User talk:Fetchcomms/Archive 12

How do you make a template similar to the one on my user page? Inka^{888Come yell at me!} 01:28, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

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THENEWMONO

20:36, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

It's official

You're better then me :| I have to go learn new div commands to catch up =) ResMar 03:15, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Lol. Where did I excel? :P /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 03:17, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

In obsessively perfecting your userpage(s) to the point of insanity. Btw, Roux/Mono borrowed your round circle concept. ResMar 00:25, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Heh, I now have to update my Twitter design :|. Yeah, I noticed Roux's design, which is an interesting use of circles that I never considered. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:29, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Man...how many of those do you have? See, now you're compelling me to drop Signpost duty and writing Axial Seamount just to script something up :L ResMar 02:08, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm writing too much stuff now. I have a Windows Phone 7 draft and a Firefox-only iPhone 4 to work on later, too. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what to say I'm utterly speechless. The iPhone one really takes the cake and runs with it. ResMar 02:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

...But of course, your tactics will not succeed. I can't think of anything right now to do anyway, so back to Wikipedia for me! ^^ ResMar 02:36, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

MO

Thanks for being hard on me. Sometimes a slap in the face is just what I need.

		The Show Me Award
		Thanks for being so hard on me. You really "Show me" how to do it. :) --Talktome(Intelati) 04:35, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

--Talktome^(Intelati) 04:35, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Hehe. See email. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 22:14, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Jim Savarino (musician)

Hello, Fetchcomms. You have new messages at Chzz's talk page.
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 Chzz  ►  04:50, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Setlock

Ok, so I'm no longer the first to jump on the log at 0:00GMT but at least I beat you to the relists today :) However, when closing this one you forgot to remove the {{rescue}} tag. When closing an AFD you should check to article to see if there is a rescue tag that needs to be removed as well as making sure the script removed the AFD tag, it doesn't always do it.

On the subject of closing a little early, there have been several AN and DELPRO threads about this issue so when you do the midnight "log jump", only close the "slam-dunkers". Let the "coin flippers" and the "1 voters" tick out the full 168. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:27, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Yesterday, I had nothing to do, so I looked at the AfD list (and then I saw I was the only one closing them and thought I had jumped a day early! :P). I'll try to remember to check the tags and stuff, although I always end up deleting more than keeping them, so I forget. Today, I think I only bothered to close the obvious ones, so I'll keep that last bit in mind as well. Thanks for the heads-up! /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:32, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

The opposite is true for me. As you know, until recently I could only close "keep" so I learned to check for these things. Another thing that can cross you up is that if an article is moved during the AFD period, then not only do you need to remove the AFD tag manually, you also have to move the oldafdfull tag from the old talk page to the new one because the Zman script doesn't follow redirects. Another thing to check for is this. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:41, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Yep, I've see both of those happen with the script. Annoying, but manually fixing things ensures more accuracy, I suppose. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

AfC

Hello Fetchcomms, may you please take a look at my first AfC review here and make sure I didn't miss anything? Thank you, Airplaneman ✈ 00:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I already did :) The template has some other parameters, which usually would appear when a user submits an article correctly, but as there was no tag on it originally, you don't need to worry because a bot will fix everything sooner or later. There's a script if you want to help out regularly (which you should!) so have fun! /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:56, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

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THENEWMONO

00:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Happy 10/10/10

Double Ten Day

is, really, unrelated—but we don't appear to have a cool pic for this one

I suppose I should've timed this message at 10:10:10 too, but

frankly

, I can't be arsed. You know how it is.

Did you know... that

tenten in Japaense writing are a little wiggly thing

, a bit like a quotation-mark, which makes e.g. "ka" (か) into "ga" (が) or "fu" (ふ) into "bu" (ぶ) ?

So, take time out to have a bit of a giggle.

All the best, and

10-10 'till we do it again.  Chzz  ► 

No. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 14:20, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

I should have never made that mistake because I have used Huggle only for almost a month.

1: When did you become an administrator?

2: Do you know any semi-protected articles that are prone to vandalisim because I need something to do on here?

Thanks Pretend that a smilie face is here because I don't know how to make one --Thebirdlover (talk) 00:56, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

1. July.
2. Semi'd articles don't get much vandalism. If you're bored, see
   this page, this page, or write an article. /ƒETCHCOMMS/
   12:56, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I didn't really want to write anything but I wasn't able to get it to just be the awards. --Thebirdlover (talk) 01:16, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Please don't put this much stuff on my page at once.

