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Draft:Trace Cureton

Thanks for handling the draft of Draft:Trace Cureton. Just wanted to note that the socks involved have moved it back to mainspace under their own terms and rationale in the past [1]. Could be one to keep an eye on. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 10:01, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Let me know if you see anything. One more time and we'd probably just
WP:SALT it.—Bagumba (talk
) 10:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
Actutually, there's already a long history. I salted to require extended confirmed access to create.—Bagumba (talk) 10:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Protect Myles Powell?

Pending 2-way signing w the Bucks. Rikster2 (talk) 00:50, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Done.—Bagumba (talk) 03:21, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Might need a few more days. Transaction still not announced Rikster2 (talk) 20:14, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Added another 4d.—Bagumba (talk) 00:46, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Just for revenue, the Bucks ended up signing Axel Toupane instead. Another case for waiting until a transaction happens. Rikster2 (talk) 02:02, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Need advice for possible NOTHERE editor

Baseballfan1948 has been around for awhile mostly editing very minor league baseball and basketball team articles. I don't know much about baseball, but many of the semi-pro basketball team articles they create are borderline GNG to well below GNG, and many have expressed the same with similar noms and prods as seen at User talk:Baseballfan1948 (and probably also User talk:Syracusestorm based on edit history). Recently, they have been making undiscussed page moves (like this) or creations that I expressly said would be taken care of (this was originally an copy-paste page move over a future name redirect before a history merge after I said to wait until the season ended on their talk page). To date, they have never made a talk page edit or wikiproject edit. Their edit summaries are almost always "updated". I like that they pay attention to the small leagues that others do not update or do not have time to frequently check (such as myself), but I want them to collaborate instead of ignore. I don't like losing an editor that could help, but if they won't try to learn or work with anyone else, when do they become "disruptive"? Any ideas on the best path forward? Yosemiter (talk) 05:56, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

WP:TOPICBAN. Of course, it's better if everyone in the community can reach some resolution which precludes that from being necessary. Let me know if you have further questions or concerns. Cheers. —Bagumba (talk
) 14:10, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, sometimes getting pinged on an admin's page might wake some folks up. While I'm here, what are you're thoughts on their comment at Talk:Erie BayHawks? Since you are the one who recently moved it to the unambiguous name, and the team does seem to be going to B-ham next season, when and how should the article be dealt with? Thank you, Yosemiter (talk) 17:52, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Yosemiter: I left a comment there. I generally don't follow G League too much. My beef there previously was the weird (2019–) disambiguator, so I boldly dropped it altogether, but someone could have argued (2019–present) if they wanted. —Bagumba (talk) 23:48, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
I figured that is why you moved it. The article was created in 2018, so 2019–present felt wrong at the time and I just never got around to moving again knowing it was temporary. Thank you for your input. Yosemiter (talk) 19:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Protect trade subjects

P. J. Tucker, Rodions Kurucs, Torrey Craig, D. J. Wilson, D. J. Augustin. I’d recommend autoconfirmed user only Rikster2 (talk) 00:17, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Done.—Bagumba (talk) 10:36, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Breonna Taylor Page

Bagumba, you cannot remove the fact that Kenneth Walker initially told the police Breonna shot at the police when initially being arrested and then add a Vice article about the witness changing his mind a week after endless publicity of the event and death threats he received to change his reporting of the event. In a trial law or any judicial system, witnesses cannot simply change their recounting of events when it's convenient for them, which is clear as day in this case. So I wonder unless you want to push a POV why you would decide it's not relevant to include the fact Walker lied to the police and blamed Breonna for the shooting but it's relevant to mention the neighbor changed his mind a week after everything. It seems as if only things that push blame or fault on the police are allowed onto the article.

Please explain.

