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This article is about a village, not the origin of the language spoken there. I've removed a large amount of material to reflect this. - TB (talk) 22:58, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

all claimes of Kasravi are lie and hasn't any academic facts and background as I elaborated in zonooz farsi page. ^[1]The existing of one village with people spiking farsi isn't a good fact for claime that all of the people living in the region has Arian origin. all people in region are Turks and speak Turki Azerbijani.^[2] formal language doesn't determine ethnic origin of people and there maternal tongue.Zenuoz (talk) 07:44, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A quick check through some relevant sources doesn't give any indication that this village has any special relevance in the wider fields of linguistics, genealogy or social history. I'm not disputing your facts, just their relevance to this article. Perhaps much of the explanation, justification and background material would be best moved into footnotes. Similarly, quite a few of the gallery pictures probably need some explanation as to what they illustrate that is unique to Zonouz. - TB (talk) 09:24, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm attempting to clean up this article (which is a mess), and am moving this:

Caucasian origin Main article: Caucasian origin of the Azerbaijanis A painting of Haji Zeynalabdin Taghiyev (1838–1924), a leading Azeri industrialist and philanthropist.

Looks like a new section/link was begun, but since the destination article has been tagged for POV I won't pursue it. There may be an image on Commons, but I don't have time to look; I've tried to tone down the worst of the POV, but this article is in need of accessible sources.

In many references, Azerbaijanis are designated as a Turkic people, due to their Turkic language. However, modern-day Azerbaijanis are believed to be primarily the descendants of the

Caucasian and Iranic peoples who lived in the areas of the Caucasus and northern Iran, respectively, prior to Turkification. Various historians including Vladimir Minorsky

explain how largely Iranian and Caucasian populations became Turkish-speaking:

“ In the beginning of the 5th/11th century the Ghuzz hordes, first in smaller parties, and then in considerable numbers, under the Seljuqids occupied Azarbaijan. In consequence, the Iranian population of Azarbaijan and the adjacent parts of Transcaucasia became Turkophone while the characteristic features of Ādharbāyjānī Turkish, such as Persian intonations and disregard of the vocalic harmony, reflect the non-Turkish origin of the Turkicised population." ”

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