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Mayor of Alfei Menashe
Hi Flix11,
I noticed that you recently reverted this edit. The anonymous editor is correct, there is a new mayor (head of council). This makes complete sense, given the
—Ynhockey (Talk) 10:26, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
January 2019
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Linking countries
Hi there. Quick heads-up: I believe links to countries like here is considered
Estonia national football team results
I checked the video, the one who scored Qatars second goal was player no. 3 Abdelkarim Hassan. Soccerway has messed things up! Klõps (talk) 20:26, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Please update after penalties
Due to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 117#Live updates with penalty shoot-outs, please update all stats after penalties, not just AET. Enjoy editing. Hhkohh (talk) 13:51, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thanks for helping fix up the current edit war going on. 7_qz (ゆっくりしていってね!) 14:28, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
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“Far-right supporter”
Comment not appreciated. What I'm doing is countering a personal bias for Jokowi and trying to deliver WP:N. Please refrain from doing these things in the future. Juxlos (talk) 12:41, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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Manchester United
In the future, please be more careful with your edits. You added two games each to Pogba and Young's totals, failed to update the starts number for Phil Jones, and altered the initial access dates of the citations, violating
- I am no longer asking. Any further edits to the timeline of Wikipedia's original access to citations or incorrect statistics will be construed as vandalism; the PSG match has already been included. You are the one adding two matches to players' statistics. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 01:18, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- @MAINEiac4434: If it is, then why Rashford and Martial each had 1 sub cap less, while they started the PSG match? Why did Young had 1 starting cap less in your edit (172) than even in the PSG-less source (173)? Before you ask, see on "Opponents Details". There is no "Paris Saint-Germain" there. Please check first before arguing. – Flix11 (talk) 01:22, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- @original research. Though you and I both know that Mata and Pogba and De Gea all played in the PSG match, the statistics websites have not yet been updated to include that, leading to a discrepancy between the page and the cited source. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 01:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- @
- @MAINEiac4434: If it is, then why Rashford and Martial each had 1 sub cap less, while they started the PSG match? Why did Young had 1 starting cap less in your edit (172) than even in the PSG-less source (173)? Before you ask, see on "Opponents Details". There is no "Paris Saint-Germain" there. Please check first before arguing. – Flix11 (talk) 01:22, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
What are you doing?
If an admin doesn't leave a tag when blocking someone, there's a near certain chance that it wasn't an accident. And messages like these are not helpful. Natureium (talk) 03:15, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Alright. Just want to inform the user. Won't do it again. – Flix11 (talk) 03:16, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- If you want to leave warnings for vandalism, there are standard twinkle messages that are less angry sounding. Natureium (talk) 03:20, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Again, start with a level 1 warning. Robby.is.on (talk) 21:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Really?
You just blindly accused me of "vandalizing" a page about the UK political parties, that I just only moving the
- Say it to the one reported you ) 03:52, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Alright since a bot reported you then what? I will erase my comment. – Flix11 (talk) 03:53, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, that's fine then. And you can also fix my IP address filing here. 2600:1700:8D0:12F0:49BD:1327:C176:8984 (talk) 03:57, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Alright since a bot reported you then what? I will erase my comment. – Flix11 (talk) 03:53, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
March 2019
) 21:41, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- You have been warned about this before, and you continue to do it. Not only are you giving inappropriate level 4 warnings to IPs with no previous history, but you are using a customized warning to make it sound even more dire. I see multiple instances of this today alone. Stop doing this. No IP should get a level 4 warning for minor vandalism, particularly when it is their first edit, or their first edit in months, or for an edit that happened months ago. It's even worse when you do it for an edit that is not even vandalism. If I see any more of these inappropriate warnings you will be the one getting the level 4 warning. Meters (talk) 21:55, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi. He have left his office of Senate president and in official website, he is called President, not acting president or senate president acting as president. He will end the previous presidential term like US VP. --Panam2014 (talk) 14:40, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Panam2014: Please give reliable source(s) to support this. – Flix11 (talk) 14:42, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Shamsunnahar Jr.
