Template talk:Economy and industry of Cardiff
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Major employers
I've removed a few public sector bodies that actually employ relatively few people locally. Cardiff Council lists major employers here (although the source is a few years old) and the Cardiff Business Directory[1] is another useful source.--
Pondle (talk) 16:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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Independent record labels
I've removed these because I don't think that they are really relevant to the template - their number of employees and turnover is likely to be in the very small range, hence their economic contribution is likely to be negligible.
Pondle (talk) 17:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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Scope of the template
I don't believe that this template should include companies that aren't actually located in Cardiff, such as
Pondle (talk) 17:08, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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- I agree, that would be strange. I suggest only including firms located in neigbouring authorities that play a significant role in the economy of Cardiff. BAMC is based at Cardiff Airport and wouldn't be there if Cardiff did not exist. Welshleprechaun 07:38, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
- I take your point about the relevance of Cardiff Airport, nevertheless I'm still uncomfortable about including employers based outside the local authority - I would prefer to stick to the listings in the Cardiff Business Directory, which is clear and umambiguous. If no-one from WP Wales offers a view I'll raise the template at Pondle (talk) 10:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)]
- I take your point about the relevance of Cardiff Airport, nevertheless I'm still uncomfortable about including employers based outside the local authority - I would prefer to stick to the listings in the Cardiff Business Directory, which is clear and umambiguous. If no-one from WP Wales offers a view I'll raise the template at
Request for comment
I would welcome comment on several issues:
(a) Should companies based outside Cardiff be included on the template? If so, what criteria should be used to determine inclusion?
(b) Are the
(c) Should one-off major events be included?--
Pondle (talk) 20:47, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
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- On the first, only those in Cardiff, on the third only major-major events, but in general no, on the second I am not qualified to say.--Snowded TALK 22:39, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- You will notice that only one-off events that are "major-major" such as the Commonwealth Games and Tsunami Relief have been included. It would be ludicrous to include every one off festival or concert that has taken place in Cardiff; the template would be never-ending. As for the companies based outside Cardiff, there is only one on the template, BAMC based at Cardiff Airport and would not exist if Cardiff weren't there. I would not recommend adding any further companies based outside the city for the same reason. So let's be sensible here. Welshleprechaun 07:46, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- I agree that we need to be sensible. That's why IMO focus should be on (as the title suggests) the economy - employers and amenities contributing to the ongoing production and consumption of goods and services - within Cardiff. I don't believe that past sporting or cultural events are relevant. OK, they created economic activity in the past, but they aren't factors in employment and GVA in 2010. You can make a case for the Tsunami Relief event at a push, but the 1958 Commonwealth Games? What relevance does it have to the present-day economy of Cardiff?--Pondle (talk) 19:25, 14 July 2010 (UTC)]
- I agree that we need to be sensible. That's why IMO focus should be on (as the title suggests) the economy - employers and amenities contributing to the ongoing production and consumption of goods and services - within Cardiff. I don't believe that past sporting or cultural events are relevant. OK, they created economic activity in the past, but they aren't factors in employment and GVA in 2010. You can make a case for the Tsunami Relief event at a push, but the 1958 Commonwealth Games? What relevance does it have to the present-day economy of Cardiff?--
- You will notice that only one-off events that are "major-major" such as the Commonwealth Games and Tsunami Relief have been included. It would be ludicrous to include every one off festival or concert that has taken place in Cardiff; the template would be never-ending. As for the companies based outside Cardiff, there is only one on the template, BAMC based at Cardiff Airport and would not exist if Cardiff weren't there. I would not recommend adding any further companies based outside the city for the same reason. So let's be sensible here. Welshleprechaun 07:46, 13 July 2010 (UTC)