Talk:Schichau-class torpedo boat

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Peacemaker67 you can find my B-class review below, cheers. It's pretty much a B-class and I don't have anything barring a couple minor comments myself. Mr rnddude (talk) 07:48, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• B1;Met with ease.
• B2;Meets the expectations, I didn't find anything additionally worth adding and Google Books just gives ten word snippets.
• B3;Has a well defined structure,
• B4;Minor prose comments-

• All were reconstructed between 1900 and 1910 - I think "All Schichau-class boats ... " or "The entire class was" would be easier to follow.

• Done.

• All had been discarded and broken up by 1925 - "All of them", "All the boats", or similar.

• Done.

• On the same point; All had been discarded and broken up by 1925, except one of the Yugoslav boats which was retained as a training vessel. would perhaps read better as; Except for one of the Yugoslav boats which was retained as a training vessel, all of the boats had been discarded and broken up by 1925.

• Done.

• After capture during the April 1941 invasion of Yugoslavia she saw service with the Italians then the Germans during World War II. - Any chance you know which Yugoslav boat by name - Uhu/No. 36/D2 if I followed everything correctly?

• Yes, but I don't think it helps in the lead, as the boats and their designations haven't been mentioned at that point.

• ... although all had been ... - all of these had been scrapped/all of these were scrapped ....

• Done.

• Interesting that only the Weihe is unknown in all of the aspects of the building process. All I could find was this, but, I imagine it's a dubious source.

• I know, weird. But perhaps Greger focussed on the boats that saw service in WWI, so didn't worry about it?

• B5; Are there any supporting images that could be placed into the article? If not that's fine, but, if so then adding one would solidify the B5 criterion.

• Not that I could find.

Thanks for the review! Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:08, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, updated to B-class. Mr rnddude (talk) 08:10, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Where does the title come from? I don't have Greger or Vego in front of me at the moment, but Conway's doesn't appear to give the class a name. I also find it odd that the class would be named for the Schichau-Werke, since the Pola boats came first. In any event, it ought not be italicized, since only classes named after the lead ship are italicized. Parsecboy (talk) 21:49, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It comes from Greger, but alternatively they could be called 78t-class, in a similar way to the 250t-class. I'll fix the italicisation, I regularly screw that up... Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 22:44, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Vego calls them Schichau class. See this. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:12, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think Sondhaus gives us the explanation for the name - on pages 90 and 91, he states "Ten of the fifty-three boats added under Sterneck were built in foreign yards, eight by Schichau and two by Yarrow; of the forty-three built in Pola and Trieste, twenty-five were copies of Schichau boats..." That would include the sixteen 78t boats built in Austria-Hungary - seems obvious how the vessels came to be referred to as the Schichau-class. Parsecboy (talk) 02:31, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discarded seems an odd word to use for a ship or boat. Decommissioned, scrapped. Maybe disposed of or broken up. Perhaps they were abandoned? If the specifics of their fate is not known perhaps decommissioned is safest? Billlion (talk) 13:11, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Odd, but in this case somewhat appropriate. As described in the "Service History" section, one boat was transferred to the Army (who knows why they wanted it), so it could reasonably be said the Navy discarded it. I think there is an error in the lede, tho, where it says "the remaining nine"; the correct count based on the "Service History" appears to be 10. I think the author of the lede missed that one boat sank and was salvaged and returned to service. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:589:300:CA70:0:0:0:E438 (talk) 21:08, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know if it would be useful, but I came across an incident involving one of these boats. On 7 November 1893, Tb 22 collided with the cruiser SMS Lussin in the Hvar Channel. See the article on Lussin for the reference. Parsecboy (talk) 22:10, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Details always welcome. Added. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:37, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]