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Re: 2015-16 third kit
In fact, if you look at this page (under both the Change and Third tabs), you'll see that the black shirt was worn seven times during the season; three times with white socks and four times with black socks. But considering that website only records the frequency with which each combination was worn, neither of us should really be citing it when another more official source is available. –
Scott McTominay
Thank you, next time I will wait! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sireuan18 (talk • contribs) 21:52, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
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April 2019
I noticed that a message you recently left to Mulaneys may have been unduly harsh. Please remember not to bite the newcomers. If you see others making a common mistake, consider politely pointing out what they did wrong and showing them how to correct it. It takes more time, but it helps us retain new editors. Thank you. TheWinRatHere! 16:40, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- If this happens again, I'll take it upon myself to report you at AN/I, Flix11. Cut it out. Robby.is.on (talk) 22:00, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- As the user is now blocked for apparent vandalism, did I get exonerated? – Flix11 (talk) 05:52, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- No. It's a matter of principle: Don't bite the newcomers. Robby.is.on (talk) 06:15, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- As the user is now blocked for apparent vandalism, did I get exonerated? – Flix11 (talk) 05:52, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
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all-time NBA scoring list - Response
I honestly have no clue what you're talking about. Someone else edited the page to get rid of things and replace them with names like Justin Bieber or some troll name, and I changed it back. I just edited the page so it would change back. I always make sure to wait until after a game (like it says to) before editing the page. I hope that we can sort out this confusion.--Egfdagger (talk) 20:30, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
2019 Sri Lanka bombings
Bung, bisa nggak Anda cari & kasih koordinat
Message on 2018–19 Premier League
I don't understand what I did wrong on this message. I only changed this so it was the right information for the article. I think it is harsh to leave a message like that!
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2019 Johan Cruyff Shield moved to draftspace
I have moved this article to draftspace as it is unsourced
I'm not sure why you changed the dates as they are all used in the same style for the article per
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RE: May 2019
You, before adding new kits, have to see official website. The new home kit of Juventus was relieved only yesterday. So, the kit must be fixed now, specially on t-shirt. The scudetto patch is on left, over adidas logo, not in the center of the t-shirt.--87.10.100.152 (talk) 16:02, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- See it first before commenting. The socks you add are wrong, they do not have the pink lines in the middle. – Flix11 (talk) 16:52, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- Now is correct. Before the scudetto patch was in the middle, but you fixed it. P.S. I'm not a vandal.--87.10.100.152 (talk) 19:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
AFC Cup Match Referees
At the start of the season, during December, before the Asian Cup, all the stats.the-afc.com reports for the AFC competition (AFC Cup & AFC Champions League) had the match referees mentioned in the report, though just before the commencement of the tournament, AFC hid the names, and now reveal all the names after the match has been finished. That is why till now every match referee mentioned on the pages has been on point. We entered the names during December itself.--Anbans 585 (talk) 12:24, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
- But in the end there were changes, for example on April 25 vs Tai Po today, the ref listed was Shaqab of Singapore, while in the Live Report now is written Timur Faizulin. So I assume if the names are not listed in either reports, nothing should be filled in. – Flix11 (talk) 13:00, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Asking....
Are you Indonesian?--
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May 2019
ACCESS trumps FOOTY
Since
Are you finish?
Are you finish talking in my talk page saying that I'm a vandal without reason? Are you ok or what are you doing? Please finish and discuss with Walter Golitz before undo my edits. You have to be quite with people here on Wikipedia. --82.57.44.190 (talk) 00:43, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
AN/I notice
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Robby.is.on (talk) 08:41, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi - as you may have seen at ANI, I've offered to take you through the CVUA course if you would like to learn more about countering vandalism and using warning templates. If you would like to do this, please indicate on the ANI thread that you would like to take up the offer, and that you agree not to place any more warnings on any user's talk page until we've been through the basics and I've suggested that you start using them. If you do that, I'll set up a training page and ping you from there; if you aren't interested, I'll leave you in peace. Cheers GirthSummit (blether)15:26, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi - just a note to make sure you're aware that I've created your page WP:TWINKLE, and ping me from there to confirm that you've got Twinkle enabled and that you're ready to proceed. Cheers GirthSummit (blether)17:07, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Flix11 - just a note to make sure you've seen the CVUA training page, and still want to proceed with the course? Let me know if you have any questions about getting started. Cheer GirthSummit (blether) 07:35, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Girth Summit: I have done the reading. What is next? – Felixbs 07:41, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi - just a note to make sure you're aware that I've created your page
Adding References
How can I do that? Ozehlawrence (talk) 17:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
- Follow the steps here: Wikipedia:Citing sources and use Template:Cite web – Flix11 (talk) 17:42, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi adventure, to find out more about editing. Cheers GirthSummit (blether)19:23, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
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Sorry
Sorry about that change....I just want to search a newer picture for Try Sutrisno.
