User talk:Faran315

• You removed cited content and replaced it with unsourced content. Please see wp:biographies of living persons and wp:verifiability. Lots of info in the welcome section above on how to do this. Adakiko (talk) 12:35, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am improving language and not changing any links and/or the data associated.

Wikipedia can see that a better written english langauge is good for every consumer of the content.

The previous writing is extremely poor writing that I am fixing.

No historic content is modified. Faran 12:38, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Your content does not cite

wp:reliable sources. See this which shows the citation errors. There are six errors. That doesn't include the uncited content. Adakiko (talk) 12:43, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply

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duly noted. I will fix this problem Faran 12:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Also, you are wp:edit warring. Please read. Adakiko (talk) 12:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My apology for being brusque with you and for not clearly answering your questions.

Content added to a

• The Early life and education before your edits has nine citations: [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], and [17]. Afterwards, the Early life and education section here had zero citations.
  
• The Early political career had 13 before and one after.
• Chief Minister of Punjab section went from nine citations to zero.

Please see referencing for beginners on how to add a citation. It discusses a tool for helping to format a citation.
If you have questions, you can leave a question here or ask at the Teahouse where there are experts who will provide assistance. I am not always online, so you may get an answer faster at the Teahouse. I restored your last edit to Nawaz Sharif as the body appears to support most of your changes.
I would strongly encourage you to have a discussion with the person(s) undoing your edits before restoring the same content. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 08:46, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your explanation, however I would disagree with your assessment of the situation.

The writing for all the material is clearly poor and in bad taste. The references used previously were broken and/or outdated.

If you look at the changes I made, I did not remove a single detail or piece of history related to the former Prime Minister.

The content written decades ago, and in poor taste and poor English language deserves to be updated. I strongly believe that all content should be historically accurate and verifiable. I did not make a single change to the entire page, that was not on that page already.

You removed my edit of the PM's history of joining the political parties. In the little preview box it says, there is no date available for when he joined the PML. In his early life column it says, he joined it in 1976 which is completely true.

In his early life section it says he was studying in the early 1980s, and then it says he was the finance minister in early 1980s.

You need to learn the history and then blame someone who is trying to write in a professional manner. The previous writing is clearly written by a person with an agenda rather than someone writing an historic account of facts.

I did try to explain my position but you kept on repeating the same argument.

Once again, thanks for your apology.

Good Day. Faran 09:36, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

You removed the two citations following Nawaz was born in Lahore, Punjab, on 25 December 1949.^[1][2] How are they outdated? There was no change to his birth date nor location. Both links still work. Why did you remove them? You left everything before those citations: see here. Similar issues with the rest of your edits. The writing may have been poor, but it met verifiability. Adakiko (talk) 09:54, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding dead links, please see

templates such as {{cite web}} and {{cite news}} do have features for adding a link to the Wayback Machine or other archive. See archiving a source. Adakiko (talk) 10:05, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply

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Moving Forward

I am writing to thank all the users that provided guidance and information to make edits within the wikipedia platform. I am open for discussion and hopefully can work with expert contributors. Faran 05:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Chenab Club Faisalabad (March 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Johannes Maximilian were:

Please write a proper article with a reasonable structure, and decent, reliable secondary sources. Best regards, --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 08:43, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Thanks for your feedback.

The information posted is already available on the following pages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faisalabad#Recreation

https://www.thechenab.club/fb-outlets/

https://www.google.com/maps/place/(The+Chenab+Club+(G+%D8%AF%DB%8C+%DA%86%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%A8+%DA%A9%D9%84%D8%A8+(%D8%AC%DB%8C)%E2%80%AD/@31.4239364,73.086367,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x39226820619cfde1:0xe422d5b0d0d044d8!8m2!3d31.4239364!4d73.088561!16zL20vMGZmcGI3

http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=31.424598&lon=73.088930&z=16&m=w&search=the%20chenab%20club

Please advise what else you would like to see to be added into the article.

Kind regards Faran 09:53, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

This submission appears to

independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability

of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

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Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 08:43, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Chenab Club Faisalabad (March 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Bonadea were:

This submission appears to

independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability

of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

No change since previous decline, other than the addition of multiple section headings without any content. The entire draft needs to be fixed per the previous reviewer's comments.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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bonadea contributions talk 10:08, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Faran315! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! bonadea contributions talk 10:08, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:The Chenab Club Faisalabad

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:The Chenab Club Faisalabad. Thanks! bonadea contributions talk 10:46, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Bonadea,

I read your comments. It is a social club and there is not much controversy attached to it. Could you please elaborate which aspects would you like changed and/or removed?

Kind regards Faran 10:49, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Chenab Club Faisalabad Logo 2022.jpeg

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Your submission at Articles for creation: The Chenab Club Faisalabad (March 19)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Bonadea were:

This submission is not adequately supported by

Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article

. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth
  (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent
  of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Nothing has been done to the sourcing. A previous afc comment gave specific information about the kind of source that's needed, and the kinds that cannot be used. In fact, a link to Wikipedia was added as a source, which is weird since the afc comment said "no wiki is a reliable source".

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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bonadea contributions talk 11:33, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Chenab Club Faisalabad (March 24)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This submission is not adequately supported by

Referencing for beginners and Citing sources

.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Greenman (talk) 08:26, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Chenab Club Faisalabad (March 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This submission is not adequately supported by

Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article

. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

• in-depth
  (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
• reliable
• secondary
• strictly independent
  of the subject
  

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:The Chenab Club Faisalabad and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:30, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:The Chenab Club Faisalabad

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:The Chenab Club Faisalabad. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 09:48, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Rickshaw in Pakistan.jpg

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Your draft article, Draft:The Chenab Club Faisalabad

Hello, Faran315. It has been over six months since you last edited the

Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "The Chenab Club Faisalabad

".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia

mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion

. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 14:14, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]