure how to change, or in fact start a new page detailing him, but a links to Ibrahim in text & 'ottoman sultans' box at the bottom of the page are faulty and links to a very different Ibrahim to the one intended.

• Well spotted! The correct precursor is his father, Ibrahim I, definitely not the Biblical Patriarch - now fixed. Fastifex 13:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am embarking upon a mission to seriously upgrade this page and get it on the radar. I invite everyone to help out. I am leaving the "Accomplishments" section there until I can incorporate all the information into a better-written/formatted version. Wikster72 02:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This subject is controversial and this controversy should be reflected in this article. It is agreed that she came as a slave from Crete taken from the city of Rethymnon (Resmo in Turkish). However, some claim that she was of a Venetian family settled in Crete annd others claim that she was of local Greek origin. Noyder (talk) 00:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I editted the original text :His reign is notable for a brief revival of Ottoman fortunes led by the infamous Grand Vizier, Mehmed Köprülü. Köprülü regained the Aegean islands from Venice and fought successful campaigns against Transylvania (1664) and Poland (1670–1674). Actually

The link given in notes about "Natalia Yakovenko."Essays on History on Ukraine. From the Earliest Times until the End of the 18th Century". 1997." is not good anymore. --Bluescountryboy (talk) 21:15, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why was he deposed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.137.158 (talk) 05:58, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Sultan Mehmed IV (2).jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on January 2, 2018. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2018-01-02. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 08:01, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Mehmed IV (1642–1693) was the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire from 1648 to 1687. He came to the throne at the age of six, and went on to become the second longest reigning sultan in Ottoman history. During his middle years, he oversaw the revival of the empire's fortunes associated with the Köprülü era. Mehmed was known by contemporaries as a particularly pious ruler, and was referred to as gazi, or "holy warrior" for his role in the empire's many conquests. In 1687, after being overthrown, Mehmed retired to Edirne, where he resided until his death.Painting: Unknown

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This paragraph definitely needs correction because of the poor English used there. I am fluent in English, but even so I do not know what the hell could the author that wrote it mean... The only information I could get from there was that there was a fire in 1660...

quotations:

"the fire ... in the fire" - seriously? there was a fire in the fire? LOL... "turned the city into a destiny" - does not make any sense at all... perhaps "turned the city into ashes?" "turned the city into desert?" "120 palaces and mansions, 100 cellars, 360 mosques, 40 baths." - and what of them? What happened to them? No explanation... "The house burned down with madrasahs, inns, hankah and thousands." - House? What house? "... and thousands." - thousands of what - makes no sense...

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:AB04:24D:4E00:5143:66D0:C9D8:D720 (talk) 21:23, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply] 

Regarding daughter

Several recent insertions by a new editor. Discussion? BusterD (talk) 20:44, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article says "Mustafa II (6 February 1664 or 5 June 1664 – 30 December 1703)"

Turkish Wikipedia says June 2. https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/II._Mustafa

Also, when writing about the siege of Novi Zrin, Evlija Celebi writes that news of the birth of Mustafa came to the army on June 13. Thus, a birth date of June 2 is more plausible. 104.158.48.139 (talk) 14:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]