CVUA
Hi - just checking whether you saw my last message on the CVUA page - do you want to proceed with the course? Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 13:05, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Girth Summit: Yes please. I just do not have many time since I am now focusing on my thesis. – Flix11 (talk) 15:17, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- OK cool, I'll put the next section on there shortly. No problem if we go slowly because of your thesis, we can proceed at whatever pace works for you, I just wanted to make sure you were still interested. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 15:26, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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2019 Copa América
So yeah only ESPN because is "american" or "in english" is a reliable source, but both brazilian ones, just because they are brazilian (where the copa america, actually were!) are not reliable??? terra.com.br in this case in association with the sports newspaper LANCE, and globoesporte from the huge Globo group are not reliable? just because your poor espn doesn't have the information it doesn't mean other local sources are less reliable than the american ones... so is just better to leave it blank? I can find more sources, but yeah... those are just brazilian, not in english, i.e. not reliable, right? And by the way, the numbers "in brazilian" are the same than in english.Hungryspirit (talk) 03:24, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Hungryspirit: It is also unavailable in CONMEBOL site, see here for comparison in Argentina vs Chile. The latter has "Espectadores", while the final still does not have. – Flix11 (talk) 03:42, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
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September 2019
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Departed players
I am open to new ideas, but just because an idea is new doesn't mean it has to be accepted. It should be pretty obvious from the fact that those players will not accrue any further appearances this season and that they are listed among the "Out" transfers below that they have left the club. It doesn't require any special mention, and just because another page on Wikipedia does it doesn't mean we have to too. –
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Live update rule does not apply for goals. Really?
Hi, I have not been in WikiProject Football recently, but have we reached that consensus? Thanks :) Centaur271188 (talk) 18:45, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
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- Thanks for your quick reply, though I am not convinced very much :| Well, we had a long day already and it is quite late now, so I will discuss this thing later. Good night :) Centaur271188 (talk) 19:32, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- As far as I know, it's no live updates at all for WP:FOOTY. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 22:20, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Are you able to get rid of the Nike logo on the kits? Govvy (talk) 10:42, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Goalscorers inplay
Hello, can you please stop putting goalscorers in the edits and using the keys to hide them. Wait until matches are officially completed and then make the full edit. Thanks --Skyblueshaun (talk) 16:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- I understand where you are coming from but at this present time it hasn't been approved on a discussion, so I wouldn't do it as you are just making edit after edit. I suggest you start a discussion before carrying on just to get clarification. --Skyblueshaun (talk) 16:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Nigeria U20 women football team
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Scotland flag
Hi, I noticed you changed the Scotland flags in
- @Crowsus: It was the flag in force then, same like you used an old name that was used in one time; e.g. Red Bull Arena (Leipzig) used the name Zentralstadion and Max-Morlock-Stadion used Frankenstadion during the 2006 World Cup. – Flix11 (talk) 13:54, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- OK, but what's your source for that colour blue being official in 1967? None of the many other articles on Scottish football from that era use that light blue flag as far as I am aware; for consistency they should really be kept the same (or all changed...) Crowsus (talk) 14:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- Read the article, it is said that the color was only standardized in 2003, which means prior to that, including 1967, it was the light blue one. You wanna help change them all? Be my guest. I suggest to ask the editor him/herself here. He/she added it 4 years ago. – Flix11 (talk) 14:06, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- That is absolutely not what the articles says. It says (direct quote with bolding by me):
- "Throughout the history of fabric production natural dyes have been used to apply a form of colour,[9] with dyes from plants, including indigo from woad, having dozens of compounds whose proportions may vary according to soil type and climate; therefore giving rise to variations in shade.[10] In the case of the Saltire, variations in shades of blue have resulted in the background of the flag ranging from sky blue to navy blue. When incorporated as part of the Union Flag during the 17th century, the dark blue applied to Union Flags destined for maritime use was possibly selected on the basis of the durability of darker dyes,[11] with this dark blue shade eventually becoming standard on Union Flags both at sea and on land. Some flag manufacturers selected the same navy blue colour trend of the Union Flag for the Saltire itself, leading to a variety of shades of blue being depicted on the flag of Scotland.[12]
- OK, but what's your source for that colour blue being official in 1967? None of the many other articles on Scottish football from that era use that light blue flag as far as I am aware; for consistency they should really be kept the same (or all changed...) Crowsus (talk) 14:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- These variations in shade eventually led to calls to standardise the colour of Scotland's national flag,[13] and in 2003 a committee of the Scottish Parliament met to examine a petition that the Scottish Executive adopt the Pantone 300 colour as a standard."