Pformenti (talk) 20:47, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Moved to article talk page.—Bagumba (talk) 10:39, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Harrison Barnes

If you could protect Harrison Barnes, it would be appreciated.--User:Namiba 14:16, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Namiba: We dont protect pages because of one user's vandalism. The user should just be blocked, which someone already did. —Bagumba (talk) 18:06, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
He is the subject of a significant amount of trade speculation, which will only increase in the next week. Pre-emptively protecting the article to avoid further disruptive editing would be a good idea.--20:38, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
@
WP:NO-PREEMPT: Applying page protection as a preemptive measure is contrary to the open nature of Wikipedia and is generally not allowed if applied for these reasonsBagumba (talk
) 00:24, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Black College Football Hall of Fame

On 19 March 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Black College Football Hall of Fame, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the co-founders of the Black College Football Hall of Fame attended the same historically black university and were both quarterbacks in the National Football League? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Black College Football Hall of Fame. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Black College Football Hall of Fame), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

IP needs a timeout

User:73.123.2.236. Heights/weights positions and has been warned before. Rikster2 (talk) 00:11, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Done. 3mos.—Bagumba (talk) 00:53, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Protect Evan Fournier

Please put a vandalism template on Evan Fournier Mastergerwe97 (talk) 16:26, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

page protection). —Bagumba (talk
) 16:32, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, it’s quite annoying having to revert, I used to do this a long time ago, until I released that the player has to be on the roster for it to count. Mastergerwe97 (talk) 16:34, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I use NBA trade tracker to find out everything Mastergerwe97 (talk) 17:57, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

protection for NBA trade pages

Hi Bagumba, can you also protect R. J. Hampton and Gary Clark (basketball), Tony Bradley (basketball), Ignas Brazdeikis? Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 18:58, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Natg 19: Protected all but Brazdeikis, which is sourced and completed now. —Bagumba (talk) 00:47, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Superteams page

I don't see anyway in which that article can be written from a neutral perspective. Miami being the first superteam is simply inaccurate and the article is entirely anti-LeBron James propaganda. In order to paint Miami as a the first superteam in NBA history a lot of semantics have to be applied. 74.88.70.43 (talk) 23:58, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi there. I de-prodded it from the perspective that
WP:EXAMPLEFARM of the details of each instance. Feel free to nominate it for AFD if you think the topic is not salvageable. Regards.—Bagumba (talk
) 03:43, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

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) 18:23, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

KillerGho$t's new sock?

I have a feeling that

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) 01:24, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
He is back as
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) 11:44, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Sabbatino: Sorry, unrelated essay. More like the real game Whac-A-Mole.—Bagumba (talk
) 11:47, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
He is back as
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) 00:51, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
He is back as
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Back as
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Back as

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) 18:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Sabbatino: Blocked. —Bagumba (talk
) 00:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
That was quick –
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) 10:43, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
) 11:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Back as
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Back as

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) 15:45, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
I was not sure what the link to the permitted awards was so decided to revert it. In other news –
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) 05:30, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Sabbatino: Blocked. —Bagumba (talk
) 03:14, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Back as
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) 18:10, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Sabbatino: Blocked. —Bagumba (talk
) 00:49, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I am not sure, but

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) 23:14, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Sabbatino,: Blocked, but they already seemed to go inactive after your report.—Bagumba (talk
) 08:10, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
New account –
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) 16:24, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Sabbatino: Blocked, and again, the account went idle after you reported. —Bagumba (talk
) 01:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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) 20:37, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Sabbatino: Blocked. —Bagumba (talk
) 01:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

IP 172.4.55.154 et al

Hi Bagumba,

The IP editor you messaged re incorrect information here, has been using several IPs, that all geolocate to Fullerton, in California USA, to add unsourced and incorrect information all over the place.
• I have twice reverted the false assertion that face masks were required to attend the Sydney Royal Easter Show, added twice by different IPs, see here. They have added similar/related COVID-19 information to several articles. They also frequently change, (or add without a cite) that an event was cancelled to "on hiatus".

I gave them an im4 lvl block warning after reverting their false information at the Easter show, it's just above your warning. After that I've been reverting their unsourced edits on sight.

They've been doing this since at least June last year.
IPs used include:

- Which is continuing to make apparently unsourced changes to basketball pages.
- Also adding likely trivia to USA phone area code pages.