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar style="border-top: 1px solid gray;" Thebirdlover (talk) 01:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC) The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" Thebirdlover (talk) 01:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC) The Barnstar of Diligence style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" Thebirdlover (talk) 01:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC) The Tireless Contributor Barnstar style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" Thebirdlover (talk) 01:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC) Civility Award style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" Thebirdlover (talk) 01:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC) The Guidance Barnstar style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" Thebirdlover (talk) 01:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC) The Barnstar of Integrity style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" Thebirdlover (talk) 01:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC) The Excellent User Page Award style="vertical-align: top; border-top: 1px solid gray;" Thebirdlover (talk) 01:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

--Thebirdlover (talk) 01:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I would prefer not to accept these unless you can point out a specific reason behind each one. Barnstars shouldn't be dished out by the handful, they should be given on an appropriate occasion. If you want to give me a star, please tell me why. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 12:53, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit wars on both pages on the same thing, by the same IP's. Semi protect is needed, after that I will take care of what needs to be there. Thankyou. Tofutwitch11 ^(TALK) 01:14, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

The correct place is

WP:RFPP. I don't have time to examine the situation, but I noticed that you haven't taken care of telling the IPs to use a talk page in order to discuss changes. /ƒETCHCOMMS/

01:18, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I have made posts on their talk pages, this will not be solved unless they are not involved....we'll tryo

WP:RFPP. Sorry.Tofutwitch11 ^(TALK)

01:22, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Fetchcomms, thanks for contributing to article assessment in WP:USPP. Your continued involvement would be very appreciated. There is a second assessment request posted. There will be weekly updates about the research for this project posted here, look for the first one tomorrow. The next assessment request will come in early November. There is a lot of expertise and discussion about article quality happening in the project, so if you have any thoughts on the metric, or any ideas keeping project research exciting please let me know. ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 01:33, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Please block It's Now or Never (talk · contribs) (liked the name haha)... --Diego Grez (talk) 01:45, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Based on global contribs, you should have a steward block him globally and delete that all that new Hebe Camargo spam. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:07, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

 Doing... Tagged some for deletion. --Diego Grez (talk) 02:09, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

 Done Jyothis (talk · contribs) locked the account. Cheers, --Diego Grez (talk) 02:16, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 03:13, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

This looked like a "delete" to you and at first glance it looked like a "delete" to me. Imagine my surprise when this AFD was used as a question in a recent RFA and the candidate said he'd keep it. Taking another look at it, it looks like the keepers were making a decent case. Maybe that's why Cirt relisted it a second time.

When an admin re-relists what looks like a slam dunk "keep" or "delete" it gives me pause. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 04:21, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

The relist was done in response to the sources mentioned, but I don't think it's completely correct to discard the opinions of the delete commenters. I'm assuming that they had searched, and found some of the links presented, but didn't consider that enough for notability. Actually, I'm not sure why I didn't close as no consensus right now (although I think Cirt relisted it again because he reversed his earlier delete decision after request). If you think it would be appropriate, I'll go ahead and undelete the article and relist it again or something that would be faster than DR (just as Courcelles and Cirt did). /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 16:58, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Font tags are evil. But that's not prohibited, so the issue is, I believe, a misplaced sup tag. I think I have fixed it; see above. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 20:57, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

It still says it's invalid. Is the code too long? --Inka^{888Come yell at me!} 21:38, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

It's under 255, so it should be fine. Try it now, you forgot to close a tt tag, too. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 21:41, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. --Inka888^ContribsTalk 21:45, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I put "helpme" on a sandbox page as I wanted to see how editors are able to find that page when "helpme" is added (the answer is that it puts one into a category). Sorry, I should have pointed out on the page that it was a test edit. ScottyBerg (talk) 01:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem. You can always look at the template's base code, too. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:57, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I tried to do something approximating that, but couldn't find the right page. ScottyBerg (talk) 02:04, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello, your nomination of Ike Robin at DYK was reviewed and comments provided. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:35, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

I opened a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know about this nomination.--NortyNort (Holla) 03:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that, Fetchcomms! Hopefully it'll be sorted.  Chzz  ►  06:39, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, from some other articles that I have watchlisted I saw that you removed the links to INRA, because is had been speedily deleted as spam. INRA is a rather big research agency here in France and absolutely notable. I never saw that article, I think, and I don't doubt that it was overly promotional, but perhaps you can userfy it to my user space? I'd like to see whether I can perhaps make something useful out of it and it might be easier to pare this one down than to start from scratch (or course, sometimes the latter just is better). Thanks! --Crusio (talk) 08:23, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I think you may be better off starting from scratch; the article contains mainly copyvios from several different pages on the INRA site, which is probably why it read so spammy. I can't restore copyvios onwiki, but I can email you the contents if you want. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 12:51, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

• I see, OK. No, don't bother then, I can find the INRA pages myself. :-) Thanks! --Crusio (talk) 13:23, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

