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David Irving/Holocaust Denial

Should we add something about the subject of this article being criticised for owning and displaying a book by a holocaust denier? See https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/michael-gove-and-sarah-vine-criticised-on-twitter-for-having-holocaust-denier-david-irvings-s-book-1-6636307 and https://www.indy100.com/article/michael-gove-sarah-vine-racist-antisemitic-books-bookshelf-twitter-9497246 80.47.148.59 (talk) 16:06, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so, it doesn't seem noteworthy enough and hasn't received enough coverage to make it into this article. Bellowhead678 (talk) 17:46, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What's the threshold for "enough coverage" in this case? It seems to have been in quite a few British National Newspapers and magazines. 80.47.148.59 (talk) 19:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Since we've not identified a threshold for "enough coverage" and noteworthyness I'll readd it on the basis that similar parts of the page such as the cocaine controversy had a similar level of coverage and were similarly noteworthy. If anyone disagrees I'm happy to discuss why the threshold for number and quality of sources for this should be higher than for similar parts of the same page 80.47.148.59 (talk) 17:35, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I say we should. It's been covered by reliable sources and it's definitely important. Holocaust denial is a serious matter, and shouldn't simply be brushed under the carpet. 46.97.170.78 (talk) 20:44, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There's been coverage in the Telegraph, New European, Independent, Spectator, Evening Standard, so I think we have enough reliable sources. Andysmith248 (talk) 20:06, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The current version feels lackluster. The section should be called bookcase controversy, and the sort of criticism he received should be presented with greater detail. 46.97.170.78 (talk) 08:39, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
okay don't be clicking on adds 2603:900A:2300:CA3D:1937:D44C:BA44:C87B (talk) 13:51, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Extremism in schools

Gove's record is covered in the podcast The Trojan Horse Affair, particularly Episodes 4 and 5. May be useful material for the article there? Rankersbo (talk) 13:25, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Education in infobox

It seems to be common practice to add secondary school or college for this parameter. But if you look at Template:Infobox person it actually says: "Education, e.g., degree, institution and graduation year, if relevant. If very little information is available or relevant, the?? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:14, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Date of the image

The lead image's caption states that the photograph was taken in 2021, but I have found it being used on the internets in 2020. Either the image was taken 1 year after it had been used or it was taken in 2020 or before. I have changed it in the past but it has always been reverted to 2021. I will change it to 2020 until further discussion. Thank you. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 20:32, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am the uploader of the image and also one of the people who reverted it to 2021. At first I thought it was taken in this year, as the EXIF metadata of the GOV.UK image says that it was taken on 20 September 2021 at 13:49 pm. However, this image appears to be a crop of the full image uploaded onto Flickr, and the EXIF data also says that the programme for the GOV.UK file was Adobe Photoshop, though there is no date of acquisition listed. The EXIF data for the Flickr image does not state when the image was taken, nor does it state what programme or camera was used, etc. It is possible that the image was taken in 2020 and not 2021, though we cannot confirm this yet either. Do you remember where you saw it used in 2020? ThatRandomGuy1 (talk) 20:45, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Official portrait, 15 September 2021
I've uploaded a cropped version of this official portrait dated 15 September 2021. I'm replacing the infobox image with that as it's only older than the current image by five days if the latter's GOV.UK EXIF data is correct, and unlike the current image it is not yet questionable when it was taken. It's also consistent with other Johnson cabinet ministers such as Priti Patel and Nadine Dorries. I think the old image should be put back if its date is confirmed to be 20 September 2021 though, since most politicians' infoboxes use their most recent official portrait available on Commons. Similarly, if a more recent official portrait is uploaded to Commons I think we should use that instead. ThatRandomGuy1 (talk) 16:19, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't find the exact place where I saw the first use, but I did find this slightly odd tweet published on September 11, 2020. I don't think that tweets can be edited, and as the photo is attached, I believe it to be proof enough that the photo was taken during or before 2020. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 22:01, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]