Template:Did you know nominations/Soulard Farmers Market

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:38, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Soulard Farmers Market

Soulard Farmers Market

• ... that Soulard Farmers Market (pictured) is the oldest continuously operated public market in the United States west of the Mississippi River? Source: [1]

Created by LittleT889 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:09, 19 August 2018 (UTC).

• Reviewed: MIS416

Image eligibility:

• Freely licensed
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• Used in article:
• Clear at 100px: - An uninteresting and rather generic picture that can be taken at just about any large farmers market.

Overall: I suggest removing the SeedStock reference entirely, as that's a self-published advocacy website, rather than a reliable source. Other than that (and the image), this is good to go. SounderBruce 06:57, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

• public market is one in the same as a farmers' market, I don't think we can safely combine "oldest continuously operating farmers’ market" with "oldest public market" to produce the hook "oldest continuously operated public market". Use one fact or another as the hook, but do not combine them.—Bagumba (talk
  ) 08:43, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
  • We can do this then: ALT1"... that Soulard Farmers Market has a reputation of being the oldest public market in the United States west of the Mississippi River? [2] LittleT889 (talk) 22:01, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
    • @LittleT889: Can you also update the text in the article? Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 00:52, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
      • YesLittleT889 (talk) 22:42, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
        • ALT1 hook approved.—Bagumba (talk) 10:33, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

• Hi, I came by to promote this, but tagged the first paragraph under History for being too long and off-topic. It would be better to focus on the market's history rather than this roundabout family history. Also, the ALT1 hook is not going to draw anyone in, IMO, especially without an image. I think you should take something else from the article, like:
• ALT2: ... that most sellers at the Soulard Farmers Market in St. Louis, Missouri, are not farmers, but merchants who buy their produce wholesale? Yoninah (talk) 18:13, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

• @Yoninah: ALT2 is a statement about the present, but the references used are almost 10 years old. Granted it's not a BLP, but I would generally not prefer negative hooks about a current entity either.—Bagumba (talk) 03:38, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

• I agree with Bagumba LittleT889 (talk) 03:20, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

• Restoring tick for ALT1 per Bagumba. Yoninah (talk) 17:37, 29 September 2018 (UTC)