User Rizzoli Isles, formerly Langston Bonasera - was reported and repeatedly counseled about doing this. After about 6 weeks, he has uploaded another image, and after it was tagged & removed, simply uploaded it again. You had left a message he would be blocked on both accounts for doing this if he did it again. Would you please check on this? Thank you. Trista (cannot log in at work) 24.176.191.234 (talk) 18:19, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi. You're looking for Fences and windows (talk · contribs), who left him that warning, not me. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 20:40, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Apologies for that - I clicked from the Admin list, and was one line off. Problem was resolved anyway. Sorry for taking up your time while you tried to figure out what the heck I wanted from you. Cheers! Trista 24.176.191.234 (talk) 22:37, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to comment on your deletion of the Lucy Mangan article.

This article was listed for deletion in AFD in bad faith by an administrator who had a personal beef with me over a comment I made on an article talk page that was directed at his recent edits on the page and decided to plaster it with boxes, stalk my page for any further comments and so on.

I believe This Wikipedia admin User:Toddst1 is violating WP:GAME (by following the rules to their advantage when they feel like it) and WP:ADMIN (by personally involving themselves e.g. making AFD's out of spite (as already suggested) and blocking me because I disagreed with their behaviour) and WP:HA by Wikihounding. For example, despite it being very early in the morning, this administrator made a knee-jerk reaction when I posted something on my userspace User Talk:Badanagram disagreeing with his tactics. The fact that this admin did this within minutes of my response shows that this admin was actively toting for a reason to block me whilst giving the impression to others that this was passive.

I know that I probably cannot ask for this article to be put back - but I would like someone to review the Admins recent decisions made and also make the admin community aware of his over-the-top behaviour in relation to an isolated incident that only required a deletion of the comment in this instance. Instead this admin decided that I had sockpuppets, I had created my IP address to be abusive to him (one comment) and making AFD listings on one of my articles, blocking my IP, making boxes linking ALL my identities DESPITE my change of name request being accepted for very good reason then changing his reasons for the block when he realised it was too weak - to add insult to injury the admin bullied me in to accepting some kind of deal on my userpage as if he was some kind of LAPD cop!

This admin is completely over the top in exercising his admin tools and I do not beleive he is fit to hold these tools if he continues to abuse them in this manner. Behaviour like this will make most casual editors like myself beleive that Wikipedia is nothing more than a meritocracy Badanagram (talk) 18:51, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Put new messages at the bottom of my talk page. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 20:37, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I think you should forget about this issue and move on. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 20:43, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that - I think it looks fine with the field used, and without. :) (that was one of the only combinations I didn't try, lol!) Is there a general place to go for template fixing help? --Malkinann (talk) 21:44, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem. For help, you can try

WP:VPT, or find a complex template, look in the history, and see what user seems to understand what he/she is doing :) /ƒETCHCOMMS/

21:55, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

See now, I did manage to do that for the speaker and position entries (look and copy), but couldn't manage it for jurisdiction... Ah well. Next time I'll know to go to wikiproject templates or the technical village pump. Thanks again. :) --Malkinann (talk) 22:10, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

On 17 October 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ike Robin, which you recently nominated. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

I found you have deleted the page created by me for K.V.Dominic. He is a reputed living writer of India English Writing. He has published nine books, innumerable articles, both critical and creative. He is also the chief editor of a journal IJPCL ( Indian Journal of Post Colonial Literature). I think such personality should possess a calibre to enlist in Wikipedia. If the article on him needs any more addition to cope with Wikipedian Category, it should be tagged with a comment. But I don't think deletion is theonly way to clean up any article. I hope you should again post it with any suggestive comment tag for clean up. Thanks for your effort for Wiipedia.Kanu786 (talk) 01:07, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I deleted the page because this discussion unanimously resulted in a consensus to delete it. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:11, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Spoons_%28Gobots%29.

This is the first time I have seen a closer double close himself :) --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:51, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

That was entertaining, watching you try and figure out exactly what you were linking to. :) Not to be mean, or anything. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 01:57, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

The AFD in question was transcluded twice, Fetch closed it twice and I pasted the link in twice. Lather, rinse, repeat. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

:) ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 02:01, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:05, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Oopsies. I went through all those Gobots ones sorta fast because they all had the same comments :P /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:09, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I wanted to point out that I added some references to the article

It appears that you added the refs before several other redirect !votes were given at the AfD (I wouldn't say "most" of them occurred before you added refs). Although the nom seems to have withdrawn, the redirect opinions still stand. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 20:22, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

According to the time stamp I added the last new ref at 17:20 on the 10th of October. After that time only ONE redirect vote occured. With me and the nominator voting to keep the article now, that's 2 keep and 1 Redirect.

