Talk:Principality of Kiev

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The common English-language name for the medieval state centred around modern-day Kyiv is Kievan Rus' Although the modern-day capital of Ukraine is commonly spelled Kyiv in current English, per the Wikipedia policy WP:COMMONNAME and the community consensus outlined on this talk page in April 2021 , we use the spelling for the medieval state that is the more common name in English-language historiography, which is Kievan Rus', not Kyivan Rus'. This is not a comment on the identity or association of the medieval state to any modern country, language or culture; it is merely the spelling by which it is more commonly known in English-language literature. Please do not request that Kievan Rus' be changed to Kyivan Rus': any such request will be denied.

Don't know why this was redirecting to the Kievan Rus', they are different entities and other language wikipedias have entries for this principality and I consider it pretty important in the history of this region. Anywho, I've 'created' the page but I am no editor so true editors can continue the work. =) (polskaGOLA) (talk) 13:31, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Contemporary drawing – it is a mystification. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 11:52, 13 July 2013 (UTC) Ruthenia is term used in old Latin literature or nowadays term for Rusynsy from Carphatian mountains, please do not use it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kovanja (talk • contribs) 00:00, 8 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

T0mk0us,

not that was voted that everz instance of Kiev in the English WP should be substituted, but the Kiev article's title. The possbility/validity of other moves are being discussed, not settled yet, and by historical entities are not even sure, because they did not bear present-day names. Hence until these issues are not settled, you should stop mass changing articles, no consensus for this.(KIENGIR (talk) 20:03, 21 September 2020 (UTC))[reply]

I reverted recent changes with this edit: [1]. The changes are not in line with the preponderance of sources on the topic of the "Principality of Kiev"; see ngram: [2]. --K.e.coffman (talk) 01:13, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

KIENGIR and K.e.coffman,I agree concerning that not all instances of Kiev should be changed to Kyiv. The best example is Chicken Kiev - it the name of a dish. It will stay as it is. However, anything, which refers to the city of Kiev, MUST be referring to the city of Kyiv. Because there is not such city as Kiev. There is only Kyiv. It will be done soon or later, so, please, do not put in the garbage the work of the editors who are doing the changes, that MUST TO BE DONE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by T0mk0us (talk • contribs)

MUST be referring to the city of Kyiv and that MUST TO BE DONE -- this was not the outcome of the Kyiv RM and there's no such ruling. In addition, it's pointless to create piped links, i.e. [[Kievan Rus'|Kyievan Rus']], when the underlying article is "

Kievan Rus". --K.e.coffman (talk) 00:22, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply

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No, @K.e.coffman: have right, you pretend not to understand and fail to listen. Stop edit warring, and follow our policies.(KIENGIR (talk) 10:56, 23 September 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Would it be possible to edit the princes of Kiev graphic to be in Latin script? 80.122.145.38 (talk) 08:06, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]