I'm wondering if there is a known vandal linked to this Fullerton city?
Needs an IP range block perhaps?
Regards, 220 of ßorg 04:28, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

checkuser access). Regards. —Bagumba (talk
) 05:24, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I'll keep an eye out for any more silliness. Personally I think they'll continue, they've been warned many times. Some of it isn't that important, but when they re-add erroneous information, that I've removed, that contradicts easily found sources (eg. face masks at the Sydney Show), I get a bit peeved. >:-( 220 of ßorg 05:48, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

These Kakapos thank you

Gratitude of the Kakapos
These lil birds and I want to thank you for closing that off-topic discussion at
Talk:Killing of George Floyd. Firefangledfeathers (talk
) 02:07, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
@Firefangledfeathers: You are welcome. Kudos to you for moving that discussion to completion.—Bagumba (talk) 05:34, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Hey I got some of those too from Firefangledfeathers. Maybe we can let them play together? Drmies (talk) 20:44, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Drmies: Legend has it that they get medieval on conspiracists.—Bagumba (talk) 01:24, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Help

i have a infobox that is on my page, may you help fix it, if you can at any time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiefs All Day! (talkcontribs) 00:00, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@Chiefs All Day!: Fixed it here. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 01:36, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Reopen Daunte Wright protests at ITN

Hi! I'm wondering if you wanted to reopen the ITN for the Daunte Wright protests, as the page is no longer at AfD?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:5890:69F0:B84D:2A44:91B2:2444 (talk) 15:01, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Someone else has already done so, though you could have
boldly re-opened it as well. Regards.—Bagumba (talk
) 16:33, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Please look

Can you look at my new draft at Draft:Aari McDonald and approve it for creation because it needs to be created because she’s a WNBA player now lol — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stntinoo (talkcontribs) 00:21, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

WP:AFC.—Bagumba (talk
) 00:50, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Mostert's Mill

I've reverted your removal of the bold link at Template:ITN. Firstly, both articles were nominated, initially separately, later combined into one nomination. Both articles had to meet the criteria to be posted, and both were bolded when posted. Mostert's Mill was the only traditional windmill in working order in the whole of Africa, as well as the oldest surviving. It is an extremely important mill and fully deserves its place on the Main Page. Mjroots (talk) 12:04, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Mjroots: Thanks for the notification. I still maintain it's a paltry update, and the lead ("badly damaged") is inconsistent with its body ("gutted"). Cheers. —Bagumba (talk) 12:42, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Feedback appreciated, will amend article. Mjroots (talk) 12:53, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

RFC Notice

This is a friendly editor notice that an RFC has begun about an "Wait" !Vote for

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) 13:10, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Kamala

I have reverted your edit on Kamala, the disambiguation page for a word with known Sanskrit origin. If there is some kind of problem with this, please let me know which Wikipedia guideline it is in violation of. Thanks. Avindratalk 10:55, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

WP:NONENGEL applies. However, I see that the Sanskrit entry curiously is on English Wiktionary. Something doesn't seem right, but I'll defer to your best judgement.—Bagumba (talk
) 02:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Tough work

I noticed your efforts on some of the George Floyd articles and wanted to say I really appreciate all the hard work to keep things calm, respectful of all sides, and overall a positive front for the readers in a very difficult topic. It's impressive, and I appreciate what you're doing. — Ched (talk) 02:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Integrity
For your outstanding work in difficult current events. — Ched (talk) 02:57, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Kate Pearson

You added a category, but there is a more notable topic now where the spelling is correct, and it's possible an article could be created for that topic. I don'[t know all the categories.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:50, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Vchimpanzee: I see you were able to change the redirect. Did you have any other questions?—Bagumba (talk) 03:20, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
I am not experienced with putting redirects in categories, but I seem to recall one like I added. Is that the correct category for this?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:03, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Vchimpanzee: I'm not familiar with the show. The category is fine if you think she could be notable enough to make into a standalone page. For other categories, you can refer to Wikipedia:Template index/Redirect pages.—Bagumba (talk) 16:19, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
That's what I needed. Thanks.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:20, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

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Responded there. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 07:22, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

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Hello Bagumba, just to inform you that I've temporarily protected your talk page at Wikidata for a month for obvious reasons. If an extension or any other help is needed, don't hesitate to ping me. --Minorax (talk) 08:57, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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Reduce protection level of Kevin Durant article

On July 10, 2017, you indefinitely extended-protected the Kevin Durant article. At the time, Durant was "in the news regarding a reported signing" and some users were adding unsourced content regarding the reported signing.