Hm. my timestamps are coming out weird, then. When did the nominator agree to keep? He only withdrew the nom; that could mean neutral. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:07, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

The original nominator and I have been trying to restore the article, but others have been saying it was found to be merged by you so it has to stand. With the original nominator for deletion working to keep the article, and admitting he was mistaken in nominating the article of a noteworthy character, can we restore it now? If someone wants to make a legitimate nomination for deletion, that's fine.

Mathewignash (talk

) 09:43, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Legitimate or not, everyone else at the discussion asked for a merge/redirect. I can't simply discard their opinions right now, as redirecting doesn't mean keeping the content, so withdrawing the nomination doesn't change anything. Is there any reason a merge of the material is unacceptable for you two? Everyone else seemed to think that was a good idea. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 23:33, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Since the article was changed to a merge I hgave added more citations from third party sources. Can the article be considered under those please? Thanks.

Mathewignash (talk

) 00:33, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Whoever supported a redirect at the AfD after those sources were added obviously didn't think they were sufficient... I mean, there was pretty clear consensus at the AfD to redirect the article. Why, I am asking again, is redirecting/merging not good enough for you? /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Because the entire nomination was a mistake. The nominator meant to get rid of the MINOR characters from the Gobot series and redirect them to the main Gobots page - he nominated a bunch of minor characters who I supported the redirects for, this was the only one I opposed. He mistakenly added the AFD to Turbo's page, but Turbo was one of the main characters of the series, in every episode - he's had numerous mentions in outside media. I know the page initially lacked third party sources, but I have since added several of them, I believe enough to prove that the character is notable. Most people voted to redirect, I believe, based on it being grouped with a bunch of non-notable characters from the same show, and the false assertion in it's nomination of being a non-notable character.

Mathewignash (talk

) 07:49, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, OK. I'm not really stopping you right now, so go ahead and if someone re-nominates it for AfD, do tell me and I'll try to help sort it out. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:14, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you.

Mathewignash (talk

) 00:01, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually, a lot of people think that by providing more information (often unintentionally promotional in tone), they are helping. Here, much of the article contained copyvios. Also, the last clean version still reads fairly promotional. I thought it may have been easier to blow it up and start over, and if you look above, Crusio (talk · contribs) has already expressed interest in recreating it. If you wish to aid him, please go right ahead; I was going to create it myself if no one did after a while. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 03:26, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't subscribe to the essay written by user:A Man In Black (RIP); it isn't a nice reason to delete the article created by David.Monniaux (talk · contribs). As for the copyvio's they were introduced by 138.102.135.242 (talk · contribs), which is an IP owned by INRA. We could either restore the version prior to the 'copyvio', or email INRA to confirm the free license for those edits. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 03:49, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Free license or not, the copyvio stuff was still promotional and unencyclopedic in tone. I personally believe that a redlink to the INRA page means someone will be willing to recreate a quality article, not wait around for the license to be confirmed for material that will need to be reworded later to be NPOV, anyway. If there's no article at all, someone will be motivated to make a new stub in 10 minutes and we'd be back to where we were before. Or, we could deal with fixing a bunch of POV stuff taken from a primary source (but no one will bother to do anything except tag it). /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 12:56, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

We don't need to wait, or write a new stub; the content of the revisions tainted with the copyvio (2008-05-27T13:12:57-present) can be revdel'd. Then the visible history remains as it should; attributing the people who put their time into building this topical area five years ago. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 22:02, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

And we'd still end up with a new, clean current-revision-copy, right? (The last clean copy is still not NPOV.) If I'm understanding you correctly, I'll go ahead and do that. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Yea, after restoring the article, everything based on 'top' of the contribs by 138.102.135.242 would need to be removed, and then revdel applied to all edits from the copyvio to the second last edit. Or you can simply roll back to 2008-05-27T13:12:57 and we'll add back a few of the edits since then like interwikis. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 00:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Done, I think. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I've restored the rest and applied

WP:RevDel to the copyvio revisions. John Vandenberg ^(chat

) 01:39, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, fetchcomms, I'm looking for a mentor. I'm part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Public Policy comprised of graduate students across the United States who will be adding to the public policy knowledge available on Wikipedia. I'm at Indiana University and my class is focusing on local economic development.

Thanks!