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Hi Flix11. Is there a reason you blanked User:Beauty320? In general you should not edit other user's page, and certainly not blank them - unless they contain obviously inappropriate content. I don't see an obvious problem with that user page. Thanks, The Mirror Cracked (talk) 14:17, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
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- Then I suggest you tag it for speedy deletion under criteria G11, rather than blanking it. Your edit summary of fix wasn't helpful in this case: try using edit summaries that explain why you took the action. Thanks, The Mirror Cracked (talk) 15:08, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Then I suggest you tag it for
Central Provident Fund, Singapore
Flix11 is there something you do not understand about the removed material? The contributor is adding inappropriately on a govt agency site. Possibly related to the convicted person, Roy Ngerng. Not only is it inappropriate, it is an exact copy of what appears on Ngerng's page. 2401:7400:6005:2D24:92CE:8FC3:8146:AC8B (talk) 06:13, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
- @2401:7400:6005:2D24:92CE:8FC3:8146:AC8B: Discuss in its talk page. Invite anyone understands. Flix11 (talk) 06:27, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi, please don't use ESPN as a source for Eredivisie statistics, they are too often incorrect
ESPN Claim | Comment |
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Longest Winning Ajax Amsterdam 4 | Incorrect, not only Ajax but PSV and AZ as well |
Longest Current Winning Ajax Amsterdam 3 | Imcorrect, not Ajax but only Vitesse with 3 |
Longest Unbeaten Feyenoord Rotterdam 6 | Incorrect, PSV and Ajax with 9 |
Longest Current Unbeaten Ajax Amsterdam 9 | Not only Ajax but PSV as well (and shows the nonsense of above statement) |
Longest Losing RKC Waalwijk 6 | Correct |
Longest Current Losing RKC Waalwijk 6 | Correct |
Longest Winless Fortuna Sittard 8 | Incorrect, RKC with 9 |
Longest Current Winless RKC Waalwijk 9 | Correct (and shows the nonsense of above statement) |
Aggregated Attendance 1408119 | Incorrct, should be 1408446 |
Average Attendance 17384 | Incorrect, should be 17388 |
--Sb008 (talk) 21:13, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Sb008: ESPN CAN ONLY have one per line. On attendance, which source back your claim? Please prove it with reliable source. Flix11 (talk) 02:23, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- NOS --Sb008 (talk) 03:36, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Sb008: I mean which tab? First is fixtures, second is standings, and third is players' stats. Flix11 (talk) 03:39, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Sb008: Got it. Will count it later. Flix11 (talk) 03:40, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Already been counted (I don't do this manual, but it's generated). Others have same total, see the Dutch page Eredivisie. --Sb008 (talk) 03:47, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- NOS --Sb008 (talk) 03:36, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
"Netherlands women's national under-20 football team" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Hello. Help copy edit, the article is translated from [1]. Thanks you. Xuanfgj (talk) 01:04, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Belgian First Division A
Hi Flix11, I agree with your statement on redundancy in some way, but I also feel that there is something "wrong" about putting just one manager next to each team. What if the manager took over just in the final days of the season, gives a wrong view imho. Moreover, if there really can only be one listed, then doesnt it make more sense to put there the manager at the _beginning_ of the season. Having the table with "managerial changes" follow that one would then show the evolution thereafter in a logical manner.
What about the option of integrating both tables into one?
