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Rebekah Marine draft

Hi again, I've done more work on my draft of Rebekah Marine, and I was wondering if you'd mind taking a look at it. I think I've done enough to establish notability (?) but the article is still a bit rough. Thanks again! ChristianCanCook (talk) 09:00, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

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Hey! we are working on that page. the new opening will be there in 4 minutes. Lots of disabled people editing so takes us longer :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cattos12 (talkcontribs) 12:19, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Cattos12 is this part of an organized editathon? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:29, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

YES — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cattos12 (talkcontribs) 12:31, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

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Nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject Newcomer and Historian of the Year awards now open

G'day all, the nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject newcomer and Historian of the Year are open, all editors are encouraged to nominate candidates for the awards before until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2020, after which voting will occur for 14 days. There is not much time left to nominate worthy recipients, so get to it! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Articulatory setting

Sir! Peter Roach having written in English Phonetics and Phonology that it is difficult to confirm these settings scientifically and etc, I do not understand why there is no information about lack of scientific proofs. I am a reader of EnWiki, and, to tell you the exact truth, I think it to be very important to describe all points of views on that. You having edited the article on that, I do not understand why you have not added this point. I believe you to think this conception to be doubtful, therefore there is a controversy. That's why it is evident that the afore-said article is not completely correct. The article being incomplete, I cannot transcribe it.

In a word, I pray you to lay down the conventional point of view in the following article. The phrase Non-native speakers typically find the basis of articulation one of the greatest challenges in acquiring a foreign language's pronunciation. Speaking with the basis of articulation of their own native language results in a foreign accent, even if the individual sounds of the target language are produced correctly. seems not to be conventional.

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Hi
Роман Сидоров (г. Смоленск) I'm afraid I don't understand much of what you have written here. It might help if you could provide me with a link to the relevant article, so that I might figure out the context. Alternatively you could raise your concerns at the article's talk page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk
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Hi Roger,

Please would you have a look at my sandbox article on disabled author Jordan Bones before I publish it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mixedcases123/sandbox

Many thanks Mixedcases123 (talk) 11:16, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Mixedcases123 I've done a review and left some advice to improve the draft. When you've improved it please resubmit it for another review. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:14, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

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Draft:Global Chess Festival

Hello, this is Katikov. I have resubmitted my draft on Global Chess Festival. Do you think it works now? Katikov (talk) 09:12, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

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Did you know nominations/Bahattin Hekimoğlu

Hi! Thank you for your comment at "Did you know nominations/Bahattin Hekimoğlu". As you know the old version of the phrase, I am sure you know the recent version also. Would you please add it? Thanks. CeeGee 06:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi again! Waiting for your reply. CeeGee 13:30, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
CeeGee Sorry, I do not know "the recent version" whatever that is supposed to mean. All I did was to point out a phrase written in bad English. It needs to be fixed by someone who has access to the source and can correctly translate it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:36, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Aha! you know that it is incorrect English, but you don't understand what it can mean. CeeGee 13:40, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
CeeGee Yes, we need to find someone who can help to fix the translation from Turkish. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:43, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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MEDMOS

Wrt this edit, can we find a compromise, and include the WP:WikiProject Disability/Style advice as a third item rather than the only one. The American Psychological Association: Style Guide: Disability guide has been linked to by MEDMOS for 14 years. IMO it is an even-handed guide for those writing medical texts, which obviously has overlap with MEDMOS scope. The National Center on Disability and Journalism: Disability Language Style Guide wasn't "cherry picked", as you put it, but carefully chosen. As "guidance for journalists as they cover people with disabilities" it has a wider, more lay, audience of writers in mind, and is therefore perhaps even more useful to someone who needs to mention something medical, in a non-medical article. In contrast, the WP:WikiProject Disability/Style advice is an advice essay written by two editors, one of whom left Wikipedia six years ago. The fact that a 180° flip in the nutshell was made by an IP nearly a year ago, and was only just reverted last night by WhatamIdoing, doesn't fill me with confidence that it is being closely watched and maintained.