As of now (May 7, 2021) the article has been extended-protected for nearly four years, and has experienced zero vandalism. The protection should be lowered to semi. Most high-profile NBA players' articles are semi-protected and I cannot find any other basketball player with an extended-protected article. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 19:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

@Crossover1370: We can trial it, as there's no way to know if the "zero vandalism" has been from the protection or not. At least while he was with the Warriors, the level of vitriol in certain edits persisted for as long as I've ever seen for a sportsperson.—Bagumba (talk) 01:24, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for lowering the level of protection - should be enough considering he isn't part of the GSW anymore and has been with the Brooklyn Nets since 2019. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 01:33, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Glad you caught that!

I saw the reverted vandalism on

2021 Meron stampede, and went and warned the offending user and welcomed the new user who'd reverted it... but somehow overlooked that the latter had only reverted 10% of the blanking. Glad you noticed! -- Tamzin (they/she) | o toki tawa mi.
03:08, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Tamzin: Actually, it was someone on the talk page that noted it. But I'll take credit for fixing it. Ha. Best.—Bagumba (talk) 04:23, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Ohio State colors

You know if there is a way to make it so that the Ohio State’s Gray is still used in the infobox but not the navigation boxes? I saw you removed it due to contrast, which I don’t have a problem with, however it is part of their official school colors (Scarlet and Gray)… Corky 22:35, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Garrett Wilson (American football) and Template:Ohio State Buckeyes football navbox. Are you referring to something different?—Bagumba (talk
) 01:21, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Articles for deletion

Hi Bagumba, could you please check this out Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019 Serbia FIBA Basketball World Cup team and make your contribution. Thanks. --IndexAccount (talk) 18:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey thank you for explaining. Sorry when ESPN reported it I assumed that meant it was credible source.

ITN recognition for Colt Brennan

On 18 May 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Colt Brennan, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 06:21, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Protect Caleb Swanigan?

Lots of joke weight changes. Rikster2 (talk) 21:34, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok, 3 days. Hopefully just a news blip.—Bagumba (talk) 00:49, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Darwin's Arch

On 20 May 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Darwin's Arch, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 02:32, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

LeBron James

Is he legitimately a point guard, as it says in his infobox? I know he handles the ball a lot but he pretty much always has a traditional PG in the starting lineup with him (currently Schroder). This feels like another Magic JOhnson situation where their primary position should be listed, not other positions they sometimes slide into because the player is versatile. Wasn't sure if this had been debated already so thought I'd ask (didn't see anything definitive on the talk page). Rikster2 (talk) 17:58, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

I didn't even notice it was added. B-r.com has listed him as a PG the last 2 years, but they're not always perfect IMO, but it is source at least. Last year is harder for me to dispute because they only had Rondo as a backup, and he led league in assists. Thing is, the league is going more position-less, so it's all kinda silly, but players are still "assigned" a position. Re: PG, people focus on offense, when LeBron and Magic rarely guard the opposing PG. I know you usually go by what their current team lists, so that would be F for James. And there's no "real" point forward as a listed position. You can try removing PG and see what happens, starting a discussion later if need be.—Bagumba (talk) 18:30, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Joe Beckwith

On 23 May 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Joe Beckwith, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 13:27, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Do you want to help work on a separate section for play-in games?

I saying this because these games count towards so dying and I don’t want them to be treated as exhibition games. Especially as so many people already view them as playoff games. Vinnylospo (talk) 03:37, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

I commented at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association#Play-in_games_and_coaching_record.—Bagumba (talk) 04:00, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Happy Vesak!

New Message

To @Bagumba: This is JEB1995. I've received a notification with someone mentioning my username. If I have caused any trouble, I certainly didn't mean to and I apologize. I've edited NBA teams season pages on Wikipedia before by adding extra information, and facts from other websites. I also used to add links to several websites. I have been blocked a few times, the rules on this site are very confusing and complicated. I asked for a request to create an account, I've never been signed into Wikipedia before, I had always edited without signing up. When I edit NBA teams season pages, I add information about player trades, free agent signings, schedule results, player stats, etc. There are some NBA team season pages that don't have much information at all on Wikipedia. I also change team roster colors to match their logos, uniforms and court designs from their respective seasons. If you think I'm editing too much in one day, I'll slow down. Like I said, I do NOT mean to break any rules or cause any trouble. If you're thinking about blocking me, please send me a warning first, I'd really appreciate it.

