Talk:Pelham Park and City Island Railway

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I am surprised to find little information about the derailmetn in the article, although this is available in the following sources:

• Monorail Car Fails on its First Trip - Flimsy Structure Supporting It Gives Way and Many Are Badly Hurt. - Fall to the Floor in Layers. The New York Times, 17. Juli 1910.
• John Metcalfe: On This Day in 1910, New York's Monorail Suffered a Grievous Wreck. A sad tale of extremely poor transportation planning. Version of 16 July 2014. Downloaded on 17 September 2015. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 05:35, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• "TRAFFIC TIED UP BY A HEAVY FOG; Rear-End Crash on Brooklyn Elevated Injures 11 -- River Collisions Numerous". nytimes.com. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
• "Historian Blake Bell's Blog: History of the Pelham Park and City Island Railway". The Pelhams-PLUS. 23 February 2017. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
• "NEWS OF THE RAILROADS; The Question of Consolidated Companies Charging Two Fares. A CASE BEFORE THE STATE BOARD The Pelham Park and City Island Railway Companies Accused of Illegal Acts -- The Board Sends the Matter to the Courts". timesmachine.nytimes.com. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
• "Historic Pelham: Efforts to Reorganize the Operators of the City Island Horse Railroad and Monorail in 1914". historicpelham.blogspot.com. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
• "Historic Pelham: Lawsuit in 1884 Cleared the Way for Construction of Horse Railroad from Bartow Station to Lower Part of City Island in Pelham". historicpelham.blogspot.com. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
• "Historic Pelham: Brief History of the Pelham Park and City Island Railway". historicpelham.blogspot.com. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
• "The Pelham Park and City Island Railway, part 2". Forsyth's Compendium of Curious Contraptions. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
• "More unusual railways : Day, John Robert : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive". Internet Archive. Retrieved 16 June 2023.

I feel the article could use another map depicting geography of the time period if such a map exists. Something to give the viewer a sense of the functioning of the monorail. Does the Monorail Route exist on any maps between 1884 and 1914? I'm not seeing anything in commons:Category:Maps of City Island, Bronx. Just a thought. --Wil540 art (talk) 00:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Wil540 art and RoySmith: Created a map for these two railroads using Julius Bien's Pelham map (1893) as a basemap.

Made a few assumptions: (a) what the exact location of the line either on the roadf or near by?; and (b) found a hotel in the middle of City Island, not sure this was the stop. Your comments and feedback welcome! - DutchTreat (talk) 14:14, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice! I had done some searching for a

WP:RS for Brown's Hotel, and didn't find anything; I'm hesitant to put anything on the map that can't be reliably sourced. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:23, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply

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@RoySmith: Uploaded version 2 which removes the stop labelled "Hotel" on City Island. I agree that this map should not introduce unsourced information. Thank you for the quick response. - DutchTreat (talk) 11:02, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Added that to the article. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:16, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very nicely done @DutchTreat:! --Wil540 art (talk) 23:13, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]