I've read through the project advice, and the talk history about it on the project. I think it takes a complementary approach vs the two external guides linked. It assumes the reader is prepared to sit down for 15 minutes and read an essay and come away with some general advice. Which is great for that purpose. What it doesn't do, though, is answer questions for some busy editor who just wants to know how to refer to someone with cerebral palsy or with dwarfism or what the current thinking on deaf vs hard of hearing vs hearing impaired is. That's where the NCDJ guide is useful and kept up to date, though it no doubt has an American bias. It covers so many concerns, in an easily indexed format. While you originally hoped the project guide would mature and be adopted into MOS like MEDMOS was, I think we both know that there is zero chance of that happening.

Linking to external guides has the advantage of covering issues where it simply isn't worth our energy fighting over. MEDMOS, for example, refers to the International nonproprietary name as an authority on drug names. Let other, hopefully wise and well informed, people come to a consensus. Of course these external guides don't have authority but then even a MOS guideline is just a guide, not a rule.

Reading through the origin of the project guide, I noted you wrote in 2014 "Speaking for myself, I would very strongly reject any suggestion that my use of a wheelchair is part of who I am". Yet this morning you write of a shift in personal thinking and "The fact that I'm a wheelchair user is part of my identity". That's interesting and confirms that the language we use does affect how we think of ourselves and others, and vice versa. I note that the APA guide expresses no preference between "wheelchair user, person in a wheelchair", and both guides advise avoiding “confined to a wheelchair” or “wheelchair-bound”. Of course, not everyone who uses a wheelchair does to the same degree, so I guess that will also influence how much someone identifies with it.

Anyway, what do you think. Can we compromise on this? -- Colin°Talk 10:21, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Colin, OK, but let's try to include at least one more external style guide that is not American and one published by a major disability organization. That would give us a broader variety of viewpoints than just the academic/medical POV of APA and the journalistic approach of NCDJ.
On a more personal note: An easy way to alienate socially/politically aware disabled people is the white-coat authoritarian "dr knows best" tone of the medical model of disability aka "so-called experts telling us how to live our lives". So I hope you'll understand how having MEDMOS discuss disability outside of a strictly medical context is a bit "itchy" in itself. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:08, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
In your project discussion that started the guide, you linked to Talking about Disability –A Style Guide (by Buckinghamshire Disability Service in the UK). That very much takes a social model approach, though it isn't exactly a "major disability organisation". Any other suggestion? Perhaps you have a view that MEDMOS is written by "doctors who know best"? I have no greater medical qualification than a Scouts First Aid Badge, and know several other similarly unqualified editors have been active at WP:MED for years. -- Colin°Talk 14:46, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

I've added the guides back. @EEng: who tweaked the formatting a bit, and who liked the NCDJ guide. These guides offer far more than just different views on the whole "people-first" debate. There's an awful lot more to writing about disability and medical conditions than that. And they cover more examples than MEDMOS could reasonably include. I think the three external guides that are linked take three different approaches (medical professional, journalism, social model). For example, the NCDJ guide says "people with disabilities" whereas the BUDS guide says "disabled people", and I've reflected that in how the guides are mentioned. I've also mentioned and linked to the medical/social model of disability articles. -- Colin°Talk 09:41, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Colin Great! I think it's good now. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:56, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

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Did you ever find an answer to this question which I just now saw? I have no idea how to answer.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Vchimpanzee, no I didn't find a satisfactory solution. I created and then manually populated the category by looking at about 100 likely articles and tagging the ones that matched. We really need better tools for managing categories, but I'm not a coder by any stretch of the imagination. Thanks for resurrecting the topic. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 23:02, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

