Talk:William Harvey Carney

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"Although other African Americans had been awarded the Medal of Honor prior to Carney, his was the first action by any African American to merit the award." Says who? This is an inappropriate POV and an insult to those African Americans who were previously awarded the medal. I'm not even sure if there were any, so I'm removing this sentence. Any complaints/ etc, please refer it to my talk page. --V. Joe 21:34, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, his ACTION that earned him the award was on July 18, 1863. He was AWARDED the medal on May 23, 1900. A number of other black men were AWARDED the medal of honor BEFORE May 23, 1900, but these were all for ACTIONS that happened AFTER July 18, 1863.

If we list all the Black American medal of honor recipients by the date on which they were AWARDED it, Carney will NOT be listed first. But if we list them by the date of the ACTION in which they merited the award, Carney will be listed first.

There is no POV, there is no insult intended or implied.

KEVP

See the article on History.com William H. Carney: 54th Massachusetts Soldier and First Black U.S. Medal of Honor Recipient stating his action was the first by an African-American that resulted in the MoH award.Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 18:11, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the logic... HOWEVER, I think that the sentence is still unclear and should be rewritten... PS: Also address please consider addressing other editors with sembelance of good manners

V. Joe 18:15, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To built on the concept, V. Joe is referring to

WP:DBAD. --Bobak 06:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply

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Sgt. Carney never let Old Glory touch the ground even though he was shot and in pain. Sgt. Carney was the first African American to be in the war^{[citation needed]} a new African American regiment named the 54 Regiment formed in the 1800's. There's a book written, based on his life story. I've been reading and reading about him and my job to fulfill his legacy. He is one hero that participated war as the first African American but somebody might not realize what he did for this country and for history and thats why I think he is important to me. He is one of my heroes and I think everyone in this world should think about what these soldiers did to help this world during slavery.

by Kyrel Barboza, a student at Sgt. Carney Elementary School.

Wasn't he the first Afican American winner of the Medal of Honor?Fconaway (talk) 04:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

so earn was used to decribe his getting his award, but the problem was that it sounds as if one is saying blacks of today or in WWII or etc did not earn their awards. Now i am hoping that was not what was meant by that. When I clicked on Robert Blake and saw recieved also in italics, i thought maybe they were trying to differenitate between getting the award right when you are supposed to and not getting the award til years/decades later due to racial injustices.

But I still feel there has to be a better word than earn because most may not click on Robert Blake or make the connection between the italicized earn and the italicized recieve. So its best to use receive on both and just explain that one did not get theirs when they should have gotten it, unless one can come up with a better word choice to describe the action without making it sound like they are saying that blacks today or in the 20th century didnt deserve those honors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.91.186.250 (talk) 03:48, 13 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted the word ‘ironically’ and the phrase ‘but he still received the award’ since about half of Army medals for the Civil War were awarded in the 1890s. What was unusual was that Carney was the only living African American to receive the Medal of Honor so long after the Civil War ended. Anthony Staunton (talk) 13:54, 5 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]