Speon (talk) 12:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Speon! I'd be happy to be your mentor, so consider yourself "mentorized" :) One note: when you make a new post on a talk page (such as this page), use the "Add topic" button at the top (next to edit) to make a new section, so it is separate from earlier threads like the one above. Cheers, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 12:52, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Yes, I'm mentoring Kcahlber. For Syracuse coordination, one thing you could do is try to make sure all the possible DYKs happen, and remind mentors to help the mentees get there.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 12:32, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Great, thanks! /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 12:52, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive! The Wikipedia Guild of Copy-Editors invites you to participate in the November 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive will begin on 1 November at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on 30 November at 23:59 (UTC). The goal for this drive is to reduce the backlog by 10% (approximately 500 articles). We hope to focus our efforts on the oldest three months (January, February, and March 2009) and the newest three months (September, October, and November 2010) of articles in the queue. Sign-up has already begun at the November drive page, and will be open throughout the drive. If you have any questions or concerns, please leave a message on the drive's talk page. Before you begin copy-editing, please carefully read the instructions on the main drive page. Please make sure that you know how to copy-edit, and be familiar with the Wikipedia Manual of Style. Awards and barnstars A range of barnstars will be awarded to active participants, some of which are exclusive to GOCE drives. More information on awards can be found on the main drive page. Thank you; we look forward to meeting you on the drive! — The UtahraptorTalk to me/Contributions, S Masters (talk), and Diannaa (Talk)

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04:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hi Fetchcomms! First, I do not know if I am replying to your message correctly... I hope that I am, though! No, I do not yet have a mentor. With how busy things have been around campus, I must admit that I have not gotten to that step. So yes, please, sign me up as an apprentice! I believe our final draft is to be submitted on October 28, so I clearly have some more substantive work to do as well as some (re)formating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nerdpenguin (talk • contribs) 16:41, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Yep, you replied fine! I'm not sure what your class is doing regarding article reviews, but I can leave some comments on your pre-final-draft article if you would like (reply here). /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 19:35, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Opps! I did not sign in.... Nerdpenguin (talk) 16:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC) I am nerdpenguin and I was replying to your message on my "my talk" page re the wiki public policy initiative on the NDP in Egypt.

No problem :) /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 19:36, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

ANI

Hi,
On ANI you comment "Too many controversial edits this frequently?" I would be interested to know which edits you find controversial, and how frequent you think they are. Rich Farmbrough, 23:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC).

I was referring to this being the second or third time you have been the subject of an ANI discussion within the past few weeks. If people have to continually discuss the changes you make at ANI, I would think something is wrong. Also, weren't you recently blocked for something of this nature? You were unblocked after having agreed to discuss your edits; now you are back at ANI again. I would have thought that you would discuss your changes to avoid another ANI thread, too. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Mt --> Mount Gabi

Thanks for getting that. I was actually making the same edit and was surprised that the page existed when I hit click. You work fast. Now, of course, it's going to be a bit harder to finish the closing, but I can do the last two steps the long way. I would have had to anyways, I suppose. Thanks again,

Talk

02:55, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

You can try this script to help. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 02:59, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

What exactly does it do?

Talk

03:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)It makes it quite a bit easier to decline, accept, place a hold on, comment on, or mark a submission as being reviewed. It speeds up the closure of redirect requests, as well. When looking at a request page, a tab will appear at the top saying "review". Try it out; it's pretty simple. ~~ Hi878 ^{(Come shout at me!)} 04:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Can someone help me actually make it work. (i.e. tell me how to do it?)

Talk

05:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, so in

bypass your cache, and you should see either a new tab or a new drop-down menu choice saying "Review". Click on that when looking at an AfC page, and then you'll see a box come up at the top with choices of how to review the article, plus a comment box. /ƒETCHCOMMS/

02:21, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

How's your Online Ambassador experience going so far?

Hi Fetchcomms/Archive 12,

We're starting to get into the busy part of the semester for Online Ambassadors, and we want to check in and see how you're doing, what your opinions about where we are now, and any feedback you may have.

Please answer these questions either on

my talk page or send them to me by email

.

1. How many mentees are you currently working with?

2. Have you reached out to students who don't have mentors yet? If not, would you be willing to?

3. What do you think of the content of messages on the Google Group?

4. What do you think of the volume of messages on the Google Group?

5. Do you participate on the Google Group much? If not, what would make you participate more?

6. Are there any problems you've experienced so far?

7. Is there anything else Sage or the rest of the Public Policy Initiative team could do to make your experience as an Online Ambassador better?

8. Are you okay sharing your username with your answers to our Public Policy Initiative team, or would you prefer to remain anonymous?