PS: I do realize this discussion probably needs a broader audience since this structure has been used on a lot of season articles, but first I'm just curious for your thoughts first since you seem to have a strong opinion. Pelotastalk|contribs 14:51, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Indonesian articles english project
Hi wherever possible we try to have english references, although not stated clearly anywhere, Indonesian references are not always that helpful this being english wikipedia JarrahTree 07:26, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- it would be appreciated if you acknowledged the comment, as you are adding more Indonesian language refs... :) JarrahTree 07:35, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- I would appreciate if you can find just ONE English reliable source which tells the legislative polls. Flix11 (talk) 07:53, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- hahah - lucu sekali - about - probably not, ok fair enough you use detik, but the big problem with the project (Indonesia on english wikipedia) is the amazing amount of lack of effort to find english sources by other editor - not you or I. Fair enough, your reply is valid, but we need to encourage other editors to find the english sources ... hehehe JarrahTree 08:28, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- I would appreciate if you can find just ONE English reliable source which tells the legislative polls. Flix11 (talk) 07:53, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- it would be appreciated if you acknowledged the comment, as you are adding more Indonesian language refs... :) JarrahTree 07:35, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
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- @Wikiketik: Years of office shall be accurate ON the election day (17 April 2019), as per List of Donald Trump 2016 presidential campaign endorsements (e.g. Senator Jeff Sessions, Representative Paul Ryan, and Governor Chris Christie) and List of Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign political endorsements (e.g. Governor Alejandro García Padilla, Senator Al Franken, and Representative Beto O'Rourke), who were in office on election day (9 November 2016, thus listed under the "current" section) but had left their respective listed office since. I did not edit any of those names; I just followed what has been the consensus. Flix11 (talk) 04:06, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
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- That is a sound comment from @Stvbastian:, and does not appear to be a case of vandalism on your Talk Page. Very similar response to one that I made, to re-emphasise that Wikipedia is not a live score service. Matilda Maniac (talk) 11:17, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
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Please stop adding final/only warnings to editors whose only edits are apparently good-faith live updates to footballer player stats. An appropriate reaction would to be explain to them why we don't so this. You've been here long enough to know this, and, if I'm not mistaken, came close to sanctions for similarly aggressive and inappropriate actions in the past. Thank you for listening. Struway2 (talk) 16:13, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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- @Struway2: For the record, after your warning I gave level 1 warnings for one-timers and level 2 and 3 for those who had been warned before. Flix11 (talk) 16:22, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- Issuing warnings at any level for apparently good-faith edits without going with an explanation first isn't appropriate. Trawling through page histories with a view to issuing warnings at any level for minor unconstructive edits made days before really isn't appropriate. Thank you for listening. Struway2 (talk) 16:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- Flix11, you seem to have a history of incorrectly placing warnings on people who never did any vandalism. I can be wrong but maybe you can enlighten me why I was placed a Level 4-im warning for this? Will wait for your response. Thanks. Sub |HMU 16:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Subwaymuncher: In Special:Diff/930657616 you reverted a correct vandalism revert; the club goals on infobox only apply if scored in the league, not all competitions. At that time, Greenwood had just scored 1 league goal. The source only used on the stats table. But sorry for the warning. I was quite hesitant to even warn you in the first place but I guess I do not know you enough. Flix11 (talk) 17:02, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- Flix11, you seem to have a history of incorrectly placing warnings on people who never did any vandalism. I can be wrong but maybe you can enlighten me why I was placed a Level 4-im warning for this? Will wait for your response. Thanks. Sub |HMU 16:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- Issuing warnings at any level for apparently good-faith edits without going with an explanation first isn't appropriate. Trawling through page histories with a view to issuing warnings at any level for minor unconstructive edits made days before really isn't appropriate. Thank you for listening. Struway2 (talk) 16:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing.
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Please stop it. An "only warning" for a piece of minor vandalism is ridiculous and you know it. You need to get out of the habit, soon. Struway2 (talk) 12:15, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Struway2: It was deliberate actions. Go see for yourself first. Flix11 (talk) 12:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- Of course it was deliberate: no-one's suggesting their hand slipped. But what they did was changed an attendance figure on a football match. See for yourself. That is either a test edit or minor vandalism, already corrected by someone else. I've removed your completely inappropriate immediate warning and replaced it with a level 1 warning, which is the absolute maximum required for a one-off, particularly on a dynamic IP. Struway2 (talk) 12:36, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Muhammad Rizieq Shihab view such as in Indonesia–Saudi Arabia relations (1, 2). Rizieq's foul-mouth might not known outside Indonesia but he is known here in Indonesia to have called for non-Muslim persecutions. Flix11 (talk) 16:14, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
Edit at Manchester derby
Hi Flix. I wanted to come to you regarding your revert to my change on the infobox of the Manchester derby article. While I can entirely understand your revert - and I hope you'll notice that, at this stage, I have no simply reverted it back, I wanted to ask you to further justify your decision.
