Talk:St. Louis Stars (baseball)

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Merger proposal

  • Support as proposer. (Dynamic IP, will change when I log off.) --64.85.215.125 (talk) 07:32, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

YesY Done It has been 11 days so I have completed the merge. Rgrds. (Dynamic IP, will change when I log off.) --64.85.216.171 (talk) 07:02, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting reincarnates from the St. Louis Stars, Detroit Stars & Indianapolis ABCs articles

ARTICLE SPLITS COMPLETED
Albeit 5 years later. --
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I believe there should be separate articles for the various reincarnates of the above teams. I am centralizing the discussion here to minimize confusion, with a note on the respective article talk pages pointing here. I have split off the articles at the following talk space drafts:

Feedback is requested. Feel free to tweak the articles. Rgrds. (Dynamic IP, will change when I log off.) --64.85.217.176 (talk) 14:27, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What have we said and done in the past concerning other nominal reincarnations --reuses of names in the same sense with and without continuity of ownership, management, etc?
Baseball examples:
Bold titles mark those that now cover multiple renditions comprehensively in one article. How important is separate notability as a criterion?
And elsewhere at EN.wikipedia? Bridges, schools, political units, businesses, other corporations (National blah foo). I have no good examples at hand.
--P64 (talk) 17:52, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Entertainment franchise
Alice in Wonderland
Most notable ballclubs and some ballparks are "businesses" and some of both are "other corporations".
Do St. Louis Stars and St. Paul Saints, for example, differ from other examples in that trademarks eligible for legal protection were not in fact protected? Probably not. If intellectual property rights were acquired by re-incarnators the argument for splitting the articles would be the same, probably.
--P64 (talk) 18:17, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not 100% sure I follow what you're saying, but I think you're just trying to establish consistency based on other areas of Wikipedia? Fair enough, but the main reason these articles should be split is because of
WP:N -- any major Negro League team is notable enough to justify having its own WP article, from the lowly Newark Stars to the powerhouse Chicago American Giants. By not having separate articles, it is confusing when you have the 1938 ABCs (II) moving to StL (becoming the Stars (II)) and being replaced the next season by the ABCs (III); its the same as the 1960 Washington Senators being replaced by the expansion Senators. The continuity gets blurred so one team appears as another. A few years ago there was not that much info on WP about the same-named teams, but currently they have enough info for stand alone articles (or at least start-class articles, which is sufficient). Rgrds. (Dynamic IP, will change when I log off.) --64.85.215.177 (talk) 14:09, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply
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I don't really have strong opinions one way or the other. If splitting them is going to leave one of the articles as a stub, I guess I'd rather not do the split, but really there's no right or wrong - it's just a matter of style. I've run across this issue with articles on minor league teams, and sometimes I've preferred to split them and other times not. If you're planning to improve the articles, I'll let you be the judge. BRMo (talk) 02:39, 8 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Earlier teams

Should the Blue Stockings / Bluestockings be noted? FloridaArmy (talk) 13:33, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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User:Bison X Here's a book detailing some aspects of the Bluestockings. FloridaArmy (talk) 12:05, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply
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I not sure there is enough relation to mention them here, but you might have enough info for a stand alone article. If not, a brief mention in
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