Thanks for your feedback! --

talk

) 19:24, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Reference problem with edit war

Hi Fetchcomms, I recently added information to the Steve Ferrone and Warren Cuccurullo pages sourced from Modern Drummer magazine. The information about their having formed a group was sourced from a late September Modern Drummer Web News update. When I sourced the information, I added the retrieval date in my annotation of the reference. It is apparent that Modern Drummer revises information on their Web News update page without revising the URL. The information about their group has been just recently replaced. I am trying to source another good reference to cover the group. I am also currently involved in an edit war on both pages with an unregisterd reader/editor who is deleting the information. I have asked that the unregistered reader/editor discuss the issue on the talk pages before making any further edits. I would like to know if my reference with the retrieval date is still proper, although that information may no longer be available. (I have a copy of the full posting at that time, and I have removed the URL from the reference on both pages.) Also, if the reader/editor does not discuss the issue and continues to edit war, can his activity be curtailed so that I may search without distraction for another source this weekend? Doc2234 (talk) 03:04, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

The reference should be valid still. You might consider looking at the Web Archive for a copy of the page, too. What you need to do is just talk to the other user on his/her talk page, and show them your saved copy if needed. If they still refuse to believe you, post at the article talk page asking for outside opinions. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 18:24, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I tried the Way Back archive, however, it appears that the September Modern Drummer page is too recent for them. I will try to email Modern Drummer and see what they may be able to do. I would like to keep the quote from the Modern Drummer article in my page edits. The reader/editor's edits to both pages have come from two separate raw IP addresses. He has not responded yet today. I have also found other references that I can use to substantiate the existence of the collaboration, and I will be entering the best of those as a back-up sometime this weekend. Thanks for the help. Doc2234 (talk) 19:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

• • The reader/editor has continued to undo my edit without discussing as I requested. I posted a recap of the activity on the Warren Cuccurullo talk page. Please advise if any action should be taken such as protecting the two pages for a short time period. Doc2234 (talk) 02:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

• • • The reader/editor has posted on both talk pages and I have responded on both talk pages. Hopefully, I can find time to add more material tomorrow. thank you for your help, once again. Doc2234 (talk) 02:57, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Move

moved Margareth Tomanek W55 Record to Template:Margareth Tomanek W55 Record [without redirect] (AN request)

Thank youTrackinfo (talk) 19:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 19:10, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Modilo

Alright so there are references, but are they actually legit references? One of them is just it's location on google maps, another is a truck show page, and another is an internet radio. Not sure about the other one, but most of the references are bs, I think the deletion request should be reinstated, what do you think?NexCarnifex (talk) 00:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

What you need to do is go to Articles for deletion and nominate it. I just removed the proposed deletion notice after skimming through some other sources online; it still has a pretty fair chance of getting deleted via the Articles for deletion process. I'm neutral if you nominate it. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:11, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Are you going to go edit the article to make it verifiable then? Since from what I know and what other people will, it's not notable and to top it looks like garbage. I don't know how to use the Afd process.NexCarnifex (talk) 00:34, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I nominated the article for deletion in your behalf. See here. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank youNexCarnifex (talk) 00:50, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

"File:Rajni-with-Kalignar.JPG

Hi, recently I found this image was deleted. Plz I do not understand what the point behind this !! My friend this image has high significance to the article -- "Rajinikanth" in para "Politics". We/myself as a true wikipedian after researching many times whether an image will be suitable to an article based on merit only, we upload it. I beleive Our efforts must be given some consideration. Constantly reviewing it as an violation of non-free media is not fair and by itself it violates. Please see that, this image was a published one in news-article in 1996. It deserves the mention there. Reviewers please do take care more on these kind of images which has high significance and done neutral way to make the article more informative & complete.

Point is wiki - over a period of time has to grow, and article construction also need to grow. So it should be allowed if done a good work satisfying it rules. I did a good work there. Please reload it.

--Ungal Vettu Pillai (talk) 03:32, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I cannot understand well what you are saying, but the image violates our

non-free content policy

, and had to be deleted. Wikipedia has to grow – with free content. I don't think you understand the non-free content policy; you did not address the issue:

There is no critical commentary of the image itself in the article. If anything a fair use image of "Rajinikanth riding a bicycle from the film Annamalai" would make much more sense as it is discussed in the article.

As such fails NFCC 8 as the image does nothing to aid in understanding the text it is supposedly representing and NFCC 1 as the subjects are still living.

The image was deleted per the proper process. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 03:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

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^{It's football season!}

04:48, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Another one. :)

^{It's football season!}

05:05, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Talkback at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/2010 ArbCom election voting procedure

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GedUK  09:28, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2010/Coordination

Hi there. I am interested in volunteering at the Arbitration elections, mostly out of a desire to help Wikipedia, but also out of an intellectual curiosity spurred on my my academic training in political science. I have three questions.

1. Am I elegible to join (I'm not an admin, but I am an editor in good standing)
2. Is it too late to join (The elections are only what, a month away)
3. If I can join, what still needs to be done.

Please use a talkback to inform me if you respond.

