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Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

How do think that nickname shouldn’t be added...?Do you want me to add more Credible links to verify that every NFL writer calls him the goat!? Also the paragraph was pulled off NFL.com

How about you just google search “ whos the goat of the nfl” and see what comes up… Matty634 (talk) 21:21, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

@Matty634 while I agree many people (not me) call Brady the G.O.A.T., I also agree with the revert by Dissident93 as its not a very unique nickname. Its common as every major sport tries to find "a GOAT". Another thing, as reported by CBSSPORTS (and one of the top results when I searched "whos the goat of the nfl"), according to Pro-Football-Reference.com, Brady statistically is not the greatest QB ever, Peyton Manning is. As said in my revert, if you still believe the nickname should be added, please start a discussion at Talk:List of NFL nicknames or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League. Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:19, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

BeanieFan11, thanks for removing that 1896 reference. That was a weird copy/paste error I made, I guess. I had just added that reference to 1896 Missouri Tigers football team and 1896 Vanderbilt Commodores football team, where it belongs. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:16, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

I'd like to further explain why I removed quotes of old advertisements at

) are not subject to fact-checking and are published verbatim. They fail both the "independent" and "reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" requirements.

It might seem like it would be OK to quote an ad if it's clearly described as such, and in many types of writing that would be the case. However Wikipedia content is bound by our

policy, which tells us to cover "all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources." If something only appears in an unreliable source such as an ad, it doesn't merit inclusion here.

A rule of thumb I like to follow is that Wikipedia articles are based on what independent reliable sources say about the subject, not what the subject says about itself. –dlthewave ☎ 18:19, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article

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DYK for Matt Zabitka

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

The article John D. Naylor you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:John D. Naylor for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 08:01, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Can you make navboxes for the ACC coach of the year and those of other college conferences? Bigmike2346 (talk) 13:25, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

I would recommend against making such navboxes. I don't think conference awards rise to level of significance such that they warrant a navbox. And coach bio articles tend to have a whole lot of navboxes already! Jweiss11 (talk) 14:51, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Your decision to restore all of these men's soccer articles, for which there is extensive consensus that redirects are the right decision, is incredibly disruptive, especially since there is an open AFD regarding this exact issue. You should revert your changes until AFTER the AFD has concluded, not before. Jay eyem (talk) 23:11, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

There is already established consensus against the articles you are restoring. This was already settled in past AfDs and the most recent AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019 Ohio State Buckeyes men's soccer team. Do I seriously need to take this to AfD? Jay eyem (talk) 15:52, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

I disagree with your reversion; the user in question has made only a single edit that hasn't in some way been involved in promoting a political meme after making a series of 20 small edits on October 5/6. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 15:42, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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CCNY

Thanks for taking up the CCNY challenge. The sourcing I found did not indicate the school was known as "CCNY" in the 1870s, nor was there any indication of a "Lavender" nickname. Let me know if you find any evidence of that. If not, and assuming the articles are rescued, we should consider moving to "187* City College of New York football team" or something along those lines. Cbl62 (talk) 03:34, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

@Cbl62: sorry for the late response, I did not find them known as "CCNY" either, and would support moving the pages to 18__ City College of New York football team". BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:56, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Beanie. Cbl62 (talk) 11:16, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you! I love the history of football as well, so I'm looking forward to learning the world of Wiki from you and others Hubdb39 (talk) 16:53, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks :) BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:57, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello! I wanted to reach out and inquire if you would be interested in helping me create a page for Shepherd Rams football. (full disclosure, I graduated from the school.) The team has made it in the past six years to the DII National championship, as well as the semi-finals, and is relatively routinely a power in division II, so I do believe it would be worth creating a page separate from their athletics page. I have no experience creating pages, but thought maybe you would be interested in helping.

Ps, your input in all of the recent AfD pages has really helped me understand the process and policies better (as I clearly jumped the gun on 2016 Shepherd Rams football team,) so I wanted to express appreciation in that regard. Spf121188 (talk) 20:48, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

@Spf121188: Sure! :) I can help you create an article for the Shepherd Rams football team (I was surprised when you said they didn't already have one, considering all of the program's accomplishments). What would you like me to do? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:53, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Well, I’ve never created a page, or even a template for one, so I’m not 100% sure where to even start. But, your template for Lock Haven football I feel like would be a good start. I think I could be of help to find some independent, reliable sources for program information (given that I know a decent amount about the football program there,) but the technical side of creating pages is where I struggle still since it’s new to me. If you have any guidance or resources on how to begin the page creation process, I think I can surface some sources to support creation for the page. Let me know where to start. Thank you again for your willingness to help with this! :) Spf121188 (talk) 03:29, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@Spf121188: I created a draft article for the football team here, which we can work on. See if you can find which years they won the conference championship and add them in the section titled "championships" (I added instructions there). It would also help if you could write some in the history section and add some references about it. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:45, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes! This is great. Once I'm done with my work day I will be able to help fill in some blanks here. Thank you for helping me with this! I'll be in touch as I work through this. Spf121188 (talk) 19:53, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Good morning Beanie, sorry I didn't get to work on this yesterday, I had a busy work day, but I will make time this afternoon/evening to add to the page. I'll keep you updated, thanks again for helping with this! Spf121188 (talk) 13:02, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello again! I'm doing some work on the Shepherd football draft page, but I'm having trouble with how to go about writing the history of the program, so that's where I am currently, but I'll keep working on it and hopefully we can have a good draft soon. Just wanted to keep you updated. Thanks again for your help! Spf121188 (talk) 16:47, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello. I could write the program history if you prefer, I just would need a few sources post-1970s (I can find references for years before that on Newspapers.com) which talk about it. Also, see if you can find what they were classified as from 1966-1975. I see College Football Data Warehouse [1] list multiple classifications for the same years, which I do not think is possible. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:02, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