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Disability

I think that the disability flag should be present in other disability-related articles. English wikipedia is not just for English speaking countries. English Wikipedia is used universally. And if you read the article about the flag, that flag was not only approved by the Latin American countries, but also approved at the UN headquarters in Europe! Eliminating the flag solely on the grounds that it is little known is a totally invalid argument since the vast majority of Wikipedia is unaware of many things. wikipedia not only serves to collect information but for people to discover new and interesting concepts that have been recognized internationally. It is not a promotion because it is not my own creation or that of someone close to me. all the places I put it was in places related to the flag. nothing more. To put the flag of the rights of people with disabilities in the article of the movement of the rights of the disability is not correct? it does not make any sense, please stop sabotaging and allow to place it somewhere related to the flag if it were the case ... the creation of the article was applauded in the official wikipedia group on telegram. you cannot make this decision individually with a simple four sentence text. at least it must be present in the article of the movement of the rights of persons with disabilities and the international day of persons with disabilities because it is closely related to the flag. If you do not want it to be present in the main article on disability among other articles, I can respect it and I will accept it because I think you are right, but I think it is recommended that there be a middle ground and not individually decide to delete EVERYTHING. And as you have already seen, I am not the only one who thinks so, there are people who have also tried to reverse their deletions. I think this is a fair deal, it is not good that we continue with this absurd war. I will place the flag in the places where I have told you to fulfill the deal. I suppose that if you delete it again (something that I advise against without prior notice and with solid arguments in the debate of the article), it will mean that you do not agree with the treatment that I have suggested to avoid further conflicts. keep in mind that there are people who think it is a good idea to implement it. let's be fair NaviNews (talk) 22:12, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

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It's not my draft, the actual author is D1ofBerks. BTW I disagree with the rejection by the last reviewer, there's no way the draft is "contrary to the purpose of WP". Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:17, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dodger67 You name was flagged up on my Talk Page , such are the ways of Wikipedia. Thank you for your positive comment regarding my article. However, in order to make some progress, I gave up on the original article and added a simplified version to the existing article Direction finding. Thank you once again. D1ofBerks (talk) 16:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

D1ofBerks, ok so deletion can go ahead. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

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Get well soon!

I saw this edit - wishing you a speedy recovery! Greenman (talk) 10:46, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

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Mahmut Bozteke

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Mahmut Bozteke has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

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Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:54, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Twofingered Typist, Thanks, it looks good. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:59, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

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Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello Dodger67:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
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According to: https://apastyle.apa.org/style-grammar-guidelines/bias-free-language/racial-ethnic-minorities#:~:text=Racial%20and%20ethnic%20groups%20are,Hispanic%2C”%20and%20so%20on.

"Spelling and capitalization of racial and ethnic terms Racial and ethnic groups are designated by proper nouns and are capitalized. Therefore, use “Black” and “White” instead of “black” and “white” (do not use colors to refer to other human groups; doing so is considered pejorative). Likewise, capitalize terms such as “Native American,” “Hispanic,” and so on. Capitalize “Indigenous” and “Aboriginal” whenever they are used. Capitalize “Indigenous People” or “Aboriginal People” when referring to a specific group (e.g., the Indigenous Peoples of Canada), but use lowercase for “people” when describing persons who are Indigenous or Aboriginal (e.g., “the authors were all Indigenous people but belonged to different nations”)."

I have undone your revisions.

Draft: Servants of Christ the King

To Dodger67, thank you very much for looking at this and also for consulting further. I hope the fact that Canterbury Cathedral have acknowledged the movement by commissioning a permanent memorial might count in the balance - those involved in the commissioning were not directly part of SCK I believe (though there were historical links); if that helps. Many thanks for your considerationJacantha (talk) 08:43, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Jacantha, let's wait a bit to see if anyone at WikiProject Anglicanism might come up with something useful. The subject is actually way outside of my comfort zone, so I'm not able to add any significant content. However, I did find this:
Parker, Olive (October 1967). "The Servants of Christ the King". Contact. 21 (1): 13–17. .
Roger (Dodger67) (talk) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:28, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Really appreciate this link ! thank you Dodger67 and again, your taking it up ..of course, wait for any developments Jacantha (talk) 09:14, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Robits

Is it possible that you can either it Franco tradisionele disse (talk) 16:42, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Franco tradisionele disse, jammer ek verstaan nie wat jy hier bedoel nie. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:46, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Kan jy dit redigeer Franco tradisionele disse (talk) 17:33, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Franco tradisionele disse, (Back to English for the TPSs benefit). What you could do is first create articles about the dishes you're interested in. As one of the others said, dishes mentioned on the cuisine article should really have their own articles. I'd be happy to help edit your drafts, even though it's not a topic area I'm fully comfortable with, I am quite clued up about the standards and style of Wikipedia. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Franco tradisionele disse (talk) 17:54, 16 July 2021 (UTC)