Thanks,

Talk

22:39, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

1. IDK, but the page says "If you want to help just add your name below", so I'm going with yes.
2. IDK also, but it won't hurt to sign up.
3. IDK again; based on the checklist on that page, "Call for candidates" is the only thing left that's not done. But I don't know when that's scheduled to be announced.

Basically, I have no clue and I don't know what I'm supposed to do, either. Maybe ask Skomorokh for the full details. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 23:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Yo chaps, going to answer you all here. What we need to do as coordinators is make the show run smoothly. That principally involves:

Monitoring the ongoing RfC and implementing its consensus with as little friction as possible.

Setting up and monitoring the required candidate pages.

Quickly and accurately responding to any questions and problems raised at the

election talkpage

[this is the main job].

Identifying and stopping disruption [mostly in the form of inappropriate commentary and questions from voters, edit warring and so on].

Take a look at the archives of last year at

WT:ACE2009 to get an idea of what's in store. Thanks for signing up! Skomorokh

23:37, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing this up. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 23:40, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Discussion Moved

Not that I don't like Fetchcomms, but coordinating outselves on his talk page might not be the best idea. I looted the relivent material from his page and set up a workspace for us at

Talk

01:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't call Skomorokh's response actual coordination, but I don't really care where the discussion is copied. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:32, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Quotation from reference no longer available on internet

Hi Fetchcomms, This relates to my "Reference problem with edit war" post a few sections above. History - In an edit, I used a quote from a reference that showed the quote, and I linked to the site and identified a retrieval date in my reference annotation. The quote was taken from a news posting. The administrator of that referenced news posting page subsequently deleted the information including the quote, and provided new information on the page (exact same URL). The administrator does not maintain any archive of the old information (per my discussion with their site administrator.) I searched an archive internet page site and found no alternate source to use for a link. I subsequently have removed the link to the site in my reference, but have kept the quote in the text, along with the reference showing the source and retrieval date. Question - Can I maintain the quote as I originally wrote the edit with my reference as it is currently displayed, or should I delete the quote and the reference? The reference is reference 2. on the Steve Ferrone page. (I have a personal copy of the page as it was when it was a valid reference.) Doc2234 (talk) 23:22, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

It should be fine. That's the point of an access date—in case the content of that webpage changes later. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 00:06, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Doc2234 (talk) 01:57, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Translation Help

Hey Fetchcomms, the- from IRC referred me to your http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fetchcomms/fr page saying you were looking for help in translating the article. I myself am interested in updating an English language article using info from the equivalent French language article, and was looking for guidance on how to go about it (hence the visit to IRC). I have read the Wikipedia:Translation page, but as a relative newbie (whose only edits so far have been minor spelling/grammar changes), I was hesitant to tackle such a project on my own.
I would be glad to help out with the translation of the Meat Preservation article (although I must admit, that some of the french terms have got me stumped as to a translation), and would very much appreciate your guidance in how to go about translating another article.
Let me know how I can help. Joe Cotugno (talk) 03:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi! I don't know what article you want to translate, but the process is relatively simple:

1. If the corresponding English article does not exist here, create a short stub ("Something is a [whatever] thing.") If the English article already exists, but the French article contains more information, go to step 2.
2. Gradually translate the French content into English, and just add it to the English article. As long as the translation is understandable, there should be no issues on this step.

   • Make sure you translate the references, as well. You can also add additional references not from the French article, as well as any additional information, during the translation.

3. Add {{translated page}} to the talk ?page of the English article. This is required for copyright reasons, and the instructions on how to use it are at Template:Translated page.

As for the meat preservation article I am working on, I think I am doing fine right now (and I have some things I will need to fundamentally change later on), so I'm OK there. Thanks for the offer, and I hope my tips here help! /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 18:13, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips, Fetchcomms! I am going to give it a try with the

Brother Andre page. The french version has tons more info than the english one. Joe Cotugno (talk

) 07:11, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

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Okay thanks for the link :) I haven't looked at it yet, but I'll try to think of some kind of solution if possible. Thanks again! See you around! :) --

hockey10^e-mail

22:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Mmm, good argument. I see what you mean and has changed my views. Thanks again :) --

hockey10^e-mail

22:55, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

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Klhrdy (talk) 14:26, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

mentor

Hi fetchcomms, how are you today? I was hoping that you would be my mentor in the final weeks of our wikipedia public policy initiative. A final draft should be available in my sandbox tomorrow morning, and I've already gotten a substantial start. My sandbox is the place to be! Thank you! Nerdpenguin (talk) 21:12, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I am glad to be your mentor, and I will look over your draft soon. Cheers, /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 22:21, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Happy Fetchcomms's Day!

