Talk:Reece Clarke

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A fact from Reece Clarke appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 June 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Royal Ballet dancer Reece Clarke once filled in for a lead role mid-show, opposite a ballerina he had never danced with, after having ten minutes to prepare?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Reece Clarke.

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 02:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Royal Ballet dancer Reece Clarke once filled in for a lead role in MacMillan's Manon mid-show, opposite a ballerina he had never danced with, after having ten minutes to prepare? Source: [1]
- ALT1: ~~... that dancer Reece Clarke performed his first lead role at the Royal Ballet a year after he joined the company, in Ashton's Symphonic Variations?~~ Source: offline
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/This Love (Taylor Swift song)

Created by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 16:26, 22 May 2022 (UTC).[reply]

@Corachow The sources are mostly good (I would remove the twitter source), the subject is notable with no controversial sentences, the article is sufficiently long, and the first hook is interesting. It's a little long though, so I think

~~... that Royal Ballet dancer Reece Clarke once filled in for a lead role after only having ten minutes to prepare?~~

would be better. Also, Earwig is picking up a little bit of potential plagiarism (16%) so you might want to fix that up a bit. To save you time --> [2] Haiiya (talk) (contribs) 02:53, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Haiiya: The Twitter source is used next to a Financial Times review to established his promotion in January 2020. The article says he was promoted before that specific show but did not mention when he was promoted. The tweet is the most official-sounding thing that mentions the date. 16% in earwig is considered violation unlikely, and there's barely anything I can rephrase. The hook character limit is 200 and this one is 187, so it's not too long. I don't like your ALT because it missed some important details, but I'm providing an alternate below:

ALT0a: ... that Royal Ballet dancer Reece Clarke once filled in for a lead role mid-show, opposite a ballerina he had never danced with, after having ten minutes to prepare?

This is 166 character. I'm willing to cut the ballet title because it is not as well-known to the general public, but I won't shorten it more. Corachow (talk) 12:10, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Corachow Alright, I think we're good to go. I would still remove the twitter regardless as it's a primary source. If there's nothing that backs up when he was promoted in a secondary source, you should remove it. Haiiya (talk) (contribs) 21:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's the point of the tweet. No secondary sources specifically says it was January 2020. It's either "newly" promoted in reviews of that show or just mentioning the year in something published later. However, "newly" can be defined differently depending on who you ask, and there is a huge difference between January and March 2020 due to COVID. The tweet is not ideal but it's the best thing we have. Corachow (talk) 22:08, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm honestly fine with primary sources if used with secondary sources, but I just have something against twitter, sorry for bothering you.. Haiiya (talk) (contribs) 22:24, 29 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]