While I like the idea of there being some consistency across articles, I find it hard to support the idea that just because something exists in the same format in article X, we should keep it the same in article Y. This is, to my mind, a fairly weak argument based off aesthetic concerns only, and one which fosters stagnation and discourages Wikipedia's main principle:
I have been on Wikipedia for over 15 years now, and while I am far from the most frequent editor, I have long made a habit of challenging what had gone before and saying "this could be done differently". I fervently believe that the argument "it is done differently elsewhere" is not a particularly strong reason to revert an edit, and what's more I believe that
I invite you to consider and defend your revert. I do strongly believe that my change could be a positive enhancement for the article and could potentially even become a new standard in other articles if allowed to stand, but I don't wish for an edit war and therefore would like to hear your own arguments before considering my next course of action. Falastur2 Talk 23:37, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Falastur2: Sorry first, but in my understanding the stadium listed are only those currently in use, hence my reason. If we listed all the stadiums the matches had been played in, shouldn't we list Wembley Stadium as well due to 2011 FA Cup semi-final and the Shield? But I get your point. Thank you for noticing. Flix11 (talk) 01:04, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- If you can get the infobox template changed from Stadiums to Main Stadiums, then that would remove issues of ambiguity and perceived need for a exhaustive list of venues. Elsewhere in a rivalry article, a table of teams' records at each venue (current and historic, including 'neutral') would be informative and relevant. Matilda Maniac (talk) 03:14, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- I understand your viewpoint Flix, but I'm not sure I agree with it. I would be interested in seeing any discussion where this has previously taken place, if it has, as I would like to go over the arguments for and against. The issue here is that this is very much a massive case of recentism. Why are we placing undue emphasis on the current stadia when this is a historic record article? What exactly makes the current stadia more important than the past ones.
- And @Matilda Maniac: - what makes the current stadia "main stadia"? Why are we promoting the current ones above the old ones for the sole virtue of being in use right now? Surely if we were assessing the main stadia the correct thing to go by would be number of derbies contested there, in which case Maine Road would be City's main stadium, not CoMS.
- As for the comment about needing to include neutral grounds, I did consider that. Adding the neutral grounds is a possible too, though I would argue they are less significant as neutral grounds were never a primary "home" location, they were incidental only. Perhaps instead of relabelling the template "main stadia" we can label it "home stadia"? Falastur2 Talk 08:48, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Do you have any further comments? I still feel fairly strongly that we can do better here, and I still believe my edit has merit. I won't restate my edit if you have further concerns which we can discuss, but otherwise I'd like to try putting them back in. Falastur2 Talk 13:28, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- @WP:FOOTY because this might as well applies to many articles e.g. Derby d'Italia (add Delle Alpi, Olimpico Torino), Arsenal F.C.–Manchester United F.C. rivalry and Arsenal F.C.–Chelsea F.C. rivalry (add Highbury, at least). Flix11 (talk) 14:51, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
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- Do you have any further comments? I still feel fairly strongly that we can do better here, and I still believe my edit has merit. I won't restate my edit if you have further concerns which we can discuss, but otherwise I'd like to try putting them back in. Falastur2 Talk 13:28, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- Apologies, Wikipedia gave me no notification that you had responded. Your suggestion is reasonable. I'll take it to WP:FOOTY, though at the same time I would like to put it on record that I still disagree with the idea that all articles are supposed to look entirely alike and that we should consider ourselves bound to follow the style other pages use. Yes, it can be aesthetically pleasing to have some similarities, but going for total parity is foolish to my mind and puts unnecessary restraints on forward thinking. Falastur2 Talk17:51, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Apologies, Wikipedia gave me no notification that you had responded. Your suggestion is reasonable. I'll take it to
- So nine days on and there was no response at all to my suggestion. I can only interpret this as an indication that the matter is simply not considered that big of a deal and no-one has any strong opinions on it.
- So where do we go from here? My belief is still that there is scope for improvements to be made to articles outside of what is simply the standard style. I have raised this in the public forum and there is no further opinion and no consensus. I would still like to make the change but I would rather not do so without reaching some kind of agreement with you first. Falastur2 Talk 23:44, 16 January 2020 (UTC)