BeanieFan11, let me see what I can find and I'll get right back to you. Also, it looks like a bot took down the picture I added. I'm unfamiliar with rules surrounding that so I'll look into that also. Thanks! Spf121188 (talk) 17:15, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

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It seems like you've been creating a lot of articles for football players that fail speedy criteria a7 /

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Hyperwave11: The topics you nominated for speedy deletion easily meet GNG in my opinion (that's the only reason I created them) and I believe the nominations are ridiculous. Please take them to AFD if you believe they are non-notable. BeanieFan11 (talk

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Hyperwave11: Multiple of those do meet NCOLLATH! Could you revert those placements of speedy deletion? BeanieFan11 (talk

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general notability guideline, which, I believe each article you nominated (and nearly every other article I've ever created) meets. BeanieFan11 (talk

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Jack Kraynick, no notability in college football, or not present in article, never played professionally, and did no other notable things under another catagory.

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Newspapers.com. Wally Garard is the same. Cain Madden and Tiawan Mullen both meet NCOLLATH for being on the 2020 All-America team. BeanieFan11 (talk

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"Frank Gore Jr. easily meets GNG" mind elaborating?

What makes historical draft picks on their own notable?

Regarding Cain and Taiwan, I'll concede those do pass, I was unaware of exactly what the all-america team was, so had no reason to assume notability from it.

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Did you even do a google search for Frank Gore Jr.? Also, about Kraynick and Garard, I believe they have notability through articles you can find on newspapers.com, which is why I created them. And I have 11,000+ edits, and 480+ article creations, with none being deleted, so its safe to assume I have some understanding of wikipedia's policies on notability. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:31, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Gonna be honest, I looked into the guy, I stand by my assertion. Notability isn't genetic, and generating a bit of brief hype for being frank senior's kid doesn't do it.

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Hyperwave11: did you see this, or this, or this, or this, or this, or this, or this, or this, or this, or this, or this, or this, or this, or this, or this, or this, or any of the other articles found with a simple google search of "Frank Gore Jr"? BeanieFan11 (talk

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Sure did! Literally all they do is compare him to his dad. You linked a few that didn't but they weren't all that substantive, for example this one you linked [2]

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SIGCOV, the ones that do easily prove a pass of notability. Also, a search of him on Newspapers.com brings up many additional results. You can nominate him at AFD if you still believe he is non-notable. BeanieFan11 (talk

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I still might, I'm much more confident in the other two, I'm gonna wait for that article to fill out a bit more, still looks a bit empty for all the notability and sources you sent which is why I had zero inkling he was remotely notable.

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also, from what I'm reading, all the sources for wally seem to fall under 1e, but nothing else there passes gng, gridiron, or ncollath, leaving the rest to sorta be

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I feel like there's a case to be made as to whether the article should be structured to reflect that, or if that warrants the bio structure you chose, but I feel like that should be up to a third-party, we've both let our emotions cloud our judgement and probably aren't the best folk for it regardless of qualifications.

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Hey, I was thinking maybe you could make navboxes for the college football conferences coaches of the year (SEC,MAC...) I know a few have but most still don’t Bigmike2346 (talk) 14:42, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

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They played a single game and lost, how is this notable??? Notability not established with substantive sources, fails

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 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I see you made many AfDs for these players, which I an inclined to agree with you about (that being, without a name, how can we even try to determine notability). Would it not have made sense to have had a bundled discussion with them all together, given the vast number? If it then transpired any could be determined as notable or the names known, take them out. As it stands, they all seem to be in the same state with the same rationale. Just a thought. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:21, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

I guess I forgot that they could be bundled when I was nominating them. Is there any way to "merge" AFDs? Though I think the outcome would be the same either way. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:11, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

I am unsure of the process of merging an AfD once its created. Many of these (maybe all) perhaps would have been better suited being

prodded instead? A week without interaction would result in an expired prod outcome anyway, but maybe worth bearing in mind. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs}

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Maybe, but I had a feeling someone might de-prod them due to the SNG pass. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:47, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, just thought I'd say that rugby union and rugby league are different sports, and so rugby league players/staff/clubs/etc shouldn't be included in the rugby union AfD category. I appreciate it's a bit confusing and was likely a mistake from the thanks on the removal. Not sure there is a specific rugby league AfD category, so perhaps a message on the rugby league WikiProject might suffice given the number of AfD's. Many thanks. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 21:20, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

I left a notice on the project talk page. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:31, 26 December 2021 (UTC)