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) 20:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

sockpuppet (duplicate) of another editor's. If it's not, then kindly ignore it. Regards.—Bagumba (talk
) 02:34, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

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) 05:50, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

man

hey man whats your problem?? im trying to edit caleb houstan page, cause i personally know who he is and he told me the other day he would like to put that in, i dont get your problem why you keep taking it down, its not your problem you are not doing anything...— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Corey overtime (talkcontribs) 16:59, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

Someone else commented on your talk page.—Bagumba (talk) 00:27, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Protect Dillon Brooks?

It has been a target of vandalism recently. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 15:17, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

1 week.—Bagumba (talk) 15:27, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Might need another round. Rikster2 (talk) 19:10, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Ok, 2 weeks.—Bagumba (talk) 01:21, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

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KillerGho$t's sockpuppet

He has returned as

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) 14:57, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Sabbatino: Blocked. —Bagumba (talk
) 17:56, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
New sockpuppet –
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) 17:19, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Sabbatino: Blocked. —Bagumba (talk
) 07:38, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Possibly –
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) 07:56, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
Sabbatino: Blocked. —Bagumba (talk
) 08:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

New accounts –

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) 21:42, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Sabbatino:' Blocked. —Bagumba (talk
) 00:57, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
New one –
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) 10:52, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Sabbatino; Blocked. —Bagumba (talk
) 11:02, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
New –
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) 05:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
WP:SPI. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk
) 06:00, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
I am not going to file an WP:SPI, because the editor made more than 300 edits (and I am certainly not going through all of them) in a span of three days and all of them are NBA-related. It is very strange that a completely new editor would go straight to editing NBA team season pages, which just shows that it is someone who is already blocked and knows what to do. The last blocked sockpuppet (1LazerZ) popped up four days after the block (StaxW1), and this one (JEB1995) popped up two days after the block (1LazerZ). – 06:30, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Sabbatino There's a couple of other new accounts I've seen in the last few days. If it's the same, they've changed some things up. As long they edit productively ...—Bagumba (talk
) 06:36, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

This is clearly a sockpuppet –

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) 06:16, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Sabbatino: Sorry. I missed this post. But seems to be taken care of by #KillerGho$t? thread below.—Bagumba (talk
) 16:10, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

New change

Hey, i made a new change, i added a text about Mark and what he liked to do as hobbies. Is this correct? Sorry i am trying to learn. Appreciate your help thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajyee24 (talkcontribs) 18:43, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

I've commented on your talk page.—Bagumba (talk) 02:11, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

KillerGho$t?

User:IlzapK. What do you think?--Bbb23 (talk) 01:07, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

WP:DUCK. Do you remember if a CU was likely to turn up a range block on this one, or were they all over the map?—Bagumba (talk
) 03:13, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
My feeling is it would be best to block and request a CU. As I recall - and it's been a while - I didn't turn up other accounts, but I did find ranges to block. It looks to me like you've been blocking a number of accounts (no doubt because you look at more articles that the socks like to edit) without tags outside of SPI. I don't know if you've ever contacted a CheckUser on the side, though. In any event, what do you think we should do next?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:25, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
WP:DENY, but have noted in the block log. Not sure if that is an issue. Still, I was probably going to make one last ditch effort to file a CU request at some point, but dread putting together the necessary report details.—Bagumba (talk
) 14:59, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Hehe, understood. I've blocked and tagged
WP:DENY. On the one hand, I understand not giving the master undue recognition, but, OTOH, it does help at times identify socks by checking the master for tagged socks (as opposed to having the name of the master in the block log, as you've - and I many times in the past - have done). In any event, hopefully we will achieve what we want without you having to file a report. The only thing I'd appreciate your doing, because you know so much more about the sport than I, is to review the sock's edits to see if they need reverting. Meanwhile, based on this whole discussion Checkuser needed.--Bbb23 (talk
) 15:43, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Well that was one quick and painless confirmation, showing many other blocked accounts, also: Glanc3xsurg3, Sweep8LZx, LedgeofI. I'll pro-forma an SPI in a few hours. -- zzuuzz (talk) 15:52, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, zzuuzz!--Bbb23 (talk) 16:24, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
@Bbb23: Regarding reviewing their edits, they are typically factual. Their style sometimes differs from project norms, which is how they get flagged.—Bagumba (talk) 16:32, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
SPI. For the sake of clarity, JEB1995 doesn't appear to be related to this bunch. -- zzuuzz (talk) 17:22, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Zzuuzz: Thanks for taking care of that. The socks I've blocked within the last 3 months all seem to be listed. Is it worthwhile for me to file an SPI for a CU on ones older than 3 months too, or did those already look to be in the same range?—Bagumba (talk) 04:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Rumour has it that CU data doesn't go back beyond 90 days, so there's probably not much I can do with older accounts. -- zzuuzz (talk) 06:23, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Zzuuzz: Thanks for the link. Wikipedia:CheckUser is not as forthcoming.—Bagumba (talk) 07:20, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

