User talk:Fetchcomms/Archive 13
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Next WP:USPP assessment
Hi Fetchcomms/Archive 13! Since Amy Roth's out on maternity leave, I'm pushing out the next round of assessments she needs. This time, we're comparing your assessment to readers' assessments. And instead of us assigning you articles, we're letting you pick! The full list of topics is on a subpage of the Assessment tab on our WikiProject. Please choose 10 of the articles to assess. Use the link in the section title to go to the appropriate version of the article.
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A Quick Look?
Hi Fetchcomms, I saw that you posted on my talk page welcoming me to the Public Policy Initiative for my Culture and Politics Course. I've put my article live and was wondering if you could give me feedback (on either my talk page or on the discussion page of the article). My article is on Weir High School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weir_High_School). Thanks in advance Wvhoya (talk) 23:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
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What is wrong with this code Hit edit to see the code. Inka888ContribsTalk 03:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- You have a pre tag in there for no reason. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 03:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Reorder the tags (and your i tag is wasting characters; use two apostrophes). Plus, big tags are annoying. So,
<span style="color:00ff00">[[User:Inka 888|<big>''I''</big>n<big>''k''</big>a]]</span><sup>[[User talk:Inka 888|<span style="color:black;">'''''8'''8'''8'''''</span>]]</sup>
- /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:24, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Font tags are evil. Use span instead. Like so:
<span style="color:#00ff00">[[User:Inka 888|<big>''I''</big>n<big>''k''</big>a]]</span><sup>[[User talk:Inka 888|<span style="color:black;">'''''8'''8'''8'''''</span>]]</sup>
talk to me04:59, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Women's literary salons and societies in the Arab World
DYK nomination of American democracy promotion in the Middle East and North Africa
I didn't see anything in the article about the big plans to update the site, so I summarized some points made in an article I happened to see online.
I'm curious as to why, if your change from "MySpace" to "Myspace" that I saw in the pink notice was the result of seeing another article, why didn't you add that information? Because I don't feel completely confident I did it right.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:45, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean—this says they dropped the capital "S", but I didn't have time to add any other information about the new update. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Okay. Well, I did. I guess we'll know soon if I did it right.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:52, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Quick note
I fixed my TP header issue, per your request and suggestions :o) Redthoreau -- (talk) 06:43, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for State Security Law
State Security Law, which you recently nominated. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
DYK nomination of Alfred C. Sikes
DYK for Seelbach Hotel
Louisville, Kentucky, was frequented by Al Capone, who is said to have once avoided police by escaping through secret tunnels in the hotel? If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Xpjohn
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Seems to be
Update: Would appreciate your attention, at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cmmmm. -- Cirt (talk) 01:30, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for De-Ba'athification
On 7 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article De-Ba'athification, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that the controversial Iraq De-Ba'athification policy banned anyone affiliated with the Ba'ath Party from working in the public sector? If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Your assistance please
You closed Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ashley_Kirilow as delete on August 20th, 2010.
I started User:Geo Swan/Ashley Kirilow two days later, on August 22nd, 2010.
(Woah. I didn't mean to leave such a long note. If you don't think you have the patience to read the whole thing, could you skip to the last question?)
I can see the edit summary I used when I started it says "complicated". That was careless of me. I definitely should not have used an edit summary like that, without leaving an explanation in User talk:Geo Swan/Ashley Kirilow.
My recollection was that someone else started the article, and that it was a weak article at that point. I am pretty sure I added references and made other improvements to the article, while the article was under discussion. FWIW I don't think those expressing delete opinions appreciated:
- what a big story this was, in Canada;
- that the story received world-wide coverage, even in the non-English press;
- that because Kirilow had tried to organize as much public scrutiny as possible, when she was arranging fund-raising events on her own behalf, means that she should be considered a public person, not a private person, and so the protections we built into WP:BLP, to protect private persons do not apply to her;
- that Kirilow's case was then, and continues to be, mentioned in the context of how her fraud effected the fund-raising efforts of legitimate cancer sufferers.
I think the reason I put User:Geo Swan/Ashley Kirilow in user-space is that I was multi-tasking, that I was working on adding new references to the main-space version of Ashley Kirilow, and doing some other activities. I think when I was finally able to return to save my revisions to the main-space version, the system advised me that it had been deleted.
If that is what I did then I think that could be a problem, unless my drafts had already rewritten the article to the extent that none of the earlier contributor's intellectual contributions remained.
You can see I have returned to the user-space page to add more material. I have returned several times. Unfortunately I don't have time to do more work on the article in November.
So, I have a couple of questions for you:
- Am I correct that, as the closing administrator, if you thought that the concerns raised in the {{afd}} no longer applied, you have the authority to OK a main space article on Kirilow?
- Am I correct that, as the closing administrator, if you thought that a draft had been prepared that adequately addressed the concerns raised in the {{afd}}, you would have the authority to OK a main space article on Kirilow?
- If this is the case, would you have the time to give suggestions as to what you would require to feel satisfied that the concerns expressed in the {{afd}} had been adequately addressed?