User:Fetchcomms has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, and therefore, I've officially declared today as Fetchcomms's day! For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian, enjoy being the Star of the day, dear Fetchcomms! Peace, Rlevse 00:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC) A record of your Day will always be kept here .

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Thank youuu! /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 01:51, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I would have to agree with that. ;)--TalkToMe_c^intelati 02:53, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Thermization

DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

— Rlevse • Talk

• 18:04, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Special Invite

You have been invited to comment in a special Request for Constructive Criticism page. I am looking for areas in which I can improve. I have identified you as both an experienced and trusted Wikipedian, and as someone that has had sufficient contact with me to able to recognize areas in which I can improve. Please feel free to visit and post any comments or criticism you have. At a certain point, I cannot improve if no one tells me what I need to work on. Thanks in advance, Talk 00:27, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

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Hi fetchcomms, The 12th amendment stuff was just so I could practice putting things in wikipedia format. I'm putting the workforce development article on wikipedia now and two of my classmates are planning on filling the holes. I know the article is probably considered a stub as-is but we should be working on it more this week. Thanks, Speon (talk) 05:26, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Re. DYK for Jameela Jamil

Please, try to help sort that out.

I really really am 'away' now; but it's a shame if that does not make DYK.  Chzz  ►  18:27, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Hey Fetchcomms! I just wanted to say thank you for cleaning up the references section and the article article in general. It looks a whole lot better! Amfarr21 (talk) 19:10, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem :) It looks really great, it really does. If you have time, I hope you nominate it for

good article status. Some minor suggestions for the future: on section headings in articles, only capitalize the first word (i.e., "Goal of policy" rather than "Goal of Policy") but still capitalize proper nouns in headings ("Transfer of authority from Coalition Provisional Authority to Iraqi Interim Government" is fine). I fixed some of these in the article but didn't get to all of them, so you might want to go back for that whenever you have some time (it's not a big deal). Also, when you have (even more) time, you can go back to the "References" section (the one with the bullet-point list, not the one with {{reflist}}) and embed the links under the titles, like you have under the "Notes" section (so it looks like Title rather than http://example.com). You can, use {{cite web}}, {{cite book}} etc. for that list, too, if you want to convert that whole list, which will take a while. Again, it's not a big deal, but just something you might want to do later if you think it looks better. Cheers, /ƒETCHCOMMS/

21:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

The 2010 WikiCup is over! It has been a long journey, but what has been achieved is impressive: combined, participants have produced over seventy featured articles, over five hundred good articles, over fifty featured lists, over one thousand one hundred "did you know" entries, in addition to various other pieces of recognised content. A full list (which has yet to be updated to reflect the scores in the final round) can be found here. Perhaps more importantly, we have our winner! The 2010 WikiCup champion is Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), with an unbelievable 4220 points in the final round. Second place goes to TonyTheTiger (submissions), with 2260, and third to Casliber (submissions), with 560. Congratulations to our other four finalists – White Shadows (submissions), William S. Saturn (submissions), Staxringold (submissions) and ThinkBlue (submissions). Also, congratulations to Sasata (submissions), who withdrew from the competition with an impressive 2685 points earlier in this round.

Prizes will also be going to those who claimed the most points for different types of content in a single round. It was decided that the prizes would be awarded for those with the highest in a round, rather than overall, so that the finalists did not have an unfair advantage. Winning the featured article prize is Casliber (submissions), for five featured articles in round 4. Winning the good article prize is Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), for eighty-one good articles in round 5. Winning the featured list prize is Staxringold (submissions), for six featured lists in round 1. Winning the picture and sound award is Jujutacular (submissions), for four featured pictures in round 3. Winning the topic award is Sturmvogel_66 (submissions), for forty-seven articles in various good topics in round 5. Winning the "did you know" award is TonyTheTiger (submissions), for over one hundred did you knows is round 5. Finally, winning the in the news award is Candlewicke (submissions), for nineteen articles in the news in round three.

The WikiCup has faced criticism in the last month – hopefully, we will take something positive from it and create a better contest for next year. Like Wikipedia itself, the Cup is a work in progress, and ideas for how it should work are more than welcome on the

03:04, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

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On 2 November 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Siege of Kandahar, which you recently nominated. If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Hi, thanks for your comment at the AR talk page, Signpost. I'm in between clients on a hectic day. I wonder whether it would be worth providing links to the three related threads at at each of those ?four locations. The plagiarism issue is fundamental, and the DYK thing needs to be cleaned up apart from this incident, IMO. Tony (talk) 03:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I was too lazy to go back and find them when I left the comment, but I left links now. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 12:57, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Well done, Fc. Tony (talk) 15:23, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

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