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Every change of mine in an NBA article

I always comment “Please revert this edit if not okay. Thanks” everytime I made an edit to an

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@
assume good faith. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk
) 08:37, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

USA roster

Hey, thanks for the work on all the articles. But i think the roster should at the roster article and then be transcluded like it's been done with all other rosters, as we don't use template anymore those olympics but transclude "everything". Kante4 (talk) 18:05, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Kante4: Ah. I just copied from 2016. No prob if we're changing format.—Bagumba (talk) 18:08, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
You were not the only one, i started it also that way. ;) Kante4 (talk) 19:18, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Do i request deletion of the empy template or is it the creator? Have the same question with a handball squad, so i thought i asked you first. Kante4 (talk) 08:08, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
WP:CSD G7, except another editor, Dale Arnett, arguably made a significant contribution to it.[2] If they're OK, maybe it can be speedy deleted and avoid TfD.—Bagumba (talk
) 11:24, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, i was talking about speedy deletion, sorry, as i think it does not need a discussion, imo. Kante4 (talk) 11:26, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
No problem at my end. What I did was add birth dates and correct alpha sorting. — Dale Arnett (talk) 20:30, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
@Dale Arnett and Kante4:: I speedied it. Cheers. —Bagumba (talk) 06:56, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. Kante4 (talk) 08:19, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Kante4: As an aside, one downside to this section transclusion format is I don't mind monitoring the US roster, but I don't have knowledge or interest to do so for other countries. Not kind for watchlists, in my case.—Bagumba (talk) 08:24, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
As all of them are transcluded from the olympic roster article, all changes can be seen when having those article(s) on the watchlist. But no worries. Kante4 (talk) 08:28, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Kante4: That's the problem, I don't want to see every country's roster changes. C'est la vie. <endrant/>—Bagumba (talk) 08:37, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Ah ok, i got ya. ;) Kante4 (talk) 08:37, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Melbourne United

Hey mate. Could you please consider semi protecting Melbourne United for a short while. IPs are vandalising since they won the NBL championship. 3 seperate IPs two days ago and the same IP back today. Thanks. DaHuzyBru (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Done, 1 wk.—Bagumba (talk) 15:34, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Kartigang038885

You previously blocked

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) 17:08, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Sabbatino: I reminded them again about poorly sourced edits. Let me know if you see any other issues.—Bagumba (talk
) 17:26, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

What's really going on?

Can you tell me what's really going on? My past experience is that when someone brings up arguments that are not supported by the facts, it is pointless to respond to the argument, because there's really something else going on. I would hope that you and I have a shared goal — improving basketball related articles, so I'm not sure I am understanding your reaction. Have we interacted in the past? I don't recall it.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:23, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

WP:ONUS: While information must be verifiable to be included in an article, not all verifiable information needs to be included in an article. Consensus may determine that certain information does not improve an article, and that it should be omitted or presented instead in a different article. The onus to achieve consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content.Bagumba (talk
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I have learned my lesson after blocked for the second time.

After my second blocked expired last night (Philippine time), I realized I have learned a lesson. If I am going to add something, I will look for a

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