- If this is the case, would you have the time to give suggestions as to what you would require to feel satisfied that the concerns expressed in the {{
- Do you think the revision history of WP:NOTWEBHOST? No one, but other wikipedia contributors, who are actually looking for material on Kirilow will find my notes.
- Similarly, do you think the revision history of WP:FAKEARTICLEuntil very recently. Now that I am aware of it I think it was drafted before we started to expect userspace drafts to be protected by __NOINDEX__.
- You may tell me that even though I have shown continuing work on the draft it is about to overstay its tenancy in user-space.
- If you don't think it has overstayed, how seriously do you think I should be concerned that the remaining intellectual content of the original contributors is not being acknowledged?
- Do you think that User:Geo Swan/Ashley Kirilow is sufficiently different that I don't need to be concerned over honoring the rights of the original contributors to have their content acknowledged?
- If an improved draft is approved for inclusion in article space do you think it would be sufficient to graft on the revision history, pre-deletion, at that time?
- I believe that administrators have the tools to graft the revision histories of two separate pages together. But I don't know how difficult that is, or whether most administrators know how to do this. If you yourself know how to do this, and you don't think my work in user-space is stale-dated, would you consider grafting on the pre-deletion revision history of Ashley Kirilow to User:Geo Swan/Ashley Kirilow?
Thanks for your time. Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 17:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
- OK, I'm going to try to answer these as best I can, although I think some of it is IAR-y:
- I think any admin could do that (or rather, you could move it into mainspace, and any admin could decline a {{db-repost}} on it if the content was not substantially similar to the deleted copy). A new AfD would then be needed if someone wanted to do that.
- Same as above.
- I think the main concern in the AfD was that the event was more notable than the actual person, so the article should be focused around the scam itself, not just Kirilow. If you shifted the article more toward the scam and titled it about the event, it would pass (IMO) BLP1E. Obviously, a lot of Kirilow info will still be present because, well, she was the scammer, but that's OK.
- Seems fine.
- Also fine. FAKEARTICLE is about drafts that lay around without being touched for around six months or more.
- Doesn't seem overstayed to me. The content seems different enough, and I can easily combine the page histories. If you want to move it to mainspace, though, I'd still suggest making the article more on the scam to avoid another BLP1E-based AfD from someone.
- I think any admin could do that (or rather, you could move it into mainspace, and any admin could decline a {{
- If you want me to do graft the old revisions (I doubt it would hurt, though I don't think it's strictly necessary), just ask. Thanks, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for your time. Your opinion that six months is rough yardstick for when ) 02:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- FYI, Wikipedia_talk:User_pages#Set_time_threshold_for_deletion_of_userspace_drafts_as_FAKEARTICLES.3F. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:30, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for comments. I am sorry I missed your heads-up over Wikipedia_talk:User_pages#Set_time_threshold_for_deletion_of_userspace_drafts_as_FAKEARTICLES.3F. I think I really need to take a close look at that disccussion.
I am going to cite your six months suggestion at a discussion at User talk:Cunard#Myriads of MFDs .... Thanks again! Geo Swan (talk) 17:25, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for comments. I am sorry I missed your heads-up over Wikipedia_talk:User_pages#Set_time_threshold_for_deletion_of_userspace_drafts_as_FAKEARTICLES.3F. I think I really need to take a close look at that disccussion.
DYK for Obesity in the Middle East and North Africa
On 7 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Obesity in the Middle East and North Africa, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that 30% of the population in the Arab world is classified as overweight or obese, including 80% of adult women in Kuwait? If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Mormon edits
I do not think that this unbalances the portals. I think this are legitimate edits.
- Fetchcomms, would appreciate your input, at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cmmmm. -- Cirt (talk) 11:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Consulate General of France in Jerusalem
Consulate General of France in Jerusalem established official political ties with the Palestinian government after Yasser Arafat moved to Gaza City in 1994? If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
I admit that my edits are wrong
I admit that my edits are wrong, please give me the chance to be a good editor.
- The sock should refrain from socking as with ) 13:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Xpjohn, you're simply avoiding questions now. Are you the same user as Cmmmm and/or Clearcrash1? /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 13:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Does it matter? New users don't simply appear and start disrupting something as obscure as portals right off the bat. My interpretation of policy says that if it's a sock, it doesn't matter if you know or can clearly identify who the master is or not, it's still blockable as a sock (using the all powerful rubber duck of common sense.) Talk15:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- Does it matter? New users don't simply appear and start disrupting something as obscure as portals right off the bat. My interpretation of policy says that if it's a sock, it doesn't matter if you know or can clearly identify who the master is or not, it's still blockable as a sock (using the all powerful rubber duck of common sense.)
- Xpjohn, you're simply avoiding questions now. Are you the same user as Cmmmm and/or Clearcrash1? /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 13:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for Women's literary salons and societies in the Arab World
literary salon? If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
DYK for Alfred C. Sikes
nominate ) 06:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
DYK for National Democratic Party (Egypt)
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