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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:51, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi I created 2023 Harding Bisons football team today. It still needs work adding sourcing to independent, reliable sources. Any help you care to offer would be appreciaed. Cbl62 (talk) 05:55, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• On a related point, I noticed the article you created in 2021 on the
  WP:INDEPENDENT. If you can find any SIGCOV, it needs to be added to the article. Absent such coverage, the article may be deleted.) Cbl62 (talk) 05:58, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  Many universities have entries from a century ago with their school yearbooks. It's two years old. It's fine. Hubdb39 (talk) 20:04, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  the 1926 season thread has been deleted already anyway Hubdb39 (talk) 20:07, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Well, not deleted... The reason for it being called "1926 Harding Bisons football team" is that the "coach" was a junior player, Clyde Matthews. They didn't have an actual hired coach, so he was the player-coach. Hubdb39 (talk) 02:15, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Congrats on your team advancing to the championship game. However, the fact that there are other deficient articles is no excuse. If SIGCOV from reliable independent sources cannot be found and added, 1926 Harding Bisons football team is likely to be sent to AfD and deleted. Cbl62 (talk) 02:32, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Love it! Hubdb39 (talk) 20:02, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

An article you recently created,

I just started it an hour ago. I'm still working on it. Hubdb39 (talk) 01:22, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Why? I had just started the article and someone came in saying "you didn't cite references." Duh, I was just starting, and then someone last night waited until I had finished the entire article, with about 4 or 5 references, and deleted it.

??? Hubdb39 (talk) 15:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hubdb39, articles in mainspace are expected to at a certain level of presentability and completion within an hour in order to avoid maintenance tagging or deletion. I can see a draft version of the article was created yesterday at Draft:Buck Arnold; you can use that page to work on for as long as you need, then publish it to mainspace when ready. Let me know if you have any questions. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 15:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

90% of what I wrote is gone on it! Where is it? Hubdb39 (talk) 15:35, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I need what I wrote back at least. Text, the schedule from 1930 I put up, etc.

This was a coach from the 1920's and 1930's. Same type of brief article on any coach from any program 100 years ago. It's historical, and it had cited references. Hubdb39 (talk) 15:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pinging Bbb23, the deleting administrator, here for your benefit. Bbb23, would you mind restoring the requested content to draft space for this user to work on? —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 15:37, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Why would they do that? I messaged the person back saying "I'm working on it. And there are cited references." They deleted it anyway

I've been contributing for about 3 or 4 years now... I have a minor in journalism, I don't publish garbage Hubdb39 (talk) 15:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The user has made such a mess of the article and draft post-deletion, I'm having trouble restoring it to draft space. Maybe find someone else who's willing to restore the draft. BTW, the user needs to get a grip. Their conduct is decidedly suboptimal.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've restored the draft. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 15:47, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Where is it located? Hubdb39 (talk) 15:53, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Buck Arnold. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 15:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Hubdb39 (talk) 16:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. JTtheOG (talk) 17:29, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've added some citations on top of the ones that were already there. It's newsworthy in that 1972 team was the very first conference championship for the entire history of the program, a program that actually won the national championship this past year. I certainly don't plan on doing new links to every year, although many college have that. Thanks again. Hubdb39 (talk) 09:59, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CNMall41 was:

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I would agree with the reasoning of the user who moved this to draft. It needs significant coverage which is not present in the draft. Fails

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Please respond at Talk:Clinton, Arkansas#Glenna Sue Kidd. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Clinton, Arkansas. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:50, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The person coming in attacking the proper historical inclusion and citing of a great women's baseball player is lecturing someone else on "assuming good faith."

The person attempting to delete the proper historical inclusion and citing of a great women's baseball player is lecturing someone else on "edit warring."

Shocking behavior by you Magnolia677. This is surreal. Hubdb39 (talk) 00:31, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your additions in this edit here, have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added

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With all due respect, I have no idea what you mean about "copyright" issues. Let me know what to put in quotations, and I will. I've already cited Arkansas Democrat-Gazette newspaper links. Also, Encyclopedia of Arkansas links, cited.

This all has to do with a person - Magnolia677 - on a vengeful tirade. He or she already referred to their location as "here", being in Clinton, Arkansas. So there is some kind of local bias from that "editor" on this addition of a great Clinton, Arkansas High School 1950 graduate that this editor hates and is attacking.

This is bizarre. I was even adding historical figure Opie Cates to the page when everything was all the sudden zapped. AND a historical citing of the Arkansas Peace Society during the Civil War. Deleted! ??? Wow Hubdb39 (talk) 01:42, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So the Arkansas Peace Society who opposed slavery in Clinton, Arkansas before the Civil War is not allowed in the historical section, because the "editor" who hates women baseball players got you to delete everything out of spite?

Really?? Hubdb39 (talk) 01:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Glenna Sue Kidd from Clinton, Arkansas was actually IN the movie "A League of Their Own", in a cameo appearance, and invited (and attended) the celebrations surrounding the filming of the movie. This was documented, part of the citing's that you deleted. Hubdb39 (talk) 02:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing.

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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Clinton, Arkansas, you may be blocked from editing. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"disruptive editing"???

Holy Moses, can someone please have this person Magnolia 677 stop his crusade? I've ADDED a great Clinton native who was a professional women's baseball player, and a person invited to the reunion of the movie A League of Their Own, as she had a cameo role in the movie. Also deleted by this Magnolia 677 was a historical reference to Clinton and Van Buren County natives (Clinton is the county seat) who were members of the anti-slavery Arkansas Peace Society before and during the Civil War.

"disruptive editing"??? Hubdb39 (talk) 17:25, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You are disrupting Wikipedia Magnolia 677. YOU are doing it and I've documented it the past few days, and I encourage the true editors and admins to read all of what's gone on. Hubdb39 (talk) 17:27, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Clinton, Arkansas, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zero additions to the Clinton, AR page have been without sources. Magnolia677 has said this countless times, and he/she is just making things up. It's almost comical at this point, but not funny.

Wiki, this person Magnolia677 has used the term "here" in reference to his or her location being Clinton, Arkansas, so there seems to be some local bias going on. He/she has declared war on historical additions to the page including a Clinton woman who played professional baseball and did a small cameo appearance in the Tom Hanks movie A League of Their Own; history about anti-slavery Clinton residents with the Arkansas Peace Society; history about Opie Cates, a big band leader. He/she deleted references to former NTSB chairman Jim Burnett...others. Hubdb39 (talk) 13:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I've looked at your talk page history on here. While people like me have a history of simply adding historical content and being good Wiki editors, you have a wide history, as numerous people have said on your talk page, of coming in and vandalizing people's work. Hubdb39 (talk) 13:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reading your talk page, I see you love to use the phrase "two editors agreed with me", as you did with me (except one of the "editors" is you, LOL, and the other editor ended up siding with the person you were arguing with, LOL)

Also, when you vandalize people's work, and then they rightly protest, you come with the accusation that they are "edit warring." You need to seek mental help. Hubdb39 (talk) 14:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop attacking other editors. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Daniel Case (talk) 20:45, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't attacked other editors. Content on the Clinton, Arkansas page has been attacked for the past week. Hubdb39 (talk) 23:40, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Telling someone they need mental help, in the manner that you did, is a personal attack. And as for your "vandalism" allegations, see here Daniel Case (talk) 04:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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